Handsome to appear soon?

Perhaps this means that we're finally going to see more of Team Plasma. Looker was in BW to investigate and capture the sages, after all.
 
Guessing after the league, they might take on some of the story aspects of BW/B2W2 where Looker can be involved. It's going to be interesting how the writers will do all that and re-introduce him back in the series for a short while. It's cool to see that he'll make a reappearance in the future and hopefully it would be something Team Plasma related.
 
Fingers crossed for Team Plasma.

With the timing after the League, question of what will be used to fill the gap between now and Gen 6, and the upcoming movie, it's begging to happen.
 
If it is, I wonder how they're going to pass 30 eps or so with it. I guess an indication is better than anything, though.
 
let the team plasma especulation begin, but on the other hand it could mean that the unair TP vs TR episodes is the thing that airs
 
If it is, I wonder how they're going to pass 30 eps or so with it. I guess an indication is better than anything, though.

The same way the entire series has worked; have filler gaps between the relevant episodes.
 
Well, the anime is still in the middle of the fifth gen, and the Unova League is expected to last only a few months. I'm not surprised that Looker will appear for the inevitable post-Unova arc coming up.
 
The number of people at SPPf who are convinced that Team Plasma are confirmed to come back is staggering. They say that Looker could only be interested in them rather than Team Rocket. Nevermind the fact that he works for the International Police and should be especially interested in the organization with international activities that we know is still at large, as opposed to the one that hasn't done anything so far. Team Rocket being back in Kanto isn't an argument against them since there is no obvious reason why Ash would stay in Unova after the league. Finally, we've been promised that Team Rocket will return, whereas nothing at all has been said about Team Plasma.

Well, the anime is still in the middle of the fifth gen,
We're most likely more than two thirds into the series. 30 post-league episodes should be enough for a few villain-related episodes, but I don't see the point of introducing Team Plasma so late after they've been given no development. There isn't enough time for a brand new plot starting from scratch, since the anime is highly unlikely to to focus on any villain-related plot for more than six episodes over a 8-month period. Even if the Meteorite two-parter were to air, it would just come at the expense of new episodes.

The writers have had ample time to do something with Team Plasma, but they didn't use it. Why wait until after the league? As soon as Generation VI is announced, which should happen soon, the incentive to promote the Unova games will be heavily decreased. If anything, I see the writers creating original plots even more than they've been doing so far.
 
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First I'm just gonna say "Nooooo...oooo!" to this as I have never seen the appeal in Handsome and personally think he never added much at all to the Galaxy Gang episodes.

I'm personally hoping its to do with Rocket episodes. If Seger got arrested and never appeared again... :D
 
First I'm just gonna say "Nooooo...oooo!" to this as I have never seen the appeal in Handsome and personally think he never added much at all to the Galaxy Gang episodes.
He doesn't really add much. But at least he arrests people, which is probably what happened with Pierce and the Plasma grunts.
 
I'm personally hoping that if these indications are right, Team Plasma will appear soon (better late than never I suppose), though I'm wondering if this will be after the league or during the league that he (and possibly Team Plasma) will appear. Regardless, given the way Best Wishes has operated, I'm not going to really keep my hopes up.
 
Interesting...

But let's not go crazy, people. Just because our favorite international police agent is paying us a visit does NOT mean that he's bringing TP or those episodes with him. Sure, it would be cool if after the League we dealt with TP for the rest of BW, but sadly it's too little, too late.

Generation 5 is (apparently) ending next year and BW only has about, oh, forty or so episodes left after the League. As nice as a TP arc would be, it's just soooooo much easier to pull random nonsense out of one's ass. Especially since the BW writers CLEARLY don't know how to handle a story arc in the first damn place.

I'm just gonna look on the bright side in that we're getting some villainy again, be it TR or someone anime exclusive :)
 
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The number of people at SPPf who are convinced that Team Plasma are confirmed to come back is staggering. They say that Looker could only be interested in them rather than Team Rocket. Nevermind the fact that he works for the International Police and should be especially interested in the organization with international activities that we know is still at large, as opposed to the one that hasn't done anything so far. Team Rocket being back in Kanto isn't an argument against them since there is no obvious reason why Ash would stay in Unova after the league. Finally, we've been promised that Team Rocket will return, whereas nothing at all has been said about Team Plasma.

I presume you're Kein over there?

The writers have had ample time to do something with Team Plasma, but they didn't use it. Why wait until after the league? As soon as Generation VI is announced, which should happen soon, the incentive to promote the Unova games will be heavily decreased. If anything, I see the writers creating original plots even more than they've been doing so far.

Why wait after until the League, you ask? Easy. The League is when Team Plasma really kicked things into gear in BW1. Have Ash be about to win the tournament, then N crashes it and denies him victory (trolololol), and thus begins the TP filler arc. They didn't bother doing anything before the League because their debut was being saved for it, and their plot was being saved for after that. As for the subject of the incentive to promote Unova games heavily decreasing, one can already ask why they intend to promote Genesect alongside a Gen 6 Pokemon rather than simply shooing it away like Meloetta and focusing solely on the new Pokemon.
 
I presume you're Kein over there?
Yep. It's pretty easy to tell since almost everyone else there disagrees with me.

The League is when Team Plasma really kicked things into gear in BW1.
That was the climax which was preceded by many appearances throughout Black and White, and wasn't followed by anything important. Besides, B2W2 are certainly more relevant to Season 2 than their predecessors are.

Have Ash be about to win the tournament, then N crashes it and denies him victory (trolololol), and thus begins the TP filler arc.
Do you honestly see that happening? That would only happen if the writers prioritized Team Plasma over the league, and there is no reason to think that. If they want Ash to be denied of his victory, that's what his rivals are for (Virgil in particular).

As for the subject of the incentive to promote Unova games heavily decreasing, one can already ask why they intend to promote Genesect alongside a Gen 6 Pokemon rather than simply shooing it away like Meloetta and focusing solely on the new Pokemon.
Meloetta wasn't shooed away; it was given 13 episodes of screentime that culminated in a movie-like arc. If anything, I'd understand featuring Team Plasma and Genesect in an anime arc, but that's unlikely to happen since Genesect will appear in Movie 16. The movies have never involved game characters; even Giovanni only appeared in the prologue of Movie 1.

We both agree that Movie 16 is going to revolve around the Generation VI star. Genesect will most likely have a secondary role so that something can be distributed before the new games are released. Perhaps Genesect's ancient counterpart will be revealed, but I see no reason why that would necessitate involving Team Plasma. Either way, Looker's appearance is related to the show itself since his VA said that he will appear early next year.
 
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The League is when Team Plasma really kicked things into gear in BW1.
That was the climax which was preceded by many appearances throughout Black and White. Besides, B2W2 are certainly more relevant to Season 2 than their predecessors are.

Have Ash be about to win the tournament, then N crashes it and denies him victory (trolololol), and thus begins the TP filler arc.
Do you honestly see that happening? That would only happen if the writers prioritized Team Plasma over the league, and there is no reason to think that. If they want Ash to be denied of his victory, that's what his rivals are for (Virgil in particular).

As for the subject of the incentive to promote Unova games heavily decreasing, one can already ask why they intend to promote Genesect alongside a Gen 6 Pokemon rather than simply shooing it away like Meloetta and focusing solely on the new Pokemon.
Meloetta wasn't shooed away; it was given 13 episodes of screentime that culminated in a movie-like arc. If anything, I'd understand featuring Team Plasma and Genesect in an anime arc, but that's unlikely to happen since Genesect will appear in Movie 16. The movies have never involved game characters; even Giovanni only appeared in the prologue of Movie 1.

We both agree that Movie 16 is going to revolve around the Generation VI star. Genesect will most likely have a secondary role so that something can be distributed before the new games are released. Perhaps Genesect's ancient counterpart will be revealed, but I see no reason why that would necessitate involving Team Plasma. Either way, Looker's appearance is related to the show itself since his VA said that he will appear early next year.

If anything, I think either one of two things will happen in the league, either A. (which is the most likely) Ash looses to Virgil's army of Eeveelutions, or B. N appears in front of Ash near the end of the league and triggers a Team Plasma arc. Just because Looker will be making a possible appearance does not mean that Team Plasma will appear, if anything, it can just be him arresting some filler villain that has nothing to do with anything, followed by massive amounts of filler episodes until the beginning of Gen 6.

I do agree with both of you that Movie 16 will less likely involve Genesect, and more likely focus entirely around a Gen 6 Pokemon (likely it's Lucario/Zoroark clone) with Genesect being pushed to a bare minimum side role, if not at all in order to make more room for the Gen 6 Pokemon.
 
Yep. It's pretty easy to tell since almost everyone else there disagrees with me.

It was your posting style and join date over there that made me wonder.

That was the climax which was preceded by many appearances throughout Black and White. Besides, B2W2 are certainly more relevant to Season 2 than their predecessors are.

To us it was the climax, but to Team Plasma it was only the beginning. As a grunt notes, they tried to not be too open like Rocket and Galactic were. The assault on the League was when their liberation plans were about to really happen; everything up until that point was mere preparation.

Do you honestly see that happening? That would only happen if the writers prioritized Team Plasma over the league, and there is no reason to think that. If they want Ash to be denied of his victory, that's what his rivals are for (Virgil in particular).

I really don't know if I see that happening. Frankly, I'm having trouble predicting what will happen period. I thought Virgil and Gen 6 Eeveelution would be ones to defeat Ash, but after CoroCoro failed to even hint at a Pokemon reveal next month... As for prioritizing Team Plasma over the League, I don't see why they can't happen. With what Trip's match has been reduced to and how a filler episode will follow it, it's clear they don't seem to care too much.

Meloetta wasn't shooed away; it was given 13 episodes of screentime that culminated in a movie-like arc. If anything, I'd understand featuring Team Plasma and Genesect in an anime arc, but that's unlikely to happen since Genesect will appear in Movie 16. The movies have never involved game characters; even Giovanni only appeared in the prologue of Movie 1.

It was shooed away compared to other Mythical Pokemon; no matter how you cut it in the end an anime arc just isn't the same as the movies everyone else got. Similar, yes, but not the same. I wonder how they compare when it comes to budgets and merchandise...

We both agree that Movie 16 is going to revolve around the Generation VI star. Genesect will most likely have a secondary role so that something can be distributed before the new games are released. Perhaps Genesect's ancient counterpart will be revealed, but I see no reason why that would necessitate involving Team Plasma. Either way, Looker's appearance is related to the show itself since his VA said that he will appear early next year.

I've been thinking it could be Genesect's ancient counterpart that will be revealed. Why else let Genesect costar? Why else open up the Team Plasma can of worms by featuring it? If they wanted Gen V distribution fodder, they could have saved that upcoming Victini event or used Jirachi or Deoxys just like Mew and Celebi were in the past. And yeah, Looker's appearance has to be related to the show itself. I don't think I've seriously seen anyone believe he'll have anything to do with the movie (though that would be nice).
 
It was your posting style and join date over there that made me wonder.
I post there once in a blue moon when I see misinformation being spread like wildfire.

To us it was the climax, but to Team Plasma it was only the beginning.
You could say that about any evil team; they always have plans that get foiled by the player in the climax. There was still a lot of buildup throughout the Unova journey, but the anime did something else entirely.

As a grunt notes, they tried to not be too open like Rocket and Galactic were. The assault on the League was when their liberation plans were about to really happen; everything up until that point was mere preparation.
By that logic the entire plot was mere preparation for something that never happened. Do you expect the anime to outdo the games and have this epic saga about the ramifications of Pokémon being separated from their trainers?

I thought Virgil and Gen 6 Eeveelution would be ones to defeat Ash, but after CoroCoro failed to even hint at a Pokemon reveal next month...
I don't know what is going to happen with Virgil's Eevee, but I never expected CoroCoro to foreshadow next month's potential announcement. There have been many examples where CoroCoro revealed a new Pokémon without previously alluding to it, so let's wait until next month before we discard the theory. Even without a new evolution, I see Eevee being Ash's downfall.

As for prioritizing Team Plasma over the League, I don't see why they can't happen. With what Trip's match has been reduced to and how a filler episode will follow it, it's clear they don't seem to care too much.
Trip is hardly the only rival and a lot of fans are glad about him losing early. The Axew episode will involve Virgil (as evidenced by Umbreon being the episode's featured Pokémon), so it will most likely lead to something (development for Virgil and/or Ash's Pokémon).

It was shooed away compared to other Mythical Pokemon; no matter how you cut it in the end an anime arc just isn't the same as the movies everyone else got. Similar, yes, but not the same. I wonder how they compare when it comes to budgets and merchandise...
Blame Game Freak for designing four Mythical Pokémon for a generation that will only last three years. I think that the anime writers handled the Meloetta situation well enough.

Why else let Genesect costar?
Because there is almost always a second star, and Genesect needs to be showcased somehow.

Why else open up the Team Plasma can of worms by featuring it?
Genesect shouldn't be banned from the anime because of Team Plasma. It existed long before them and the person who resurrected it is an unimportant scientist. He could easily be replaced with an anime-exclusive character (Dr. Zager comes to mind), or the resurrection won't be brought up at all. We don't need to see a retread of Movie 1.

If they wanted Gen V distribution fodder, they could have saved that upcoming Victini event or used Jirachi or Deoxys just like Mew and Celebi were in the past.
Victini, Jirachi and Deoxys have already been featured in movies. Genesect deserves something regardless of the writers' plans for Team Plasma, or lack thereof.
 
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