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How would feel about the anime if it wasnt based off the games?

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How would you feel about the anime if it was its own show and not based off the games? Im saying if it was just an anime and the games never existed? I wanna hear your opinions !
 
I'd be one of the few who would actually like that.

The same old, same old "me get 8 gym badge, enter league, lose" rinse-and-repeat cycle gets old fairly quickly.
 
I don't think that the show would have been made if the games didn't exist. That's the only reason that there is an anime series to begin with. It certainly wouldn't have lasted nearly as long as it has at least. It might have been interesting to see how they handled it, but I'm fine with the series being based off the games.
 
EmotionalTensionPKMN said:
The same old, same old "me get 8 gym badge, enter league, lose" rinse-and-repeat cycle gets old fairly quickly.
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yea i do agree it does get annoying but id rather watch that over and over than rather watch pokemon being based off a high school setting focused on Hilda and Rosa fighting for Cheren's affections
 
97SaturnSL1 said:
yea i do agree it does get annoying but id rather watch that over and over than rather watch pokemon being based off a high school setting focused on Hilda and Rosa fighting for Cheren's affections
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Generally the concept of "monster battling" doesn't translate to "slice-of-life."

It would most likely be shounen-ish if the concept of monster battling still remained. Otherwise, it could have been any show... I think this is somewhat of a bad question. No offense to the OP. :p And really, I mean, it's not like there's any real cause for the anime being what it is because it's based off Pokemon games. Pokemon is the most flexible thing to adapt to begin with.
 
97SaturnSL1 said:
EmotionalTensionPKMN said:
The same old, same old "me get 8 gym badge, enter league, lose" rinse-and-repeat cycle gets old fairly quickly.
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yea i do agree it does get annoying but id rather watch that over and over than rather watch pokemon being based off a high school setting focused on Hilda and Rosa fighting for Cheren's affections
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Me too. If it was something like that, I'd welcome the 8 badge set-up again. XD.
 
Yeah, the anime would not exist without the games. As for them having made the anime with full freedom to do whatever they want with it, I will refer you to Orange Islands and the DA arc. If you mean having a plot other than some collectable reward, it would have to depend on what said plot was. If it kept the concept of being an adventure series, there is little that could be done to make it even more childish, but it could still be done, I will not deny that. Honestly, I think such things are best left to the fandom, because I don't think we could've ever escaped the badge quest due to having to represent the games.
 
I'm a little confused as to what's being asked in this thread - is the question whether we would perceive the anime, in its existing state, any differently if the games had never existed and it could thus be viewed as an entirely stand-alone thing, OR what the anime might have done with the concept of Pokemon if they weren't following the basic plot of the games?
 
garrison-san said:
I'm a little confused as to what's being asked in this thread - is the question whether we would perceive the anime, in its existing state, any differently if the games had never existed and it could thus be viewed as an entirely stand-alone thing, OR what the anime might have done with the concept of Pokemon if they weren't following the basic plot of the games?
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The second one.Like if it wan an anime with just episodes that had the idea of pokemon but not being based off the games how would you feel about
 
If there wasn't a game to base it on, chances are the show would be a bit more interesting as they likely wouldn't repeat the same story over and over. The only reason why they repeat the collect 8 badges go to league and lose over and over is due to the fact it is based on a game. So it is likely that the show would've become more interesting, witch evolving characters, and Ash catching more Pokémon to show off the monsters more often. Chances are though it wouldn't have lasted as long... it would've likely ended after about five or so years.

I honestly would have liked to see that...
 
Personally, I would've liked it if they didn't follow the basic concept of the game because that actually gives more room for creativity. They wouldn't have to stick to the gym badge collecting quest and challenging the league for a whole 200+ episodes. They could actually set up a different goal for the characters - something like a variant of Yellow's story in the Pokemon Adventures manga. Yellow isn't in the games at all, and her arc is completely made up as an original story on finding Red.
 
Well, Pokemon Special is based on the games and it's been creative all it wants. Not all the arcs are focused on collecting Gym Badges,
 
I'm not sure PokeSpe is the best example here, given that most of the arcs that aren't based on the gym circuit spend a lot of their time covering other mechanics and material from the games anyway.

As for what the show would be like without the games... I have no idea, except for possibly being much shorter.
 
YamiiDenryuu said:
I'm not sure PokeSpe is the best example here, given that most of the arcs that aren't based on the gym circuit spend a lot of their time covering other mechanics and material from the games anyway.
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Every Pokemon manga series adapts mechanics from the games in different and unique ways. In no way does being based off the Pokemon games hinder creativity, because the stuff in the games are vague enough to be expanded, or done differently.

Logically speaking though, if the games never existed... the anime wouldn't even be a Pokemon anime, but a different anime entirely. What kind? Could be any.
 
valzz said:
garrison-san said:
I'm a little confused as to what's being asked in this thread - is the question whether we would perceive the anime, in its existing state, any differently if the games had never existed and it could thus be viewed as an entirely stand-alone thing, OR what the anime might have done with the concept of Pokemon if they weren't following the basic plot of the games?
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The second one.Like if it wan an anime with just episodes that had the idea of pokemon but not being based off the games how would you feel about
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Isn't the current Pokemon anime already like that? An anime that is based off the basic concept of Pokemon games, but not following the story plot of the game.

I would have welcome the Pokemon anime that faithfully follows the game. What I mean is that it is then a truly monster battling adventure story, while the protagonist travel in the region, he/she meets different trainers for battle challenges, competing gyms, and during the meanwhile confront the regional villain team(s) to save people. A more matured story with different protagonist for different region, so no more idiotic protagonist that will be reset whenever he went to a new region, no more morons being blasting off continuously for their foolish unefficient plans, no more meeting and saving the girl of the day met on the road, and no more unnecessary jokes and gags that are there only for comical effects.

Mind to just ask anyone here. When you watch the Pokemon anime and also play the Pokemon game, do you ever feel the anime follows the plot of the game? Even the game's story is much much MUCH more maturer than the anime, especially starting from BW, having a hyprocritical villainous team talking about Pokemon freedom that is not something understandable easily by an ordinary 10 years old kids.

The only thing that the anime follows is merely the concepts and background settings of the Pokemon games, nothing else.
 
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I'd say the anime follows the only plot that counts: the badge quest. As a fanfic writer, I feel this concept is too frivolous to be taken seriously. Then again, I am not a competitive person. I do, however, feel that Alder is right about once you reach the top, then what? There has to be a better reason to be out on some adventure than to just be faffing about. Perhaps more could be done to make the gym challenge more daunting, but in the end, you're still just playing around in the wild with your pokes whenever you're not battling other trainers. I'm not too familiar with sports animes, but most of what they do is have a bunch of crazy rivals or even a bunch of one off opponents to face in the interim. They are what provides the tension most of the time. An alteration I've seen is for the contest to have a greater purpose. The B/W games sort of played with this idea. The latter would be the better option for me. I MUCH prefer to avoid the badge quest altogether. The best way to do this for me would be for the villains to be more central to the plot. In other words, everything has to do with them. That would be the best way to follow the games to me. Otherwise, you would need to ignore the games and do the whole thing from scratch. (my favorite method)
 
The games are probably what's made the series go on so long. Without them, it probably would have been one of those obscure, 52-episode things.

Otherwise, they could have been like Yugioh or Beyblade and change the characters with new storylines to keep it going.
 
Besides recycling places and people, the anime barely ever uses game mechanics.
 
Team Gaara said:
The games are probably what's made the series go on so long. Without them, it probably would have been one of those obscure, 52-episode things.

Otherwise, they could have been like Yugioh or Beyblade and change the characters with new storylines to keep it going.
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That seems unlikely because of how Yu-Gi-Oh! and Beyblade were promoting new merchandise with their new storylines and cast of characters. If the video games didn't exist, then I don't think that Pokemon would have had anything to motivate the creative team to keep it going.
 
Hidden Mew said:
Team Gaara said:
The games are probably what's made the series go on so long. Without them, it probably would have been one of those obscure, 52-episode things.

Otherwise, they could have been like Yugioh or Beyblade and change the characters with new storylines to keep it going.
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That seems unlikely because of how Yu-Gi-Oh! and Beyblade were promoting new merchandise with their new storylines and cast of characters. If the video games didn't exist, then I don't think that Pokemon would have had anything to motivate the creative team to keep it going.
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True, you're right about that one. I always have to remember that Beyblade, and mainly Yugioh, are still promoting merchandise.
 
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