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Is it possible or not, because I'm tried of constantly searching... -_-'

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So for the last 2 days I have been searching for information on how to detect my 5th Gen SID.
I've been roaming around on Google, Serebii, Smogon, and even Bulbagarden as to find an answer to if i can find my SID. I've been finding a mixture of answers that is so muddled that it's not even helpful.

People keep telling me how to do it on Gen 4, which is so easy for me to do know that I could care less about it. I've done it on Gen 4, so I don't need to know how to do it on Gen 4.

I'm looking for my SID on Gen 5. I've been on to various different forums and topics where people keep explaining how to find PID's and so forth, however this is still not telling me how to find the SID. A lot of people working with this stuff seem to have some kind of forbidden knowledge as to how to find the SID, but constantly refuse to answer the question or they just dodge it completely by explaining how to find PID's instead without the information of how to relate them to the SID.

I keep looking through as many PIDRNG manuals as I possibly can find, yet not a single one of them EVER explain how to find the SID (unless it's 4th Gen). I've been teaching myself how to use the RNG program, but I keep getting nothing when searching for how to detect my SID on BW. Plus the whole use of RNG is useless unless you have the SID, so I am at an impasse.

Please, just tell me what I need to do to find this information. Do I need to do the 4th gen style Shiny IV inspection? I have 2 shiny pokemon I caught by luck in my Black version and I have their IV's written down.

Why doesn't anybody seem to want to explain how to do this? Is it because unlike in the 4th Gen you need an actual cheating device to find the SID?

I'm just looking for some answers cause nobody seems to want to address this topic and at this point it's driving me nuts.

(If this is in the wrong section, then go ahead and move it. Thanks ahead of time to anybody who can answer my question.)
 
If you can use wi-fi, you can just send a Pokemon with you as the OT to Pokecheck and it'll tell you the SID, along with a bunch of other stuff.
 
YamiiDenryuu said:
If you can use wi-fi, you can just send a Pokemon with you as the OT to Pokecheck and it'll tell you the SID, along with a bunch of other stuff.
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I tried that website, but they couldn't help due to a block in the service provider, they were sorry they couldn't help any further. What I'm looking for at this point is an actual process that I may follow to find the SID on my own. (Preferably without the use of a rogue program *Action Replay*)
If nobody can explain it to me, then I guess the next best thing would be somebody to trade with who could tell me my SID from my trades.

Edit: For those who don't know, The SID is the secret identification that is used to determine your rate of Shiny location in game.
The benefits for knowing this code is the ability to manipulate it into always finding the shiny pokemon you want without having to change the internal code. Basically, cheating without actually cheating. (In other words, manipulation without detection.)

Edit 2/Update: I'm testing out the original method for detecting an SID if any one cares. Attempting to use the classic PID to Binary method. Not sure if it will be successful but if it works awesome. Wish me luck for anybody that truly cares.
Still waiting for an updated method however. I know for a fact that PID to Binary works for 4th Gen, but I'm flying blindly in 5th Gen. I'm using the 4th Gen PID calculator so the way I'm doing it is incredibly sketchy and may not work at all.

Update 2: I have produced my (theoretical) SID through my own endeavor. Sadly, it can only be accomplished through use of the updated IV -> PID calculator that the RNG Reporter provides and then converting all the information to Binary.

It does work though so anybody having trouble with this I highly suggest this method. I have yet to test out the new SID though, so as soon as it works I will return with confirmation.

Here's the information I used to help me through this process: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/deducing_secret_id
 
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I can't speak for the manual method, but as far as non-AR options for people using retail carts go, here they are:

1) Upload Pokemon from your OT to Pokecheck
2) Upload Pokemon from your OT to your computer with IR-GTS-BW. Similar concept as #1 except you are sending the Pokemon to your computer instead of the website. IR-GTS has a log that will display the SID of the Poke and its other stats.
3) Trade Pokemon from your OT to someone who can do 1) or 2)
4) Trade Pokemon from your OT to someone with an Action Replay
 
Troggy said:
I can't speak for the manual method, but as far as non-AR options for people using retail carts go, here they are:

1) Upload Pokemon from your OT to Pokecheck
2) Upload Pokemon from your OT to your computer with IR-GTS-BW. Similar concept as #1 except you are sending the Pokemon to your computer instead of the website. IR-GTS has a log that will display the SID of the Poke and its other stats.
3) Trade Pokemon from your OT to someone who can do 1) or 2)
4) Trade Pokemon from your OT to someone with an Action Replay
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Thank you very much for the information that you have provided, although I have found an SID code through the old binary Method, I would love to see the results by testing out your "IR-GTS-BW" to see if the codes are similar or not. I will test out the program in a while to see if it works or not.
 
Swalittle said:
Thank you very much for the information that you have provided, although I have found an SID code through the old binary Method, I would love to see the results by testing out your "IR-GTS-BW" to see if the codes are similar or not. I will test out the program in a while to see if it works or not.
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All of the above methods will give the exact SID for you to compare against. I remember that in 4th gen you didn't need your *exact* SID for it to work (e.g. last digit could vary). I'm not sure if that is still true.
 
@Troggy
Thanks so much, I downloaded the full program, I'm not used to running Python though so it's a whole new experience for me, so this may take a while. It's giving me a bit of trouble considering my programming skills are incredibly limited. I have a friend who might be a little more experienced in Python than I am so I'll just have to wait until he get's home to take a look at it for me.

I'm just having trouble with launching the files, the python files open and close simultaneously for some reason thus not allowing me to launch it for some reason.
Once again I'll update, when I can get the program running and let you know how well it worked out for me. Thanks for all your help on this.
 
You don't really have to know anything about coding to use IR-GTS. You just need to make sure you have Python installed on your computer (it sounds like you don't have it). You can get it from python.org/download. You can get 2.7.2, that seems to work fine. If you have Windows, download one of the first two options. If your computer is 32 bit, use the first one, if your computer is 64 bit, use the second. You can check that by examining the properties of your computer (Right click on 'Computer', select properties, look under 'System' information).
 
Oh huh, maybe I downloaded the wrong one. I just can't get the program to run properly. I'll double check the website again and see what it says. Didn't realize there was an option.

Edit: @Troggy

Yeah I re-downloaded Python, the 64 bit version for my computer (My comp is 64 bit), and it still failed to run the IR-GTS properly. When my friend comes home from work, I'll get him to take a look at it and tell me what he thinks I should do about it.

Is it possible that there is something wrong with the IR-GTS itself?
The version I downloaded was the "ir-gts-bw-v0.05.zip" google code.
I did this version because the regular IR-GTS is not able to be downloaded due to supposed "Developmental Hiatus"

Is there something wrong with using the google code, is there possibly another version I can download else where?
 
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That's the right one, and that's where you get it. If you have Python installed and IR-GTS extracted to a folder and everything, the program should at least load up. Is it still immediately closing when you try to execute it?
 
Troggy said:
That's the right one, and that's where you get it. If you have Python installed and IR-GTS extracted to a folder and everything, the program should at least load up. Is it still immediately closing when you try to execute it?
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Yes, It's still having an open and closing issue.
However, my friend just came home, he said he's going to take a look at it for me in a moment. He suggested that instead of running the program on Windows, that I should instead run it on Linux. (I have a Windows desktop and a Linux Laptop.) He prefers to work with Linux anyways, he says that since I'm using Python, it shouldn't be an issue to run it on Linux, and also that if there's an actual problem he'll be able to fight it easier due to Linux being his forte.

Well, we're about to work on it together, I'll update when I have either; a) Got the program to run properly. b) Come across new issues/problems.

Edit: New issue; So I've got the program up and running on Linux, however, now I can't send the pokemon over to the program. I can't even connect to the GTS at all. I followed the manual for the GTS-IR but the DS refuses to connect to the GTS properly.
My friend is helping me with it, but he's not exactly sure of any of the mechanics or programing for the DS or this program.

Do you happen to know why it refuses to connect to the GTS? I even have the correct DNS code put in.

Edit2/Update: @Troggy
I have now got the program in running condition and it has saved my pokemon information, however, now I'm not exactly sure how to open the data for the pokemon in order to check it. Do I use python to do this or is there some other method?
 
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Swalittle said:
Edit2/Update: @Troggy
I have now got the program in running condition and it has saved my pokemon information, however, now I'm not exactly sure how to open the data for the pokemon in order to check it. Do I use python to do this or is there some other method?
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There should be a .txt file in the IR-GTS directory that is called 'Statlog'. IR-GTS writes the Pokemon data to this file each time a new Pokemon is uploaded to your computer. Open that file and you should see the information you need :)
 
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