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I made this team a week ago, and i've won a huge majority of my battles. Needs a lot of work though

Togekiss (F) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 4 Def/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere
- Flamethrower
- Shadow Ball
ScarfKiss as a lead is frighteningly good, with moves to defeat almost evry lead barring the rare Aerodactyl. It also works well middle or late game, barring Blissey.
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Zapdos @ LIfe Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 SpA/252 Spe/4 Def
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Roost
- Thunderbolt
- Hidden Power {[ce]
- Heat Wave
Scizor was ruining my team, so in came Zapdos to incinerate the metal bug... thing.
This also acts as a counter to the bulky waters that plagued my team, but i have major trouble with Swampert.
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Infernape (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 64 Atk/192 Spd/252 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spd, -SDef)
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Close Combat
- Flamethrower
- Grass Knot
Standard Mixape. I needed an ice-type counter with three poke's weak to it, and Infernape
begged to be chosen. Unfortunately, it loses to a lot of water types.
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Donphan (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/252 Atk/4 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Rapid Spin
- Superpower
Rapid Spin+ physical attacker. Do I need a better spinner? Sperpower 2HKOs Blissey, but Donphan is actually not my best work.
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Porygon2 @ Leftovers
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 HP/216 Def/40 SAtk
Bold nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Recover
Gyarados, Salamence, Heatran, Vaporeon, etc: What doesn't this thing counter? Okay, mostly just those, but this thing is a beast when it comes to those.
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Tyranitar (M) @ Lum Berry
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/80 Atk/176 SAtk
Quiet nature (+SAtk, -Spd)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Flamethrower
- Crunch
I LOVE Tyraniboah. This thing breaks walls like, well, Tyraniboah. Only weakness is to fighting moves or Scizor when weakened. Lumberry for thunderwaving Blissey. I'm considering replacing Crunch+Flamethrower with BoltBeam. Good idea?

In Conclusion: Togekiss, Tyranitar, and Porygon2 will never be taken out, but I do need help with the other three. The team you see is amazing for me, but it has major weaknesses:
-Fighting types: Togekiss actually does this the best, but i still need major help with this one.
-Water/Ice types. Again, help. 3 weak to water, 3 weak to ice.

Ideas?
 
You might want to try Tentacruel instead of Donphan as a spinner.

Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Ability: Liquid Ooze
Nature: Calm
EV: 252HP 120Def 136SpD

Rapid Spin
Surf
Toxic Spikes/Toxic
Ice Beam

It resist water, ice, and fighting which are your problem areas and can set up spikes if you need it. Straight up Toxic is also useful for poisoning fliers if they are giving you more trouble. I use Tbolt instead of flamethrower on Tyranitar.
 
I thought tyranitar was a physical attacker ? Dont give it special moves
Umm evolve porygon2 into porygonZ
 
freddie515 said:
I thought tyranitar was a physical attacker ? Dont give it special moves
Umm evolve porygon2 into porygonZ
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Tyranitar can use special moves, to make it a mixed sweeper.

Also, Porygon2, I think, works better with this team than a PorygonZ would.

Really no other comments...looks like a pretty solid team to me. The suggestion of Tentacruel over Donphan has already been posted.
 
Edo-kun said:
Tyranitar can use special moves, to make it a mixed sweeper.

Also, Porygon2, I think, works better with this team than a PorygonZ would.

Really no other comments...looks like a pretty solid team to me. The suggestion of Tentacruel over Donphan has already been posted.
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Why would porygon2 work better ? Isnt porygonZ stronger faster etc. ?
 
freddie515 said:
Why would porygon2 work better ? Isnt porygonZ stronger faster etc. ?
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Yes, but look at the nature: Bold. Also, Recover is a dead giveaway that he wants the Porygon2 to be a bulky attacker. While PorygonZ is better as an all-out sweeper, it doesn't tank well, which is what this team kinda needs.
 
Okay, replaced donphan with tentacruel, but now i have 3 pokemon weak to ground types, help?
 
tactician1016 said:
Okay, replaced donphan with tentacruel, but now i have 3 pokemon weak to ground types, help?
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You also have 2 immune to it...I think that'll mostly come down to prediction. It looks like a solid team to me, still.
 
ok, i also switched zapdos with a spin blocker:
Rotom-h @ White Herb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Overheat
- Hidden Power [Ice]
white herb allows 2 overheats instead of one, other moves self-explanatory
 
Okay, i replaced tentacruel with a more offensive spinner:Starmie @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
I was wondering if i even need a spinner now, though. any ideas to cover waters and electrics in one?
 
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grass type, but i don't know where you're going to find a grass-type spinner...
 
Edit your first post with the changes so I can get a good look at the team. I'll give it my 2 cents worth then.
 
Wiil said:
Edit your first post with the changes so I can get a good look at the team. I'll give it my 2 cents worth then.
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Sorry, can't edit my post, but here's my team:
Togekiss(same as before)
Tyranitar(same)
Porygon2(same)
Infernape(same)
Starmie @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Surf
- Rapid Spin
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Rotom-h @ White Herb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 Spd/252 SAtk
Modest nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Overheat
- Hidden Power [Ice]
 
Notice something: NOTHING on this team besides Tyranitar is immune to its Sand Stream. Consider changing it. Perhaps put Stealth Rock on here? You have something to block Rapid Spin, so why not take advantage of that? You could replace Starmie with Forretress, which both Rapid Spins and is capable of setting up all entry hazards. Then you can replace Tyranitar with something. I suggest another physical sweeper in its place. Togekiss, Rotom, and Porygon2 are all special-based, and Infernape is mixed, so a physical sweeper should be beneficial. Let's see... some of the popular physical sweepers... Metagross is a bulky (sort of) physical sweeper, like Tyranitar. Salamence is there if you want speed over durability. Gyarados is a good pick... Heracross, Weavile... yeah.

The team as a whole (without Tyranitar) seems good. I don't see any major problems with any of the standards.

I'm not sure why you can't edit your first post... but I could do that for you if you'd like.
 
i went back to my original team, the new changes messed my team up (see first post)
can you help me? oh, and i gave zapdos metalsound for blissey
 
Well now I'm confused. What are you using and what are you not using? I can edit your first post but I don't know what you're using.
 
start over, use only the first post as my team. See the first post. Sorry about the mess.
 
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