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God is...

God is...

  • male

    Votes: 23 16.5%

  • female

    Votes: 8 5.8%

  • asexual/androgynous/mixed group

    Votes: 27 19.4%

  • good

    Votes: 43 30.9%

  • evil/uncaring/selfish

    Votes: 12 8.6%

  • neutral

    Votes: 16 11.5%

  • takes an active role in the world

    Votes: 30 21.6%

  • has left or otherwise doesn't care

    Votes: 18 12.9%

  • a single entity

    Votes: 32 23.0%

  • a pantheon

    Votes: 7 5.0%

  • a committee

    Votes: 2 1.4%

  • a corporation

    Votes: 3 2.2%

  • a machine/computer

    Votes: 3 2.2%

  • the Devil, or Satan's boss

    Votes: 2 1.4%

  • our Lord and Savior!

    Votes: 42 30.2%

  • irrelevant or unworthy of worship

    Votes: 16 11.5%

  • hates certain groups of people

    Votes: 11 7.9%

  • tolerant and loves all

    Votes: 45 32.4%

  • nonexistant

    Votes: 46 33.1%

  • accurately described in the Bible, Koran, and other religious texts

    Votes: 19 13.7%

  • beyond human comprehension

    Votes: 79 56.8%
  • Total voters
    139
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Today we shall discuss the Lord and what the Lord is truly like! :unworthy:
Is God good, evil, or neutral?
Is God worthy of worship?
Is God male, female, neither, or a mixed group?
Is God a single entity, a vast pantheon, or a small committee?
 
The gods exist, are too many to name, and therefore it depends on which one you speak of ^_^
 
Don't exist, like the Easter Bunny, leprechauns and well-spoken rappers.
 
BTW, if "A corporation" is right for how to describe God, where can I buy stock in Him?
 
birdboy2000 said:
BTW, if "A corporation" is right for how to describe God, where can I buy stock in Him?
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I meant a corporation composed of higher beings (deities and such) than humans, and where deities deal, trade, backstab, and embezzle with each other, or invest in other "God" corporations (where the products are Creations of some kind or another).
 
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tedisbest said:
I meant a corporation composed of higher beings (deities and such) than humans, and where deities deal, trade, backstab, and embezzle with each other, or invest in other "God" corporations (where the products are Creations of some kind or another).
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So the Greek pantheon?

And I assume by this poll that you're referring the the Christian God aka Yahweh aka Allah?

If so, then I don't believe it exists in the sense that they present. Personally, I'm split. I'm either a Raelian (I can't remember how they spell their name) or an Agnostic. Depends on my mood. But I think the belief in a higher being may be a safeguard put into humans to prevent them from going insane. I mean NO offense to the atheists out there, but I find it almost impossible to believe anyone is a TRUE atheist. It just seems to me that the thought of future of absolute nothingness would drive someone insane. But that's just me. I'm weak.
 
Nonexistant or beyond human comprehension, I say.

I've always thought the male-or-female thing was quite silly. I mean, if you believe there is one true God, and we are his 'children', then he must have created us asexually. So either there's a population of gods (or at least two), or He is really an It.

Of course, I might just be thinking too much like a science geek, but still...gender is defined mostly by reproductive organs, and why would a God have reproductive organs if he can't...

...

Actually, that might explain why kittens still died before there were humans.
 
Well, for starters, I think you're missing one of the points of Atheism GM. Atheism is simply that you don't believe in a deity. As for afterlives, etc, that's all up to the individual. Several Buddhist sects are atheistic for instance, but they certainly believe in afterlife/reincarnation.
 
Maybe i'm just using a general word for something more specific. I'll be honest, I've only met one atheist face to face. He didn't believe in a higher power. He didn't believe in an after life (he also did drugs, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was dead now. That's not "drugs killed him" that's...just a thought). So maybe I'm just basing ALL atheists on one experience (although he was a great guy, personality-wise, which is why I usually like atheists).

That's the type of person I don't understand. Someone who sees a wall coming, and no one directing traffic. I may not agree with everyone on everything, but I can at least understand most people when it comes to this discussion (I get no higher being, but an after life, and an after life AND higher being, and I could understand no after life but a higher being). The no after life and no higher being is a mentality that puzzles me. Maybe it's a one in a billion thing. I don't know for sure...there are no polls that I've run across lately that discuss this type of thing.
 
I believe that there's problably a higher being. However, I'm positive that it doesn't match any of the conceptions of God that humans have, and is problably so alien that we/it/them can't think on equal terms or have any sort of empathy for eachother. Thus, I don't think that any higher being has a specific interest in what we do or think.

For the record, my view on the afterlife is mixed. The best view that makes sense is that this universe is so fucked up, that it can't be real. Thusly, I must be mad and imagining it.

So I don't so much believe in an afterlife, than I do that this life is "fake" and I myself is an endless conciousness without beginning or end - seeing as how I can't comprehend myself NOT thinking, and seeing as how I can't remember BEGINNING to think - I have no reason to believe that my conciousness will ever NOT think.
 
I don't believe in God. For me, the concept of God is unintelligible. It is as meaningful as any other made up word, and I suspect that it is in fact purely emotional - it has an effect on you, but it means nothing. Well, nobody was ever able to give me a solid definition for God that wasn't weak or downright impossible. I mean, since God is usually represented as a thinker, there are obvious pre-requisites to his existence (time, for example, and he must work under logic). Once you realize that God cannot be the foundation to everything and that the major concerns that lead you to believe in God (what started it all?), when put under scrutiny, become MORE absurd than before, you kind of wonder what the point is. God adds more problems than it solves. Actually, scratch that, it doesn't even solve anything.

neokuwa said:
I believe that there's problably a higher being. However, I'm positive that it doesn't match any of the conceptions of God that humans have, and is problably so alien that we/it/them can't think on equal terms or have any sort of empathy for eachother. Thus, I don't think that any higher being has a specific interest in what we do or think.
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I'll agree with that, except that I'm not committing myself on any probabilities. If "higher being(s)" have access to our universe (which doesn't equate God, because there can be a virtually infinite hierarchy of higher beings, all belonging to their own universe), they probably wouldn't be able to empathize with us, a bit like we can't empathize with characters in video games. Their concept of "right" and "wrong" could be very different, and they might prefer a violent and chaotic Earth to a peaceful one. There really are very few reasons to think that a higher being would care adequately about us. In any case, it would be a very anthropomorphic position.

As for afterlife, I kind of know how I could implement this if I was a higher being, but I think it's just wishful thinking, really. I have no problem with a sudden cessation of thought other than my own primitive fears.

I kind of like solipsism though :) I don't think it actually makes any difference, but it's fun.
 
GrnMarvl13 said:
Maybe i'm just using a general word for something more specific. I'll be honest, I've only met one atheist face to face. He didn't believe in a higher power. He didn't believe in an after life (he also did drugs, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was dead now. That's not "drugs killed him" that's...just a thought). So maybe I'm just basing ALL atheists on one experience (although he was a great guy, personality-wise, which is why I usually like atheists).

That's the type of person I don't understand. Someone who sees a wall coming, and no one directing traffic. I may not agree with everyone on everything, but I can at least understand most people when it comes to this discussion (I get no higher being, but an after life, and an after life AND higher being, and I could understand no after life but a higher being). The no after life and no higher being is a mentality that puzzles me. Maybe it's a one in a billion thing. I don't know for sure...there are no polls that I've run across lately that discuss this type of thing.
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What's so puzzling about it? All it is is basically acknowledging that you can't rely on an invisible friend in the sky to hold your hand through life. There is a bloody big wall ahead, death, that one day each of us must eventually hit. We don't know if the car of our life will make it through to something else, or if it'll impact on the wall like so many other card before it. Instead of pretending that the wall isn't there, or that some invisible person raises and lowers it depending on who's driving the car, we accept the facts of things as they are, and try to make the best of things.
 
When you drive your car of life towards the wall of death, God opens the trunk of your soul and scoops out the dead hookers of mortality.
 
Mozz said:
When you drive your car of life towards the wall of death, God opens the trunk of your soul and scoops out the dead hookers of mortality.
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WTF? Can you explain that in plain English? What are the "dead hookers of mortality?"
 
Archaic said:
What's so puzzling about it? All it is is basically acknowledging that you can't rely on an invisible friend in the sky to hold your hand through life. There is a bloody big wall ahead, death, that one day each of us must eventually hit. We don't know if the car of our life will make it through to something else, or if it'll impact on the wall like so many other card before it. Instead of pretending that the wall isn't there, or that some invisible person raises and lowers it depending on who's driving the car, we accept the facts of things as they are, and try to make the best of things.
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I dunno. It's hard to explain why I don't understand. Maybe it's because I'm from the Bible belt. Here, there is no question about the afterlife. For like 99% of the people, it's Heaven. The exact definition is debateable between the 50 different facets of Christianity, but in the end...Heaven is Heaven. This is what I grew up with. But sometime in high school...my logical side, and my religious side slammed into each other. I, personally, cannot believe in a God in the Christian sense, because it defies my logic. I think to truly ponder the afterlife is a lifetime thing. I think most people just look for what feels right to them, but for me logic prevents ANYTHING from feeling right, but at the same time, the absence of anything goes against that same logic. I look at the facts, and make my decision. But here, the facts constantly change. For EVERY fact I hear, another one contradicts it. I dunno...I'm doing a no-no and combining logic and the one thing where logic doesn't work. I'd be an atheist if I could get it to make sense to me. I'd be ANYTHING if I could get it to make sense to me. But oh well, I'm happy to continue to try and figure it out. I figure when I finally do, it'll be the definitive one that man has long quested for.
 
"Facts?" I'd sure like to see "facts" that support the existence of life after death, heaven, or reincarnation.
 
Geez, sorry, I took the time to make sure everything else I said was wrong, and I forgot that the word "facts" is non-negotiable. Apparently if I say fact, I MEAN IT. I can NEVER make mistakes when I say "fact" can I?
 
. . . Wow, Arcy. Just wow

God is probably me. I mean, why not me?
 
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