Gym leaders are strong against Ash, Weak against others

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Hi everyone,

Well, here I want to ask you about the gym leaders, and why they are only "Strong in Name", however they are so "Weak in Reality?

Why they only beat Ash? And cannot beat Others? Why they are so Cocky? And always carried away, and think that they are so special, and Powerful?

I am sure that you will say that they only show us when they challenge, but allow me to ask about "why they didn't beat Gary, or Paul, and so on one Bit"

So this is not a reason
 
The stereotypical TV Trope Arch-Enemy characteristic interpretation which leads to such result.

In terms of role-play and looking the viewpoint of Ash Ketchum the protagonist, what is Gym Leader? Well, they are someone needed to be defeated in order for Ash the protagonist to proceed forward to his goal. So they are a kind of obstacle, a barrier that needs to be crashed.
What any other character role that must be defeated and crashed? Well, the villain, or the antagonist.
So do you see the vagueness? There is a fuzzing in the role-play connotation between Gym Leader and antagonist.
(Though in terms of Pokemon role-play, fans knew that Gym Leader =/= antagonist. So this is a character design problem of the screenwriter)

Another problem is, if looking also from the screenwriter's POV, how to make the audience root for Ash during the gym battle, and how to bring out the catharsis of the audience where one will feel good after watching Ash had defeated that opponent? The easiest method is "villainize" the Gym Leader, let them antagonize the protagonist, let them become a bastard. Because most people will feels good when seeing bad guys triumphed by the good guys, isn't it?
Well, that is only according to screenwriting book theory (Even then, it depends on the genre of the work). In reality, will audience feels good after watching a match depends on circumstances, the power level of opponents, and most importantly the purpose of the match. There is no one-size-fits-all method that will ensure audience will feels good after watching. This is a very amateurish mistake of screenwriter where hoping such easiest solution often brought up in screenwriting textbook will always work.
 
Well, Mister クリスタル, your answer is little bit confusing, or I meant that I didn't understand a lot of it, but I think that what did you say is that there is no another sulotion; because they want us to feel that they are strong; so we can be happy for Ash, when it will when. Well that maybe will be fine, but where is there confident, and where did the carried away, and being cocky, that they showed us against ash goes now.

Is Paul, Gary, and So on are smarter, and better than Ash?

Bearing all gym leaders after his brother did lost from Braidon, I cannot imagine this reason. It is so unfimiliar, and so stupid reason. You can see that Paul is Real Madrid, or barcelona, and the opponents are Malaga, or Osasuna. The same thing with Gary, and so on. But when they challenge ash, then they became such as Real Madrid, and beat him 6-0, or ash beat them 6-5

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Oh, Maybe I should change the title to Gym Leaders are Real Madrid against, or Barchalona against Ash, and Malaga, Osasuna, and Granada against others
 
(First thing first, I really miss the old vBulletin forum where there shows my gender...... :( Although I do acknowledge I talk and write like a man, and I'd been told by RL people that I don't act nor behave like a woman, but it is just......:confused: Well, forget it.)

I don't quite understand what you were trying to say in your reply, nonetheless I guess my idea had somehow conveyed. (BTW, what is Real Madrid?)

Because I write fanfic, so I kind of understand the character portrayal problem you had described in the OP, especially from the writer's POV but not from the audience's POV.

You see, screenwriter holds the responsibility to write a story which will appeal this TV show to the largest amount of audience, and make most of them feel happy and satisfied after watching. However, because audience are counted in millions or even billions, how can the writer ensure their show can be accepted by those millions or even billions? The easiest and safest method is, goes with the Lowest Common Denominator, write a story plot according to the old story-writing theories always presented in literature textbooks.

If you really go study a bit about writing fictional works, you'll find that there exist tones of theories with statistics, where according to experiences of many previous "professional writers" what kind of tropes will be accepted by the most majority. My previously mentioned villainizing all opposing force is also one such stereotypical method mentioned in some textbook I read previously, where theoretically speaking that shall make a story become accepted by most audience.

However, you should understand that, those "Lowest Common Denominator" story-writing tropes, may not always be the best appropriate tropes for a successful story. Sometimes, they are stereotypical cliches which in fact doesn't work anymore in this modern world. So write a fictional work which deadpan follows the old literature theories may not always ensures that work will become accepted by the most majority. Yet, not many understand this, may not even for the professional writers especially schooled in college or university where they are still thinking academically.

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BTW, this "villainizing all opposing force" was theoretically considered as one story-writing trope that shall make most audience feels satisfactory after watching, as it was based on the psychological assumption that people will feels good when seeing bad guys are defeated by the good guys as I had mentioned before. This is of course just a very general assumption, without including any other situational factors that may alter the result. Hence that's why, this trope can be misused easily by screenwriters of a TV show that is rushing for an episode, especially when they do not have time to consider a very basic factor that had always presented in a story, which is "background" and "personality" of the characters.
 
Well, Mister クリスタル, what I want to say that the gyms leader became such as Real Madrid when they challenge Ash. If real madrid beat all teams in la liga football 5-0, or 6-0, then also Ash lose 5-0, or 6-0 from Gyms Leaders.

Isn't it is similar to Real Madrid in la liga
 
Please drop the "Mister"...... I'm by no mean a man (Because I'm a female!!!) .....It sounds too hilarious......

BTW, I don't quite recalled any Gym Leader defeated by Ash without Ash losing a single Pokemon (Wattson in Hoenn doesn't count, because Pikachu was overcharged, the power balance was not fair).
 
CrystaI said:
Please drop the "Mister"...... I'm by no mean a man (Because I'm a female!!!) .....It sounds too hilarious......

BTW, I don't quite recalled any Gym Leader defeated by Ash without Ash losing a single Pokemon (Wattson in Hoenn doesn't count, because Pikachu was overcharged, the power balance was not fair).
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Ok, I am sorry, but I really didn't know that you are female Miss Crystal. Anyway that right when Ash won, but mostly Ash is the one who lose 5-0, or 6-0 which similar idea when Real Madrid Won 6-0

Which means Gyms leaders are Real Madrid, or Barchalona

Ash is the other teams in La liga
 
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