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This is a story currently happening in the UK.
A mother was beaten by her husband, who then ran out on her, she asked social services for some help coping on her own, and social servives took the children into care.

The woman and both her boys, 6 and 8, are very strong catholics, they go to a catholic school, go to church twice a week, and the boys were about to receive their first communion.

However, Brighton and Hove council who are notorious for choosing gay partners to adopt rather than a normal couple, have decided to place the 2 children, despite the fact that both Grandparents were asking to look after the child, and the mother's brother with a gay couple, not even in a civil partnership.

Brighton and Hove, told the grandparents they were too old, and told the uncle that he was too young, (22), they tried to protest, that homosexuality is against the catholic belief, as we are told that God intended man to be raised by Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

The same thing happened, when a muslim boy was almost adopted by a gay couple, but the muslim council of Britain stepped in, and caused a huge fuss, and the boy was put with muslim parents.
Why can Muslims complain, but christians get told, that if they don't accept gay adoption they will be banned from seeing the children, that is what the gay couple have said to the boys' family.

They have also, told the boys, that all people are either gay or Lesbian as evidenced by the fact one of the boys asked his mum on their last meeting, if she was gay or lesbiam and wouldn't accept she was straight.

They have also, stoppped the children going to church and are trying to change them to a non-catholic school.
 
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So it was God who originally said "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve"? Interesting.
 
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In your post you made no comment on the actual news story.
What do you think about this?
 
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*sigh* I can see where it would be a problem for the families. I don't think trying to change the children's religion would solve anything. If anything, it'll make things harder for legitimate gay couples who want to adopt.

They are totally doing this the wrong way. This is giving the gay community a bad image.
 
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That's what my friend (gay) says.

He says that it gives gay couples a bad reputation and stuff, and also, there is a lot of anger now directed at the gay community because of this, although I feel it should be at the council and the couple.

This council is notorious that, you could have 10 straight couples willing to adopt, and 1 gay couple, they will go for the gay couple everytime, with no consideration for the child unless he is a muslim.

And this gay couple, trying to change the childrens religon and saying that you can make anyone gay if you try hard enough, just makes me feel sick, and it makes gay people I know feel sick as well.
 
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This just fuckin' sets all the hard work back... That council needs some personnel overhaul.
 
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Catholics are not against Gays. Only those who know nothing of their faith are. The Catholic Church is in no way against gay marriage, they just cant receive the sacrament of reconciliation.
 
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Catholics are not against Gays.

No one said we were.

By the title, I meant that it was a gay couple waging war on the catholic faith. Not the other way around.

The couple are blocking them going to church, stopping them seeing christian friends, and trying to change their school to a regular school.

And it isn't the bible that says Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve, the gay couple told the kids it was Adam and Steve, which really angered christian people, as it is Adam and Eve.
 
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The title makes it sound like theyre going against each other, as does the first post.
 
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Well the church and parents have appealed for the boys to be placed with a catholic family, and not the gay couple, but the council and gay couple told them they had to stop their bid, or be banned from seeing the children ever again.

Christians in the UK really feel downtroden, the muslim boy got put with a muslim couple, why can't the christian boys be placed with a christian couple, or a couple that at least goes along with the belifes of Adam and Eve, but if for an unown reason, the council has its heart set on every child being adopted by a gay couple then can we at least put these children with a couple who won't try to destroy christianity, in front of the boys, and rewrite the bits they can't destroy.

I do believe in equal rights for gay people, but if the children don't want to live with a gay couple, then shouldn't we respect that?
 
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Catholics are not against Gays. Only those who know nothing of their faith are. The Catholic Church is in no way against gay marriage, they just cant receive the sacrament of reconciliation.

I've been waiting for this to be brought up. Here's a bit more info to support DCM's statements. The Catholic church's official stance (as declared by Pope John Paul II) is that all gays are accepted within the church and the church does not look down upon them for it. It's only the sexual acts between same-sex partners that is "forbidden."

While the Catholic church does want to define "marriage" as a union between a man and woman, it is not opposed (though not overly supportive) to same-sex "unions."

DCM, Technically gay couples cannot receive the Sacrament of Marriage as well, based on how the church wants to define it.

I do believe in equal rights for gay people, but if the children don't want to live with a gay couple, then shouldn't we respect that?

They're children, they don't get to choose where they want to live. I do, however, feel that the parents' beliefs should've been taken into consideration as they ARE still their children.
 
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I've been waiting for this to be brought up. Here's a bit more info to support DCM's statements. The Catholic church's official stance (as declared by Pope John Paul II) is that all gays are accepted within the church and the church does not look down upon them for it. It's only the sexual acts between same-sex partners that is "forbidden."

While the Catholic church does want to define "marriage" as a union between a man and woman, it is not opposed (though not overly supportive) to same-sex "unions."

DCM, Technically gay couples cannot receive the Sacrament of Marriage as well, based on how the church wants to define it.



They're children, they don't get to choose where they want to live. I do, however, feel that the parents' beliefs should've been taken into consideration as they ARE still their children.

An 8 year old is well aware of the stigma from society that they and there little brother will receive because they live with a gay couple.

Yes ideally, there would be no intolerances, and people would grow up and not bully these children, but the likelihood is, they will be bullied, and the council should be thinking about the rights of the child before the rights of the couple.
 
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An 8 year old is well aware of the stigma from society that they and there little brother will receive because they live with a gay couple.

Yes ideally, there would be no intolerances, and people would grow up and not bully these children, but the likelihood is, they will be bullied, and the council should be thinking about the rights of the child before the rights of the couple.
A) That's not a certain thing to happen.
B) Perhaps these children will learn to deal with it.
 
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An 8 year old is well aware of the stigma from society that they and there little brother will receive because they live with a gay couple.

It's not a matter of whether the child is aware or not. It's the matter that IT'S A CHILD. They do not get to make legal decisions until they're legally adults. Hence, the child doesn't get to choose where s/he wants to live. End of story.

It is, however, up to the adults in the situation to make the best decision(s) for the child. In this case, I feel that the parents' beliefs should have been considered when the authorities were placing the child(ren).
 
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What worries me is that the state here is taking away the authority of the grandparents who, by all rights, should have custody of the child.

The state can mandate that I send my children to school. I have no problem wtih that.

The state can mandate that I have my children vaccinated and that they generally be in good health, and that I take them to the doctor. Again, I have no problem with that.

The state cannot and should not tell me how to raise my children.
 
What worries me here is that we have no source, and an OP whose stance on the issue apparently leans toward one side over the other...

I'm not willing to draw conclusions over this sort of scant information.

As for the state's right to tell people how to raise their children (or lack of thereof), I'm not so adamant as you are, Barb. The right of the parents and the best interest of the children aren't always the same, and if the State has to chose, it should favor the less powerful, more vulnerable element of the picture : best interest of the child > rights of the parent.
 
Yeah, I kinda want to call BS on this too.

This sounds like something fabricated by the OMG QUEERS ARE GUNNA TAKE AWAY THE STRAIGHT RIGHTS people- based on an actual story, but pretty much twisted and warped into a myth.
 
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Catholics are not against Gays. Only those who know nothing of their faith are. The Catholic Church is in no way against gay marriage, they just cant receive the sacrament of reconciliation.

The Vatican has issued several statements condemning gay marriage. The Vatican is the highest power in the Roman Catholic Church. Hence, this statement is false.
 
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So it was God who originally said "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve"? Interesting.

Mom told me that a while ago, and I believe it to this day.

I don't know what to say, I'm a Baptist Christian.
 
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