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How come there has never been a male grass type leader?

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Yah im just wondering why. I know its sterotypicly females who do the garden stuff though.
 
Who knows why they havn't made a grass type leader...

I thought Bugsy from G/S/C but he a bug type trainer...

Maybe you could think of an idea for one?
 
I once came up with a Grass type trainer called Forrester. I guess there is some girlishness to the type, but there aren't too many flower pokemon, and the rest of them are pretty kickbutt if you ask me. (Not that Venusaur isn't kickbutt and it has a flower) The Grass type desperately needs a male representative.
 
Who knows. There have only been two Grass-type gym leaders anyways. Who says they won't make a male Grass-type gym leader for the next generation?

I'd really like to see a Dark-type gym leader though. If they continue with the little puzzles you have to do before getting to the gym leader for the next generation, I'd like to see what they could come up with for a Dark gym...though it'd probably just be like dark in the gym or something.
 
Sexist answer: GRASS IS FLOWERS AND FLOWERS ARE FOR GIRLS!

Real answer: I don't know.
 
Blackjack Palazzo said:
No clue, considering it's *also* stereotypically male to be a farmer.
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Considering that Gamefreak has gone more in the direction of flower arranging (Pretty petal flower shop, Erika....) rather than farming, that's probably why. Besides, I've never seen a "wheat" or "corn" grass Pokemon, mostly flowers or weeds, and the occasional plantXanimal hybrids.

Its not only Gym Leaders, there hasn't been a male grass-oriented trainer, just an Aroma Lady.
 
I think a better question would be: why no Grass-type E4? I mean, Water and, more recently, Fire got one (there was even a Champion specializing in Water).
 
Who was the Water Elite 4 member again? All I remember that can be considered even remotely close to water was Lorelei, and that's just because most ice types were part water back then.
 
Why aren't there any female electric or bug type gym leaders?
Who knows...
 
Yamato-san said:
I think a better question would be: why no Grass-type E4? I mean, Water and, more recently, Fire got one (there was even a Champion specializing in Water).
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Grass types have alot of weaknesses defensively speaking. You could theoritically use a strong fire type and it can decimate the team single-handedly.

When there are more grass types with combinations that cover all their weaknesses, then there may be a candidate for a grass specialist E4 member.

There isn't a female electric gym leader either.
 
I guess spencer doesn't count for anything.

Neway, it seems there have been biases towards different types getting specific trainers. I mean, up until the latest generations it seemed only men could handle fire and fighting pokemon, and then they gave us Flannery and the girl from veilston(can't remember her name). Therefore, since they've slowly begun to break such a trend, we might get a male grass trainer.

PDL- That's true, but isn't that true for most of the elite 4 members? I mean, I went straight through Lance in fire red with only my sceptile, loreilli with my raichu, drake with my charizard, steven with my herracross. If you can find one really strong pokemon with the right abilities, you can easily defeat and team of weaker pokemon.
 
Nomura said:
I guess spencer doesn't count for anything.
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Spenser's a Frontier Brain, and in terms of the games has had no grass Pokemon. In terms of the Anime, only half of four of the Pokemon we see him use are grass, and unlike Flint, his ther two pokemon lack a "grass-theme" towards them. Even when Flint had only two fire types, his Steelix had a fire theme in terms of how its iron body came to be, and Drifblim is a hot air baloon. Considering that Region-specific Pokemon didn't really matter for them here, it wouldn't be hard to load Spencer with grass pokemon if they so wished it.

PDL, there are a lot of good grass tpyes like Tangrowth and Ludicolo. They aren't that defensively worse than Fire-types, though the problem is that very few good grass types are ever included pre-E4.
 
Outrage DD said:
Spenser's a Frontier Brain, and in terms of the games has had no grass Pokemon. In terms of the Anime, only half of four of the Pokemon we see him use are grass, and unlike Flint, his ther two pokemon lack a "grass-theme" towards them. Even when Flint had only two fire types, his Steelix had a fire theme in terms of how its iron body came to be, and Drifblim is a hot air baloon. Considering that Region-specific Pokemon didn't really matter for them here, it wouldn't be hard to load Spencer with grass pokemon if they so wished it.

PDL, there are a lot of good grass tpyes like Tangrowth and Ludicolo. They aren't that defensively worse than Fire-types, though the problem is that very few good grass types are ever included pre-E4.
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A frontier brain is a leader, and the title of this is "why has there never been a male grass type leader?" That's why I brought his name up. Also, as this is the general discussion, I was also makeing reference to the anime, in which he had a general grass trainer theme other than his final pokemon used. Thanks for bringing up the point about Flint though, it does help with my case.
 
Nomura said:
A frontier brain is a leader, and the title of this is "why has there never been a male grass type leader?" That's why I brought his name up. Also, as this is the general discussion, I was also makeing reference to the anime, in which he had a general grass trainer theme other than his final pokemon used. Thanks for bringing up the point about Flint though, it does help with my case.
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How does bringing up Flint help your case at all? Of the four Pokemon Spenser has showed us, only two of them are grass types, and none of the other two have a grass theme towards them, unlike Flint whose non-fire Pokemon had a fire theme toward them and atleast had one fire move. All the other trainers who couldn't fit their team to match a certain type all had Pokemon which had characteristics similar to said type (see Lance).

A Frontier Brain may be a leader, but unlike Gym Leaders, they are not bound by a specific type to use in battle. It just so happens that Venasaur and Shiftry fit the nature-spirit theme that Spenser had going for him even in the games.He wasn't grass themed, like how Anabel was Psychic themed. As I mentioned before, the frontier brains don't really have much of a limit as to what Pokemon they use, even in the anime apart from the higher-legendaries. If he was a grass-themed Brain then it would not be too hard for the writers to do so, and there are many grass Pokemon with healing abilities that one could have used rather than Chansey.

Oh and thanks for pointing out that you were making a reference to the Anime as if I didn't already know, hence why I didn't write "In terms of the Anime..." and just kept to the game Spenser.

Brock's had a large number of water Pokémon in Hoenn, does that mean that he was a water-centric trainer, atleast in Hoenn?
 
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Two Pokémon of the same type on the same team doesn't automatically make their trainer a specialist.
 
Outrage DD said:
How does bringing up Flint help your case at all? Of the four Pokemon Spenser has showed us, only two of them are grass types, and none of the other two have a grass theme towards them, unlike Flint whose non-fire Pokemon had a fire theme toward them and atleast had one fire move. All the other trainers who couldn't fit their team to match a certain type all had Pokemon which had characteristics similar to said type (see Lance).
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Not the entire point of flint, but at the end of your first rant on how they could make spencer, like they did flint, grass based like they made him fire based.

A Frontier Brain may be a leader, but unlike Gym Leaders, they are not bound by a specific type to use in battle. It just so happens that Venasaur and Shiftry fit the nature-spirit theme that Spenser had going for him even in the games.He wasn't grass themed, like how Anabel was Psychic themed. As I mentioned before, the frontier brains don't really have much of a limit as to what Pokemon they use, even in the anime apart from the higher-legendaries. If he was a grass-themed Brain then it would not be too hard for the writers to do so, and there are many grass Pokemon with healing abilities that one could have used rather than Chansey.
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My point was that he is still a leader, which leaders are the central theme of this topic.

Oh and thanks for pointing out that you were making a reference to the Anime as if I didn't already know, hence why I didn't write "In terms of the Anime..." and just kept to the game Spenser.
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Anytime >_>



Brock's had a large number of water Pokémon in Hoenn, does that mean that he was a water-centric trainer, atleast in Hoenn?
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It can. I mean you could look at it and say he was playing brock as the character, but being misty as the trainer. I mean fortress was his only non water pokemon in Hoenn. Then again you could look at it as he expanding his team, something had been doing since kanto, and was still considered a rock-centric trainer.

PDL- Brock in during Indigo- Onix, geodude, vulpix, zubat....but still referenced as a rock trainer/pokemon breeder.
 
Frontier Brains aren't Leaders.

They're a separate class of similar stature.

Brains have no type specialty.

Leaders, except for Blue, do.

I hope soon we get a Grass guy and an Electric girl, though. And the Dark Gym should've been done a long time ago.
 
TTEchidna said:
Frontier Brains aren't Leaders.

They're a separate class of similar stature.

Brains have no type specialty.

Leaders, except for Blue, do.

I hope soon we get a Grass guy and an Electric girl, though. And the Dark Gym should've been done a long time ago.
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The Brains are the leaders of their respective battle arena's.

Anabel had the physic, and gretta had fighting, so some do.

Gio used types ranging from poison to ground to rock, and if i wanted to bring the anime into this idea as well, then just look at the different amount of pokemon he used there.

I hope so to, and completely agree.
 
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