How would you rewrite each series?

[megaevolvedmushroom]

This is what I would do:

Kanto- N/A, except I would probably have the league end better. Also, AJ, Giselle, etc. would appear in the league. Or, I would make it less perfect so other sagas won't have such a high standard to live up to, and I could enjoy them a bit more in comparison More Electrode, please.

OI- Have his OI trophy mean much more, keep the sense of urgency from Kanto, which would then carry on to the rest of the sagas.

Johto- Wilhelmina (from 'For Crying Out Loud!') would become a recurring character, Silver would be in it, Misty and her goal would be more fleshed out, Casey and Sakura would improve and appear more, no departure, Gary MIGHT still be a researcher (but it would be foreshadowed more). Also, more fillers featuring Furret! Five in a row at least XP Brock would get one of those.

Hoenn- Team Aqua/Team Magma would be handled much better, no Team Rocket, Wally, Ash would have a rival (maybe Wally?), better league, at least 1 non-traditional badge earning. Misty would be overall better, because of Hoenn being known for its water, Team Aqua, etc.. She could have Mudkip, while Brock would have Torchic (or alternatively, Ash gets Torchic while Brock gets Treecko). Also, Ash would not have aura.

BF- Have the location they're in actually LOOK and FEEL like Kanto, not just a generic place with "Kanto" slapped on it. Also, no voice change.

Sinnoh- No crappy dialogue coming out of anyone, Brock might still be a doctor, but it would be worked into the plot and foreshadowed better, no Paul (which means no whiny Chimchar backstory), Dawn introduced as a temporary addition (not a Misty replacement), Ash would win this league, no Tobias, Team Galactic handled better, no melodama, Turtwig would go to Brock, both Misty AND Dawn would have a Piplup.

Unova- Without spoiling anything, better league, no Cameron, a rival for each person (something I liked about BW): Ash- Trip and/or Cheren, Brock- Burgundy(?), Iris- Georgia, Misty- Bianca(?). Ash would have NO starters; instead, Misty gets Oshawott, Iris gets Snivy (Serperior isn't a dragon, but it does look like it should have been Grass/Dragon, right?), Brock gets a Tepig that doesn't have a cliched backstory. Team Plasma is handled just fine, but I would have had N appear earlier, along with Ghetsis. Since Team Rocket got written out after Johto, Team Plasma would be needed

Overall- No voice change, no outfit change, no replacing, no copy and pasting certain aspects from the games, more originality, etc.

 

[Cybersai]

Basically do the exact opposite of everything you just posted. I could never hold an interest in something as bad, mundane or uninteresting.

I'd probably rewrite Johto with less fillers, Misty and Brock would have proper send offs, and Ash's Johto pokemon would be handled correctly.

 

[Master Cyrus]

Ash's torterra would have gotten some wins.

Zoey would have been shot before she could make it to the finals.

Corphish would have evolved.

Ash would have swapped torkoal for a flygon.

More to come.

 

[megaevolvedmushroom]

Basically do the exact opposite of everything you just posted. I could never hold an interest in something as bad, mundane or uninteresting.

...You didn't actually address anything I said, just basically shout "YOUR IDEA SUCKS!!!"

 

[TheCableGuy]

Only thing I'd do is recon some of the Older mistakes to more properly reflect current Canon.

Otherwise, I'd leave the series alone.

 

[Zexy]

Kanto: Badges 1, 2, 4 and 5 should have been won by battles,not chores. Non-JJM TR should have appeared more, and Siplh Co 2-parter in Saffron should have been anime'd.
AJ, Giselle, Otoshi and Gary should have been all battled at Indigo League. Ash defeats Gary in a 6v6 there (Charizard finally obeying to give the win). Then loses 6v6 to Ritchie. It's fillers were okay. Yet more Misty development.
OI: More Misty development, Brock instead of Tracey. Less fillers.
Johto: Ash dumps his old team right off the bat to Oak's Lab. Casey takes Gary's place all around (subsequently beaten in Johto League). Ash loses to Harisson again.
Less fillers, more Misty development (they had tons of time, after all), and GS CELEBI ARC!
Hoenn: A better May Contest Arc, with less Mary Sue, and more losses. A bit less Team Aqua-Magma shoehorn at the first season. A better Wattson battle, a better Tate/Liza battle as well. Morrison/Harley could have been introduced a bit sooner.
BF: More showcase of Kanto (places, events, Gym Leaders, Season 1 rivals). Less fillers between first Symbol and Ribbon. JJm get dispatched at a climatic TR battle.
Sinnoh: Remove Summer Academies/Twinleaf Festivals/Johto Festivals, add a Johto Frontier arc. Prolly a bit more Ursula and not Kenny. Barry from earlier on if possible.
Johto Frontier: Aka one more Battle Frontier, in Johto this time. May/TR/Casey return...
Unova: Ash gets rid of Unova Starters, Trip n Ash rivalry becomes more like Paul v Ash (full battle 1, Ash loses, league full battle, Ash wins, and not Serperior Storm!).
Iris and Dragonite things are resolved between the JC, with Dawn helping. (aka Iris catches Dragonite at BW087, and not in BW089, giving them tive to make Junior Cup a better arc...)
Episode N: More episodes, please.

 

[GibleKidd]

Basically do the exact opposite of everything you just posted. I could never hold an interest in something as bad, mundane or uninteresting.

I'd probably rewrite Johto with less fillers, Misty and Brock would have proper send offs, and Ash's Johto pokemon would be handled correctly.

Worse Leagues and worse dialogue from the characters are interesting and exciting? I do agree with you about handling Ash's Johto team better.

I would have had Ash win the Sinnoh League and loose to Cynthia's Eelektross or Braviary and THAT would have been his incentive to travel to Unova; likewise, his competence from DP would carry over into BW and he would be 14/15 years old not 10. He would have brought Gible with him and Gible would evolve twice, becoming a Garchomp somewhere in the League. I would have Cheren as Ash's Unova rival instead of Trip. N and Team Plasma would be introduced around Nimbasa. Cameron would exist but he would be swept by Bianca in the League and then never heard from again. Outside of BW im okay with most of the series I guess, save for a few personality/evolution changes for some of the casts' Pokemon.

I would check in with older characters too. Just glimpses of whats going on with them and saying hi to Ash every now and then. Misty would become an Elite 4 member at some point, Paul would defeat Brandon, etc.

 

[megaevolvedmushroom]

Worse Leagues and worse dialogue from the characters are interesting and exciting?

So are worse voices, generic locations, and a worse Unova League (if that's even possible) XP

 

[Nymphia]

Considering the BW games (that means, not Dawn in BW, jeje) I had rewritten BW in:
-Deleting Ash vs Trip in Episode 10.
-Change some fillers like the Cottonee one for other entertaining one.
-I don't put Cameron in the League.
-The League will be better with a 2vs2, 3vs3 and 2 6vs6. And Ash vs Trip won't be in Round 1.
-Cilan would have catch another Grass type. Ash would have caught Lucario. Ash hasn't catch Palpitoad.
-Ash will fight Marlon and Drayden in place of Brycen and Roxie. And no 6vs3.
-Dawn will stay until the end of Meloetta arc, she uses her Togekiss and Buneary once more and she at least briefly mentions Hoenn.
-The JC will be on Fall 2012, 2-3 months after Dragonite capture.
-Brock have made a cameo in Unova.
-Snivy and Emolga will use Attract more.
-I will have changed some parts of some battles. Like Ash's attitude during VS Elesa and some battles of Iris in tournaments.

MAIN ISSUE: But mainly I will rewrite since Clay, spacing the Gym more and making the league not happening until more later in the series. Because it doesn't make sense to air the last Gym to promote the new games when the anime has 60 episode to do to end the series. This ois the boggest change that I made.

The Meloetta/Dawn/Cynthia arc would be after the 6th badge (who would be gotten at little later).

And Episode N would be at the end of BW.

Later I'll re-write older sagas. I will try to stay tune with the games releases and try to not do many changes to the anime.

 

[Cybersai]

Basically do the exact opposite of everything you just posted. I could never hold an interest in something as bad, mundane or uninteresting.

...You didn't actually address anything I said, just basically shout "YOUR IDEA SUCKS!!!"

Do you actually want me to dissect your post? Not sure if you intended this thread to just post your ideas or whether you're supposed to debate other people's suggestions. Most of what you presented would not work at all for multiple reasons, sans the VA or league stuff.

 

[megaevolvedmushroom]

Basically do the exact opposite of everything you just posted. I could never hold an interest in something as bad, mundane or uninteresting.

...You didn't actually address anything I said, just basically shout "YOUR IDEA SUCKS!!!"

Do you actually want me to dissect your post? Not sure if you intended this thread to just post your ideas or whether you're supposed to debate other people's suggestions. Most of what you presented would not work at all for multiple reasons, sans the VA or league stuff.

Don't really care whether you do or not, but at least not go "YOUR IDEA SUCKS" (not exact words, obviously).

 

[Cybersai]

Basically do the exact opposite of everything you just posted. I could never hold an interest in something as bad, mundane or uninteresting.

...You didn't actually address anything I said, just basically shout "YOUR IDEA SUCKS!!!"

Do you actually want me to dissect your post? Not sure if you intended this thread to just post your ideas or whether you're supposed to debate other people's suggestions. Most of what you presented would not work at all for multiple reasons, sans the VA or league stuff.

Don't really care whether you do or not, but at least not go "YOUR IDEA SUCKS" (not exact words, obviously).

Don't worry, I intend to be fair. I have to wait till I get home as I can't do this properly from a phone.

Just the mere fact that you think Misty should have stayed in every saga was enough for me to think the whole thing was poorly thought out. If you want me to debate it further I'll do it for you when I get home.

 

[Karamazov]

If you guys want to debate your ideas, sure I guess. But if the things you talk about can be covered in a Pokemon League thread, then you can take your arguments over there.

 

[Jukain]

Depends on how elaborate we're talking of a rewrite. If I have keep the constraints that the same group changes take place each saga, most of my attention would be brought to the pokemon, like allowing them to have evolutions and their own character arcs. The same would apply for the humans on character arcs. It would be tremendously difficult to keep Brock and Misty interesting, and I'm unsure if I could do it. For May, I would try to make things more difficult for her, and for Dawn, her rivals would need to be more interesting. Iris would need to be brought down a lot and her plot would need to be expanded. Cilan would also require expansion. Pokemon are simple for me, though, I always make sure they get equal attention. More effort would be made on the villain teams where they apply. DP would possibly be exempt from this because it's good as it is. BW, I am hesitant to say anyone could've salvaged this matter due to the reasoning behind it. Regardless, I still think more effort could've been made to involve TP at some other point. I totally would not have pressed the reset button in any fashion. I realize the importance of filler in terms of being a show, but DP showed us filler can be interesting if enough effort is put into it. For me, I have the great tendency to use it as character development or to feature game locations. For BW, I would forgo a smaller saga and just do things the way the other sagas did it. At least it would be planned out better.

If we're talking "poopie on how it actually happened, let's go all out how we would've written the anime from the ground up", again, I am hesitant to say if the original concept of the anime was good or not. I am intrigued by the deviation from the games, but I am also irritated by it. I would not have done things so frivolously. I am also in the camp of things should've ended for Ash and co. there, although I also don't agree with some noob winning out of nowhere unless it was greatly justified. This would require a significant growing things up and focusing on character. I know a lot of people wouldn't enjoy this, but this is just how I feel. I am unsure if I would've still had an alternate starter so I could be free to showcase the established three in another way. Chances are, I would've been similar to Special in that I would've given each of the main cast one of the starters, and they would run into each other repetitively. For the most part, though, the protagonist would still be alone.

With the change of cast for the next gen, I would still be able to be fresh without dragging things out with established characters. The hardest part for me would be inventing new plots after having already done some things in the previous saga. I would additionally take a cue from the games and have this take place 3 years ahead of time, and perhaps give subtle hints on what the previous crew had been up to in those 3 years, leading up to a big reveal of them being older and stronger, and yes, the current cast has to overcome them, eventually leading to that climactic battle atop Mt. Silver. I might have embellished on TR since TR in G/S is lame.

I once wrote a fanfic on Hoenn, and what I did was sort of alter the plot of TM and TA and I involved Latios and Latias in a really haphazard way. I even had a seemingly unrelated plot thread with the Regis. I will not deny that this story was not done well, but regardless, I would've still done something similar for the anime. If anything, by now, I could improve the relationship between the legend plots and make it all correlate better. I might have done something with the Battle Frontier, too, but that would depend on if I could make the main Hoenn plot end with enough time before the fourth gen starts. Since I would've logically split the second gen plot between Kanto and Johto, I don't see much problem with this. Wally has a lot of potential as a frail character who in the end finds his real strength.

I would've been unable to predict how the D/P plot would be melded in it's third version, but hopefully, I would've been able to drag it out enough where I could make the necessary adjustments. Truthfully, though, the anime we got in relation to TG is far better than anything I could've come up with. Again, going to the Battle Frontier would rely on if I had enough time.

I'm sure that everyone knows what potential BW has. I don't know what I would've done in terms of BW2, other than have two sagas instead of one. I don't like the plot of BW2, though, so maybe this would be tweaked as well. Of course, I would involve the World Tournament and perhaps Benga as well, but sounds like a lot to try to fit in one gen, especially considering how this one was cut short. Maybe I would instead make Benga participate in the World Tournament, culminating in a battle against him in the finals.

 

[Karamazov]

I don't want to change too much because I'm worried about infringing on the core feel of a saga. Plus I'll assume the time constraints still apply. So I'll try to just give small little changes, for the most part.

Kanto - have Ash use Primeape more. That way, we would have been more sad to see it go, after watching it bond with Ash and grow as a character. Ash would also battle Erika, though that match might end up being crashed and they'd still have to put out the fire.

Johto

Spoiler

I'd pull a Unova and have several small tournaments across the Region, maybe one or two of them having a type theme, like the Whirl Cup. To help advertise Gen II Misty would have caught Remoraid, replacing her Goldeen. (Which would have been left at the Cerulean Gym.) It would have been used over Psyduck in the Whirl Cup against Ash's Kingler, and take Goldeen's place in the overall arc.

Several episodes would devote time to Brock's medicine skills and Pokemon Breeding, much like how we have Connoiseur eps for Cilan. He would have captured the Stantler from early Johto, but it would have a passive role as a baby Brock took care of and raised, like Bonsly. This would allow us to see him in action as we watched Stantler grow throughout its tenure on the show. It would even use its psychic powers to assist Brock any of his work.

And finally, Casey would have a few more episodes, and would have made it to the League. She would take Macey's role, and may or may not taken up Macey's crush on Ash for comic relief purposes.

Hoenn was good enough the way it was, I think. Maybe make the Magmaqua two-parter a three-parter, and give Lance's role to Steven.

Sinnoh -There's a lot I wanted to change.

Spoiler

1. I'd cut the stupid Summer arc, for one. The Johto arc would be shortened to just a couple of episodes.
2. Barry would be introduced earlier, and a few CotDs would have their roles apprehended by him. Ash and Paul wouldn't have battled in the PokeRinger Contest; instead, it would be a battle between Barry and Ash in some sort of competition or regular battle, and Staravia would still evolve there.
3. Have Dawn's losing streak and character arc take place at the beginning of her story. It could also stand to have some time cut from it.
4. Gligar would have been caught after the third Gym, and the time between most Gyms would have been reduced.
5. Cheryl's arc would have been reduced to two episodes. She didn't need three. Cheryl would have battled Gardenia to evolve Mothim, and Ash would have seen Gardenia's strategies then.
6. Brock's Happiny would have evolved in its battle against Marilyn. it would have evolved into a Blissey in DP190.
7. Several training episodes would be cut and more episodes would have been given to Brock.
8. Paul and Ash's Snowpoint battle would have been less disastrous. And speaking of Paul, his Electabuzz would have lost in the Hearthome tournament, and he would have tied with Ash more often. Their rivalry was too one-sided most of the time, and I felt Paul would have needed more losses.
9. Cut Nando, give his role to Conway (who might do Contests as a way of getting closer to Dawn.)
10. Dawn's Togekiss would have been revealed to have been the evil Togepi from earlier, who had obeyed Salvia because she spoiled her. Dawn would, instead of learning to work with Togekiss's strategy, would have to tame and deal with a spoiled and manipulative Pokemon. She would still have
11. Dawn would still have Ambipom during the Grand Festival. It would be released just before the 8th Gym, though.
12. And finally, with all the time I've been cutting out, we'd have a small arc devoted to the Johto Battle Frontier. Lyra and Khoury would return to promote Johto even further. (Alternatively, the Johto Festa arc would have been moved here, and Dawn would have gotten a wild Cyndaquil while in Johto.) Barry would appear in one episode that went into more depth into his relationship with his father, and he would challenge (and lose) to Palmer.

tl;dr less training and Paul, more Conway and Barry.

Unova

Spoiler

1. Pikachu wouldn't have been in the Don Battle tournament - instead, Tranquill would have happily volunteered.
2. Roggenrola would have been used more prior to the 5th Gym, and would have evolved in the Kami or Accelgor episodes. It would also have been used in the 6th Gym, as opposed to Krokrok.
3. Scraggy's focus on the Cottonee ep would have been given to Snivy, who understood romance more or Palpitoad, who wanted to watch a Cottonee get its freak on. (Though it would have to have debuted earlier for this.)
4. Palpitoad and Stunfisk double battle against the Subway twins. Palpitoad would disobey Ash's commands and risk Stunfisk's safety in order to win.
5. They could also build a small arc after that, wherein Stunfisk sees that it was too subservient to Palpitoad and tries to get stronger and stand up for itself. The UFO and Audino eps would have been scrapped to devote time to this, even though Imori was one of my favorite CotDs.
6. The gap between the third and fourth Gyms would have been streamlined, with many of their episodes being moved to the space between the second and third Gyms, and the fifth and sixth Gyms.
7. Cameron would have been severely reduced to a battle with Ash after the Junior Cup, with his pre-League roles being given to Bianca and his battles to Virgil. Virgil might also have some non-Eevee Pokemon for his match against Ash, to shake things up and sow that he's not a one-note guy. This would make Virgil a bigger threat and give him a match, and allow Bianca to shine before her inevitable loss. Either that, or Cameron gets cut altogether,
8. Trip and Ash would battle more, with Ash defeating him in the first round of the Donomite. This would cause Trip to actively lash out at Ash more often, instead of being so cold and apathetic.
9. Pikachu's win against Garbodor would be given to another Pokemon.
10. If we have to have Cameron: Oshawott would beat Hydreigon in one hit, because LOL, comic relief, and lose to Samurott, Snivy would beat Cameron's 6th mystery Pokemon. The outcome would still be the same.

I have more, but I can't think of any now. tl;dr Ash and Trip get more focus to develop their rivalry, Ash's reserves would get the focus I feel they deserve, Pikachu would have less focus, and Stunfisk would get more stories.

I know, my ideas are bad and I should feel thusly.


P.S.: And every saga would have more recurring characters, instead of an endless string of COTDs

 

[Cybersai]

Kanto- N/A, except I would probably have the league end better. Also, AJ, Giselle, etc. would appear in the league. Or, I would make it less perfect so other sagas won't have such a high standard to live up to, and I could enjoy them a bit more in comparison More Electrode, please.

OK.

OI- Have his OI trophy mean much more, keep the sense of urgency from Kanto, which would then carry on to the rest of the sagas.

Nothing much to say here.

Johto- Wilhelmina (from 'For Crying Out Loud!') would become a recurring character, Silver would be in it, Misty and her goal would be more fleshed out, Casey and Sakura would improve and appear more, no departure, Gary MIGHT still be a researcher (but it would be foreshadowed more). Also, more fillers featuring Furret! Five in a row at least XP Brock would get one of those.

So basically fix Misty from the mistake and flawed writing position she was in, and make Johto actually enjoyable? Might have worked wonders back then.

Hoenn- Team Aqua/Team Magma would be handled much better, no Team Rocket, Wally, Ash would have a rival (maybe Wally?), better league, at least 1 non-traditional badge earning. Misty would be overall better, because of Hoenn being known for its water, Team Aqua, etc.. She could have Mudkip, while Brock would have Torchic (or alternatively, Ash gets Torchic while Brock gets Treecko). Also, Ash would not have aura.

Why should Misty continue into Hoenn, even if she was handled well back in Johto? Her character no longer had any relevance to the games or storyline, and right from May's debut episode she had better characterisation and humor than Misty did for the entire span of Johto. Then as time progressed and the Contest arc got under way, it made most people realize how much more enjoyable the series was. I don't think it took anyone long to realize the reason Johto was so poor was the terrible fillers and lack of development for the main cast, and the reason AG was more enjoyable was the fact that the main cast was better, and actually went through development.

It was basically the result of going from something poor, to something good.

Sinnoh- No crappy dialogue coming out of anyone, Brock might still be a doctor, but it would be worked into the plot and foreshadowed better, no Paul (which means no whiny Chimchar backstory), Dawn introduced as a temporary addition (not a Misty replacement), Ash would win this league, no Tobias, Team Galactic handled better, no melodama, Turtwig would go to Brock, both Misty AND Dawn would have a Piplup.

Misty and Dawn both owning their own Piplup is probably the most horrifying thought I have ever tried to process. Seems like more useless Misty pandering in an arc she had no reason to be in. Brock also shouldn't have been in this one.

Unova- Without spoiling anything, better league, no Cameron, a rival for each person (something I liked about BW): Ash- Trip and/or Cheren, Brock- Burgundy(?), Iris- Georgia, Misty- Bianca(?). Ash would have NO starters; instead, Misty gets Oshawott, Iris gets Snivy (Serperior isn't a dragon, but it does look like it should have been Grass/Dragon, right?), Brock gets a Tepig that doesn't have a cliched backstory. Team Plasma is handled just fine, but I would have had N appear earlier, along with Ghetsis. Since Team Rocket got written out after Johto, Team Plasma would be needed

Overall- No voice change, no outfit change, no replacing, no copy and pasting certain aspects from the games, more originality, etc.

So basically watch Misty and Brock for 700 episodes over other better characters? No thanks, its no surprise the writers actually acknowledged the dislike and disdain toward the handling of these two and made sure not to repeat the same mistakes again.

 

[megaevolvedmushroom]

Why should Misty continue into Hoenn, even if she was handled well back in Johto?

If she was handled well, why not? Not a lot of people would have wanted her gone if they thought she was handled well, would they?

Her character no longer had any relevance to the games or storyline,

Oh, hi there, Brock.

and right from May's debut episode she had better characterisation and humor than Misty did for the entire span of Johto. Then as time progressed and the Contest arc got under way, it made most people realize how much more enjoyable the series was. I don't think it took anyone long to realize the reason Johto was so poor was the terrible fillers and lack of development for the main cast, and the reason AG was more enjoyable was the fact that the main cast was better, and actually went through development.

Most of that is subjective. Brock hardly developed, much of Ash's development was in Johto.

Misty and Dawn both owning their own Piplup is probably the most horrifying thought I have ever tried to process.

Not as horrifying as each of the TPCi-dubbed Rockets having one

Misty's could evolve, while Dawn's could remain a marketing tool, so it wouldn't be all bad.

Seems like more useless Misty pandering in an arc she had no reason to be in. Brock also shouldn't have been in this one.

I'm assuming they'd be handled correctly, so why not keep them?

So basically watch Misty and Brock for 700 episodes over other better characters? No thanks, its no surprise the writers actually acknowledged the dislike and disdain toward the handling of these two and made sure not to repeat the same mistakes again.

I think they merely covered up the problem, personally. Acknowledging (to me) would be more like if they tried to make them better.

 

[Cybersai]

If she was handled well, why not? Not a lot of people would have wanted her gone if they thought she was handled well, would they?

You can't keep characters in the same position and handle them well. It would be like May and Dawn's Contest arcs going on for multiple gens. They would wind up in the same rut as Ash because we'd see them lose every generation with a new pokemon team. Its still the same thing over and over and there needs to be a change. Misty would be no different.

Oh, hi there, Brock.

And he suffered because of it. Because he had no relevance to the games, the writers got away with ignoring him and just leaving him there and it didn't matter. They literally just tossed 3 pokemon on him and called it a day.

Most of that is subjective. Brock hardly developed, much of Ash's development was in Johto.

None of this really has to do with Misty ----> May though.

Misty's could evolve, while Dawn's could remain a marketing tool, so it wouldn't be all bad.

Why would Misty need a Piplup? The writers didn't even want to give her Totodile.

I think they merely covered up the problem, personally. Acknowledging (to me) would be more like if they tried to make them better.

You don't keep characters for over 750+ episodes without obvious character decay happening, even if they were "handled well," which in this series just means more focus to their goals. Even if Misty's personality stayed the same as it was in Kanto, nobody needs to see the same temper for a billion episodes. I think people might have been just as tired of that if the writers had continued it into Johto rather than calming her down, but it was a loss both ways.

 

[Nymphia]

I want to make this changes into DP:
-Give Brock a few more episodes and having a better chemistry with Dawn.
-Grotle wouldn't have evolved by Torterra.
-Happiny would have evolved earlier and at the end, it would evolve in Blissey.
-The 8th Gym will be around DP165.
-Ursula would have at least 8 episodes and she would win against Dawn at least once.
-Nando would appear between the actual DP49 and DP174 in person 1 or 2 times.
-GF: Jessilina vs Dawn was Top 8 and not eing a joke and Dawn vs Zoey in Top 4. Zoey won't be a Top Coordinator.
-Ash would have lost against a normal trainer in the league and not Tobias.
-The ending of DP will be on Kanto.

 

[megaevolvedmushroom]

You can't keep characters in the same position and handle them well. It would be like May and Dawn's Contest arcs going on for multiple gens. They would wind up in the same rut as Ash because we'd see them lose every generation with a new pokemon team. Its still the same thing over and over and there needs to be a change. Misty would be no different.

If they're taken in new directions, they can remain fresh longer. Mario's been around for a LONG time, and no one got replaced, they're instead taking the characters (and the games in general) in new directions. There are obviously some exceptions but you get the drift. Before anyone calls me a hypocrite for not complaining about the plot remaining the same, while complaining about Pokemon's formula, at least Mario tries to mix it up sometimes. Pokemon just gets away with keeping the basic formula the same, while making unnecessary/superficial changes.

And he suffered because of it. Because he had no relevance to the games, the writers got away with ignoring him and just leaving him there and it didn't matter. They literally just tossed 3 pokemon on him and called it a day.

That was a problem with the writers, as stated before. My idea is assuming there's no lazy writing involved.

None of this really has to do with Misty ----> May though.

I still think Misty was more entertaining. As for being better handled, well, the writers had more experience, so they had a better idea of what to do with her. However, her writing wasn't perfect.

Why would Misty need a Piplup? The writers didn't even want to give her Totodile.

She really doesn't, there are water types she could catch. She could have caught that Buizel and had Ash keep Aipom (what happened to her was just AWFUL). But for marketing purposes, they could give one to both of them (in the case of Totodile, there was only one). The writers got better at certain things, so it is a possibility.

You don't keep characters for over 750+ episodes without obvious character decay happening, even if they were "handled well," which in this series just means more focus to their goals. Even if Misty's personality stayed the same as it was in Kanto, nobody needs to see the same temper for a billion episodes. I think people might have been just as tired of that if the writers had continued it into Johto rather than calming her down, but it was a loss both ways.

(See my first line of this reply.)