Greninja's Loss of Ash-Greninja form?

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Do you think that Greninja has lost its Ash-Greninja form? If you think so, why? This because of Ash has released it or has he got changed into his Alola outfit? If you don't think so, why not? So that it'll might keep it?
 
Well, I think this theory is too extrapolated that it is hard to make any guesses. I would imagine that Ash-Greninja could never happen because it requires their bond and Ash did let Greninja go to protect Kalos. So Ash hasn't lost it because he changed outfits but more that he cannot do it. I hope that Greninja doesn't come back and dominate more episodes lol :p
 
All the form needs is Ash's bond and I don't think they lost that so no Greninja didn't lose the form he needs Ash to get into that form.
 
HiroHunter said:
All the form needs is Ash's bond and I don't think they lost that so no Greninja didn't lose the form he needs Ash to get into that form.
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I'm not saying the bond goes away, I'm saying Ash-Greninja cannot happen if they are not close to eachother.

Lillie said:
I think Greninja would still have the form, but might not be able to access it unless he's close to Ash.

Or there's always a possibility that he can use it without Ash being there.
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^ That is what I mean
 
We may never know, seeing as I don't see how they can bring Greninja back, unless they have Clemont and Bonnie show up and Clemont has Greninja, who finished the work he was released to do.
 
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KenzeyEevee said:
I recall that Ash said that they always are connected, no matter how far away they are from eachother.
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Yes I remember that too but I don't think Greninja can become Ash-Greninja without Ash being physically present though, it is through a 'battle bond' so Greninja has to be controlled by Ash.
Greninjaman said:
We may never know, seeing as I don'tsee how they can bring Greninja back, unless they have Clemont and Bonnie show up and Clemont has Greninja, who finished the work he was released to do.
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Me neither but I think your example is even less likely - to me that would be a weird episode! :p
 
As for Ash changing outfit, I think in-universe it's supposed to be a coincidence. I know it sounds ridiculous, but the old painting at the Ninja Village showed a Greninja in its Bond Phenomenon form, and it looked identical to Ash's.
 
While I think it's far more likely that Greninja does not have access to his Ash-Greninja form when Ash is so far away, I do have a little head-canon that he can use his form, but since they are seperated, it's really a struggle for both of them if Greninja uses it. LIke Greninja won't be able to hold it for too long, and Ash can't focus when Greninja is in that form because he is using up so much of his energy with the bond. As I said though, I think it's more likely that Greninja is not able to access this form because he is not close enough to Ash to find the bond.
 
techitisJ said:
it's really a struggle for both of them if Greninja uses it. LIke Greninja won't be able to hold it for too long, and Ash can't focus when Greninja is in that form because he is using up so much of his energy with the bond.
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The ability in the games, and I know that the games and the anime aren't linked but hear me out, is called "Battle Bond". I think Ash and Greninja have to be together in a battle for Ash-Greninja to work. I don't think it can work outside of battles or when they are apart. Clemont made a program which showed them 'fusing' together when they battled long enough etc etc. So, in my opinion, I don't think Ash-Greninja can happen if Ash is in a different region, for example.
 
EscLucy said:
The ability in the games, and I know that the games and the anime aren't linked but hear me out, is called "Battle Bond". I think Ash and Greninja have to be together in a battle for Ash-Greninja to work. I don't think it can work outside of battles or when they are apart. Clemont made a program which showed them 'fusing' together when they battled long enough etc etc. So, in my opinion, I don't think Ash-Greninja can happen if Ash is in a different region, for example.
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There are instances where Ash-Greninja is triggered outside of battle. One I know is when Greninja jumped off a cliff to save a Spewpa.
 
Alola said:
I'm not sure, but I did always wonder how Greninja was able to access the form without Ash being in proximity. For continuity purposes though, I'm sure he still can perform it.
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I have no doubt in saying that he can still do it but I wonder what distances are too far for it not the occur. My view is that as long as Ash is in the region Greninja is, it should work.
 
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