If BW and B2W2 had been ONE game instead of separate games...

BW and B2W2 as one game?

  • One huge delux game would've been great!

    Votes: 6 23.1%

  • Separated as prequel and sequel is better!

    Votes: 19 73.1%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Total voters
    26
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I wanted to ask this question for quite some time.

If BW and B2W2 had been one game, would it had been better?

BW had a good story arc, but poor post-game content.
B2W2 had average story content, but a lot of things to do post-game.

What if the two were combined into one whole game? We'd have two story arcs along with the post-game

Main game part 1: Team Plasma story - N's arc.
Main game part 2: Team Plasma story - Ghetsis' arc
Post-game: arresting seven sages, PWT, Pokewood, etc etc...

So it'll be a delux game with two large chapters. What do you think?
 
No, it wouldn't have been better. Putting a good plot and a bad plot together doesn't improve either of them.
 
I'm happy that Gamefreak experimented with numbered sequels, but ironically, 5th generation was the one I wanted to see a third version for. Even if they called it Gre/ay, they'd have lots to work off, first and foremost being the Original Dragon. Something to combine Black City and White Forest, showcasing that they can co-exist peacefully and simultaeneously, fitting in with the whole "grey" area thing. And they could try and merge truth and ideals as well.
 
Probably not, a lot of the problems with 5th gen stem from the way Unova was designed at its core: lack of alternate routes through the region, bad Pokemon distribution, and bad level pacing. Putting the games together wouldn't really solve many of these problems, they would've pretty much needed to rethink how Unova was structured from the ground up.
 
i know right
they really did not think these things out u know
 
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if they had combined the games it would make the game more interesting because ur getung two legendarys
 
i also think that if they made a sequel with it being the main characters son then it would be good
 
Guys, remember that this thread is about whether Black/White and their sequels would have been better as a single game, not about any other changes you would have liked to see to the games.
 
I really think that it would have been a really convoluted mess of a game if it was combined. The two separate plots needed two different games. I also think that they needed the chronological spacing (2 years, wasn't it?), and that would have been really weird to have crammed into one game. B/W and B/W2 are fantastic as is, I honestly wouldn't have preferred or suggested any changes.
 
If they replaced the story of B2W2 with BW and made the map better with more hidden locations AND there to be evolutions of gen 123 and 4
it would be an absolutely PERFECT game.
 
Obviously just gluing the games together back-to-back wouldn't work because that goes against most of everything that makes a story good. (I'm not someone who was in awe of BW's writing, exactly, but it's got enough of a plot that it can't be two parts like that.) I think there could be some reasonable changes to the storyline that would make it possible for them to be a single game, though. Like, there's not much of a Plasma presence in BW2 until, like, the seventh gym, so you only need the segment after BW2protag beats Drayden with a few modifications and you can ignore the majority of BW2. So the story would change a bit: Black Team Plasma has always been present alongside White Team Plasma, and they were loyal solely to Ghetsis although they might have been wearing the white knight uniform until then. Soon after you beat N, you have Ghetsis enacting Plan B because lol what, did you think he trusted N, the "hero" without a human heart?, and also possibly people's dialogue has changed to reflect your accomplishments and whatever. Some foreshadowing of Black Team Plasma could have been inserted into BW's storyline and it'd be reasonable for it to exist. You'd get the remnants of N's castle to explore. Roxie and Marlon would just not exist period, and you won't get to see how much Unova changes in two years, but they're not strictly necessary. Most of the postgame-ish plot could just exist in the postgame areas since Lacunosa and the Giant Chasm is first accessed there anyway.

I don't think that would make BW game stronger, though. A battle between the heroes of truth and ideals at the climax works for a plot, and having it be right after the Elite Four and everything works for BW. The real climax shouldn't be an arc later; if it had to be like that, it's better to have a sequel. Having a plotty aftermath might extend gameplay a bit but it wouldn't help the story impressively. Better to keep them as two separate games so they can be a story and its sequel, as it should be.
 
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there would have been a lot of cut content. No PWT, no Battle Subway, no Link Avenue, etc.

after all, a DS card can only hold so much data, and if the card had BOTH BW and BW2's adventures in one, there wouldn't be near the space to add all the extra goodies.
 
My only problem is: ones the origin, and the other a sequal.

That right there causes a major problem of will it ONLY be Hilda/Hilbert's journey, instead of Hilda/Hilbert and then Rosa/Nate? If that's the case, I like the way it is. New characters, follow up story...etc.

Or are we looking more at a start of Hilda taking down Ghetsis then the after game being Rosa's start of a journey that happens as we saw...but that seems like a jumbled mess. The whole thing with a sequal is that one is able to follow one story, the next game then wraps up the other half - your N/Ghetsis Arcs, as they were.

Plus I think it was better as it was because BW introduced us to the new Pokemons, and then B2W2 allowed us to mingle them with already existing ones. I may be alone but I was gitty going one area to the next to see which Pokemon would mixed where.

So for me the only way I want to see them combined into one game is like they do with series in other games like a games acting as collections of Mass Effect, God of War, etc. But the odds of that aren't well, so I like it the way it is.
 
I think it would have been far too much for one game. Combining two different plots, one that required a bit of a time skip to work, doesn't sound like it would have been better, especially when a lot of the content from B2/W2 might have been cut out. While B2/W2 has its problems, it works better as a separate game than it would have if it was combined with B/W.
 
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