Game Order/Timeline?

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I searched for a thread already on this but didn't find anything. ): If there's a thread on this, tell me!

I was looking through the cross-game references on Bulbapedia, trying to figure out what time period all the games occur (i'm writing a fanfiction with a character from Kanto during Red's time, so when she goes to Hoenn i need reference for what is going on).

I've always thought of all of the games occurring in sequence... like, RBY to GSC then RSE and finally DPPt. But now that HGSS is coming out, during the same time period as DPPt, that messes it up. And we already know RBY takes place 3 years before GSC.

So where does that leave RSE? Is it during DPPt or RBY time?

My only reference (in which i believe it takes place during RBY) is one of Oak's assistants saying Oak will get a radio show in the future. So... does that mean RSE is inbetween RBY and GSC? He gets a radio show in GSC, so thats a reference he doesn't have it YET...

I dunno, any evidence either way? I need some to finish my fanfiction correctly :0

EDIT: Part of my theory now is that the timeline was created with FRLG being canon now, not RBY. As now HGSS will be. So the games grouped together in a generation happen at the same time. So FRLG happen during RSE and HGSS happen during DPPt. Makes sense to me. :eek:
 
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I believe RSE actually happens after GSC.

The reason for this is Pokemon Eggs exist in RSE, and in GSC Pokemon Eggs were a new discovery.
 
I think it goes RBY, then like 3 years later GSC, then RSC, then DPPt. Not sure of how much time occurs between, but I see FrLg and HgSs as remakes and not part of the overall timeline.
 
Of course, it's not like we've ever been able to accurately figure out the timeline. Mostly it's opinions.

I say FRLG occurs alongside RSE
And HGSS happens at the same time as DPPt
 
^ Truth.

The only confirmed "timeline" is GSC/HGSS taking place 3 years after RBY/FRLG. Then we have all the hints at there being a concurrent timeline between FRLG/RSE and DPP/HGSS. I put Colosseum, XD and the Ranger games in this "timeline" as well, since they're more tied-in with the main games than all other Spin-Offs.

In the end, it's a matter of opinion.
 
it's pretty weird. RSE make things difficult, especially with Colosseum and XD included, so that doesn't matter. because Kanto and Hoenn happen at the same time (because trading) and GSC happens three years after Kanto. DP can trade with HG SS so that's the same time line too. That does make the Pal park weird, unless they keep the pokémon there for three years, which seems unlikely. Not to start about colosseum/ XD (there are 5 years between them). My point?

There is no peticulair game order.
 
Hmmm.... I'd say it goes RBY, GSC, FRLG, RSE, DPPt, HGSS. Eggs were new in GSC, so they still exist in RSE and FRLG. But FRLG goes before RSE, as the contests are new in RSE, but they aren't in FRLG. But then contests are in DPPt but they don't exist in HGSS, so that comes afterward.
 
The way I see it is that the third games are the "official" ones to start off. (Not counting Yellow, that was a special edition). So the original timeline would have Crystal following Blue.

Then we get to the remakes. The remakes tend to take the place of and retcon the games they remake, so FireRed/LeafGreen replace Blue in the timeline. HeartGold/SoulSilver will do the same for Crystal.

As it stands, FR/LG run along the same time as Emerald and HG/SS and Platinum run together following the first two.
 
The only comfirmed timeline is that the events of the Johto games(GS,C,HGSS) took place three years after the events of the Kanto games(RG/RB,B,Y,FRLG), and that the events of the Sinnoh games(DP,Pt) took place at the same time as the events of the Johto games (because of Red Gyarados TV report).
 
Don't Hug Lucario! said:
Hmmm.... I'd say it goes RBY, GSC, FRLG, RSE, DPPt, HGSS. Eggs were new in GSC, so they still exist in RSE and FRLG. But FRLG goes before RSE, as the contests are new in RSE, but they aren't in FRLG. But then contests are in DPPt but they don't exist in HGSS, so that comes afterward.
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So wait... Team Rocket pulls the same stunts TWICE! And they fail TWICE! And the same freakin story happens TWICE? Dude, FRLG can't come after RBY. They're the same thing.
 
Ryuutakesh! said:
So wait... Team Rocket pulls the same stunts TWICE! And they fail TWICE! And the same freakin story happens TWICE? Dude, FRLG can't come after RBY. They're the same thing.
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Agreed. FRLG is a remake, therefore it pretty much occurs at the same time as RBY. There's no indicator that those games occur later than RBY... And, correct me if I'm wrong (which I probably am, I haven't played FRLG in like... Forever, haha) but if FRLG occurs after GSC, then how would Cinnibar Island have been blown into a thousand pieces by a volcano and then magically been put back together for FRLG...?

OFF-TOPIC: I'm new here. HI EVERYONE! :D
 
Ekard said:
I think this might help. In all honesty though, you should work the 'history' however would best fit your story. Trying to force any timeline might take away from your story, just for the sake of seeming more agreeable. I suggest using the following as a Guideline more so than a Rule.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/History_of_the_Pokémon_world
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OH MY GOD... that link saved my life (how in the world did that not come up when i searched it??)

Thank you :D
 
Munchlax! said:
The only comfirmed timeline is that the events of the Johto games(GS,C,HGSS) took place three years after the events of the Kanto games(RG/RB,B,Y,FRLG), and that the events of the Sinnoh games(DP,Pt) took place at the same time as the events of the Johto games (because of Red Gyarados TV report).
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Because of the sidequest to find the ruby and sapphire to trade with the Hoenn region in FR/LG, many people believe that the Kanto and Hoenn sagas occured at the same time.
 
$aturn¥oshi said:
Because of the sidequest to find the ruby and sapphire to trade with the Hoenn region in FR/LG, many people believe that the Kanto and Hoenn sagas occured at the same time.
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But the same amount believe different.
 
Ryuutakesh! said:
But the same amount believe different.
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Which has less basis than believing it proves they happen at the same time.

-It's a full-fledged quest involving the new locations in FRLG.
-Effectively expands the plot and solves some holes left over from the previous Generations.
-Lanette is explicitly mentioned once you finish the quest.

Yes, it's true that trading is a gameplay element, but unlike all other iterations, FRLG actually has a quest related to it, and it references a character living in Hoenn. It isn't rocket science. In fact, it's obnoxious to think it can't mean the games happen at the same time, or around the same time. The Time Capsule? Only a monologue by Bill. No other mention of it in the plot whatsoever. Colosseum and XD? No quest. They're "making adjustments", which finish after you beat the main story.

If they didn't want to imply FRLG and RSE take place at convergent timeframes, why even have the damn quest? Why not have what we always do and let us trade with RSE right away? Why even bother to mention Lanette when the quest is over if it didn't intend to imply the games take place around the same time?

Plus, regarding Colosseum and XD... they're "spin-offs". That isn't my opinion, though. However, for all purposes, they're detached enough to be irrelevant. And even in my view, they make sense in the timeline. I see all games taking place in one year.

Year 1: RBY/FRLG Kanto Quest
Year 2: Colosseum/RSE/FRLG Sevii Quest
Year 7: XD

I'll leave the others out, as they're not meaningful in my explanation. In my view, Colosseum takes place in the 2nd year, alongside RSE, which is why it can trade with them once it's possible. Likewise, FRLG can't trade with Colosseum until the Sevii Quest is done, similarly to the restriction between RSE/FRLG.

Now, I know XD can trade with RSE and FRLG, and it takes place 5 years after Colosseum, which, in my set-up, would mean the 7th year. However, there's a very important fact to consider. When it comes to Colosseum, RSE can trade with it before you defeat the Elite Four. Even Emerald, which otherwise requires the National Pokédex to trade foreign Pokémon, can still trade with Colosseum before getting it, which is after beating the Elite Four.

In XD, however, you need the National Pokédex in Emerald, and in Ruby/Sapphire, you need to defeat the Elite Four before you can trade. As I see it, the events of the games go through a year, which means that after defeating the Elite Four, it'd be entering the 3rd year. Also, in my view, once the obligatory quests are over, the Pokémon games keep on going. As such, it's not farfetched to understand why XD can trade with RSE and FRLG. Technically, after the quests are over, RSE is in the 3rd year, and FRLG stays in the 2nd year (The Sevii Quest is short enough). However, in a realistic sense, time would keep on flowing, so, the games could fit comfortably on any time period coming after their main quest's timeframe. As such, that's why the trading is possible. If XD didn't have such restrictions with trading to RSE, you could make a case. However, it does.
 
I thought it was canon that it goes FRLG and RSE then HGSS and DPPT. that is how I see it. There are references all through the games and such. I always stick to that continuity.
 
Just to throw a Monkey Wrench into the equation, don't forget about Jasmine (Olivine City Gym Leader) appearing at Sunnyshore City in Sinnoh.
 
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