IF Team Rocket is out of the way, do you think they'll introduce new villians?

[3Dchu]

We aren't 100% sure ofcourse, but if they are written entirely out of the show, do you think they'll introduce new villains to deal with Ash & Friends?

 

[SammyW27]

They need to do something! A big part of BW's problems are the overwhelming lack of villiany. It's bad enough Team Plasma was cut due to reasons of tragedy, but the lack of TR has been a bigger problem than I ever thought it would be! You think they'd come up with some new bad guys to make up for it! (I really wouldn't mind if Leon or Seamus showed up again)

They hit villain gold with Hunter J, who was anime exclusive. They desperately need to do that again.

 

[djoctavia]

The really need to add some ACTUAL villains! I mean really, I am really getting tired of the same old TR routine... "Try and do a plan that is actually good!-Get stopped!-Fly away!" I'd love it if Team Plasma is in there, because they actually have a good plan instead of capturing Pikachu.

 

[ObjectionMan]

They need to do something! A big part of BW's problems are the overwhelming lack of villiany.

You're kidding, right? AG and DP had much MORE of a lack of villainy since Team Rocket were NOT real villains, just gag plot devices.

TR may not show up every episode in BW, but when they do they're at least actual villains!

They hit villain gold with Hunter J, who was anime exclusive. They desperately need to do that again.

Am I the only one who thinks Hunter J is overrated? She was a real villain (unlike TR at the time), but nothing special beside that.

 

[Master Cyrus]

Basically if you think hunter J was the best thing that happened to pokemon you are above the age range that the writers are catering to and therefore have no reason to complain.

 

[Ghetsis-Dennis]

They'll probably introduce a new set of original villains while keeping the old TR trio as the new Team Rocket, with them being the only members.

 

[Musashi]

Basically if you think hunter J was the best thing that happened to pokemon you are above the age range that the writers are catering to and therefore have no reason to complain.

That's ridiculous. There's nothing to indicate J was aimed at older fans.

They'll probably introduce a new set of original villains while keeping the old TR trio as the new Team Rocket, with them being the only members.

Why would the TRio be the only members?

 

[Ghetsis-Dennis]

Why would the TRio be the only members?

Because even if Team Rocket is finished, their ambition to capture Pikachu may never die, seeing that they're the only ones who care about getting Pikachu.

 

[Musashi]

Team Rocket isn't finished though. They just gave up on Isshu.

 

[MizuTaipu]

I personally think the producers ended the Rocket-dan's story now so they could introduce the Plasma-dan post-League.

 

[Cybersai]

If you mean a new trio of villains tagging the group of course not. BW proved you don't need a trio of villains in every episode.

We should see the villain teams adapted though.

 

[SammyW27]

They need to do something! A big part of BW's problems are the overwhelming lack of villiany.

You're kidding, right? AG and DP had much MORE of a lack of villainy since Team Rocket were NOT real villains, just gag plot devices.

TR may not show up every episode in BW, but when they do they're at least actual villains!

For starters, there was at least a decent level of antagony in previous serious while BW is the Pokemon Anime at its all time most kiddy with Ash & Co far too often having adventures akin to some 70 or 80s Saturday morning cartoon :zzz:

Also, the Trio may be more compotent, but they're not really better.

For a while it was cool, but now the Bizarro-world novelty has worn off and they're just not as interesting, fun or likable as they were. And I'm not sure how much "better" they really are when they give up as soon as things go bad. Them being blasted off in battle or at least in a dicey situation beats them QUITTING BECAUSE THINGS AREN'T GOING THEIR WAY. There's something askew about the Inept Trio having more determination & guts than the Smarter/Meaner Trio literally running away from their problems

Plus, a lot of the episodes without them take the term "filler" to a whole new level :dead:

They'll probably introduce a new set of original villains while keeping the old TR trio as the new Team Rocket, with them being the only members.

And heck, that's what the producers have been doing 99% of the time anyway! :lol:

I personally think the producers ended the Rocket-dan's story now so they could introduce the Plasma-dan post-League.

Boy, that would be sweet.

But I wouldn't get my hopes too high

 

[Ampharos King]

To answer the OP's question, yes it is possible that there will be new villains for the upcoming story arcs. The writers could very well have Ash and co. battle the "antagonist team" of the sixth generation games for the anime series covering those games. There is also the possibility that there will be more COTD antagonists, like Leon or Maya, during the latter parts of Best Wishes and for its future sequels.

 

[Jukain]

That depends on whether they are truly done with TR or not. I'm not fully convinced they are. It does provide an opportunity for them to do Plasma proper in the next saga, but I can't be sure. If they're really really done with TR, then the next generation will definitely see the new villains of it be featured prominently. If Plasma does happen, then I will say that the point has been made and that TR could be done with, although I wouldn't entirely be sure. (they could still come and wreck TP's junk or even come back of their own accord) If they want to take a break until next gen, I could see that happening, but I don't see too much of a reason why. Then again, they've already proven TR's constant presence is no longer necessary, but TR's presence at all? It's feasible, but still, if the point is made on that, then I see little reason TO continue TR even if it is only to bring them back in whatever the next gen brings us. I would still have to give it the shadow of a doubt, though.

 

[Silktree]

It does provide an opportunity for them to do Plasma proper in the next saga, but I can't be sure.

They don't have time to properly showcase Team Plasma. After the league, it is more likely than not that there will only be about 30 episodes left until the end of the series, and so I can't imagine that more than five episodes will be devoted to any evil organization. Basically, Team Plasma would be introduced and then written off, with very little happening in between. It makes very little sense that the writers wouldn't have built up Team Plasma by now had they wanted them to replace Team Rocket.

I don't buy any theories about Movie 16 revolving around Team Plasma, either. That movie will obviously promote Generation VI more than anything else; the previous movies were far better suited for Team Plasma.

 

[Jukain]

Hmmm...I didn't think about it that way. I tend to overestimate what several months means for a weekly show. It would technically be less than 30, but 30 is still a good estimate, but that's only the bare minimum of what we can expect. It could last past July, but we can't know. If it was, it would be even shorter than Orange, which was 35 eps. You're right, though, that leaves little time for any villain to show up if they will. Both Orange and Battle Frontier existed without a major villain plot, so there you go. I may say that Plasma could show up, but it's merely a formality. I think everyone that expected this to be like the games is fooling themselves. I think the writers realized that, and it could be why the TR vs TP thing may have been the only thing we were going to get. As for TP as seen in BW2, maybe they could still happen, but we no longer need the same event that happened in the games to happen here. I could still be proven wrong, for next year is still a colossal blank, but indeed, one can only fit so much into that amount of time. To expect another big villain event is silly except if TR is involved somehow. I expect it to last longer than that, though, although adding two more months to the count would hardly matter much. I just didn't realize how small the amount of eps were. In that case, it probably doesn't matter TR is taking a break even if it is for the rest of the gen.

 

[Caseydia]

New villians sounds nice. It would be even better to have N follow Ash and his Pikachu around from now on.:kawaii:

 

[ObjectionMan]

[For starters, there was at least a decent level of antagony in previous serious while BW is the Pokemon Anime at its all time most kiddy with Ash & Co far too often having adventures akin to some 70 or 80s Saturday morning cartoon.

Team Rocket has just as much decent antagony as Aqua/Magma and Team Galactic did.

Hahahaha, WHAT? BW is no more or less "kiddy" than the anime has ALWAYS been. The anime is a kids' show; quit deluding yourself.

they're just not as interesting, fun or likable as they were.

Right, you're one of those people. Sigh.

And I'm not sure how much "better" they really are when they give up as soon as things go bad. Them being blasted off in battle or at least in a dicey situation beats them QUITTING BECAUSE THINGS AREN'T GOING THEIR WAY. There's something askew about the Inept Trio having more determination & guts than the Smarter/Meaner Trio literally running away from their problems

Oh right, it's "braver" and "more determined" to stand your ground even though you know damn well you're going to be attacked and blasted off. Yeah, that's not stupid at all. And come to think of it, Hunter J (who you sang the praises of) did the exact same thing, bailing frequently when her clients backed out instead of at least sticking around to finish the heroes off. I guess she's lame too then.

Plus, a lot of the episodes without them take the term "filler" to a whole new level.

WOW. Seriously!? You mean the kind of episodes they used to be in, where a Pokemon owned by a CotD would be showcased, TR would try to steal it and always get defeated...was NOT filler? And that episodes progressing character development, relationships, and rivalries (like the tournament arcs) ARE filler because TR isn't involved in any way? I have no words. I guess you want the show back to Johto style.

 

[Caseydia]

If you mean a new trio of villains tagging the group of course not. BW proved you don't need a trio of villains in every episode.

We should see the villain teams adapted though.

That's the smartest thing you've said all week. The only reason why criminal organizations exist on this show is because they exist in the game. So even if Team Rocket is gone, some strange group will show up if generation 6th is an issue.

 

[CrackFox]

Well yeah, they'll have to bring in new villians. So far, I've disliked every villian they've ever introduced, so I'm not hopeful.