Is it too late for Gen V to be milked?

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I heard that Gen 6 is coming next year and since the best wishes series is almost over i was wondering is it to late for nintendo to make more black and white spin-offs like a gen 5 mystery dungeon game or a 3d simulation game like battle revolution and stadium?
 
Its only logical that Gen 6 comes next year on the 3DS. The anime series is going much faster and will likely have Ash complete his badge quest this year, with the league and filler arc shortly after before the next series.

BW2 is likely the final Pokemon main series DS game, as I don't see Hoenn remakes coming at least till Gen 6 is released.

So yeah, I agree that its coming next year. There likely won't be another console game until the Wii U, and that would be a part of Gen 6.
 
Generation VI being released by the end of 2013 is the most sensible prediction at this point. But even that estimation gives us around a year and a half for the remainder of Generation V, which is plenty of time for at least two games released between B2W2 and the next generation. One of those games could easily be a Wii title featuring 3D battles.
 
Generation VI being released by the end of 2013 is the most sensible prediction at this point. But even that estimation gives us around a year and a half for the remainder of Generation V, which is plenty of time for at least two games released between B2W2 and the next generation. One of those games could easily be a Wii title featuring 3D battles.

Agreed. I personally feel we are overdue for the next "Battle Revolution", especially since none of the formes introduced in Platinum could be used on Battle Revolution, and now we're in Gen 5. Perhaps they are just waiting for Black 2 and White 2 to come out first, that way the Kyurem formes can be included? Just a thought.
 
Perhaps they are just waiting for Black 2 and White 2 to come out first, that way the Kyurem formes can be included? Just a thought.

I never thought of it like that before, thats actually quite plausible. Anything new introduced they may not want excluded this time around.

I really dunno though, given the slew of side games that could happen instead. I would prefer the Wii game though as opposed to that scenario.
 
The anime series is going much faster and will likely have Ash complete his badge quest this year, with the league and filler arc shortly after before the next series.
What about the possibilty of another anime season featuring B2 / W2? Maybe not another badge-quest since that would be pretty pointless, but they could probably incorporate the new story into another season somehow. No one really knows how it's going to work out, but if they do make another season it could very well put quite some extra time between B2 / W2 and Generation VI games.
The other thing is that the anime doesn't even need to follow any game. They could make another filler season like they did with the Orang Islands to take up more time between the generations if they finish BW but don't have the Generation VI games ready yet. Or they could always show reruns.

Agreed. I personally feel we are overdue for the next "Battle Revolution", especially since none of the formes introduced in Platinum could be used on Battle Revolution, and now we're in Gen 5. Perhaps they are just waiting for Black 2 and White 2 to come out first, that way the Kyurem formes can be included? Just a thought.
I doubt that's the reason. They could easily make the 3D models and program everything but just have it so it can't be accessed until B2 / W2 come out.
But I'm definitely looking forward to a Stadium type game for this generation.
 
Doubtful. The regular Best Wishes is already featuring BW2 content, as Ash is challenging the new Poison Gym Leader. What they will likely do is feature BW2 content as you said to advertise. But, the thing is that Ash will likely be done with his badge quest by this year, which means that there will need to be nearly a years worth of filler anyways.

The anime does tend to follow the games (just look it up) for advertisement purposes. Generation 6 coming out in 2013 sometime near the usually fall time, (September) or maybe a little later is perfect timing. Best Wishes would be done by that point, they could switch to the new series to promote Gen 6.
 
My guess is that RSE remakes are going to appear AFTER the introduction of Gen 6 (sometime in 2014), and during the year of 2013, we might have a side-game, like another one of those Ranger series, or Mystery Dungeon.
 
I doubt Gen 6 is coming out next year. A 3DS game engine they would have to build from scratch, unlike BW's which is pretty much just re-used from DP's back in 2006. Likewise if the graphics are actually going to look better than SNES type stuff they'd spend some extra time on it.

I think the fact that we're getting BW2 as a full new adventure instead of Gray is to stall time. GameFreak wants this to be a full new game on its own and not just a third game, its obviously to satisfy the pokemon fanbase in the meantime.
 
I doubt Gen 6 is coming out next year. A 3DS game engine they would have to build from scratch, unlike BW's which is pretty much just re-used from DP's back in 2006.
Ruby, Sapphire, Diamond and Pearl were built from scratch and in both cases the development only took two years. For all we know, the development of Generation VI started in early 2010 when Game Freak were given 3DS development kits (which is a fact); in that case, a late 2013 release date would mean around 3.5 years of development.

Likewise if the graphics are actually going to look better than SNES type stuff they'd spend some extra time on it.
They will have had enough time by late 2013, and their staff has been expanded to accommodate their new needs.

I think the fact that we're getting BW2 as a full new adventure instead of Gray is to stall time. GameFreak wants this to be a full new game on its own and not just a third game, its obviously to satisfy the pokemon fanbase in the meantime.
This seems like a reason to dispense with remakes rather than unnecessarily prolong this generation. Game Freak aren't "stalling for time", as evidenced by the fact that Junichi Masuda isn't the director of B2W2, which means that he is working on the next generation instead.
 
I doubt Gen 6 is coming out next year. A 3DS game engine they would have to build from scratch, unlike BW's which is pretty much just re-used from DP's back in 2006.
Ruby, Sapphire, Diamond and Pearl were built from scratch and in both cases the development only took two years. For all we know, the development of Generation VI started in early 2010 when Game Freak were given 3DS development kits (which is a fact); in that case, a late 2013 release date would mean around 3.5 years of development.

The 3DS hardware is quite different than the GBA and DS. With each new system graphics get more powerful and games take longer to create. Its basic game development.

This seems like a reason to dispense with remakes rather than unnecessarily prolong this generation. Game Freak aren't "stalling for time", as evidenced by the fact that Junichi Masuda isn't the director of B2W2, which means that he is working on the next generation instead.

Its stalling for the fandom, not GameFreak. Its being billed as a full new adventure, almost as if its a completely new game when it really isn't.

I do agree we likely won't see R/S remakes until AFTER the 6th gen games though, I fully expect Hoenn on the 3DS sometime in 2014-2015...
 
The 3DS hardware is quite different than the GBA and DS. With each new system graphics get more powerful and games take longer to create. Its basic game development.
Do you honestly believe that as time goes by, the hardware gets more advanced while the developers stay behind? That every game from now on is going to take more time? That's a terrible prospect for the gaming world as a whole, but luckily, it is entirely your own impression and is not supported by the reality of things.
 
The 3DS hardware is quite different than the GBA and DS. With each new system graphics get more powerful and games take longer to create. Its basic game development.
Do you honestly believe that as time goes by, the hardware gets more advanced while the developers stay behind? That every game from now on is going to take more time? That's a terrible prospect for the gaming world as a whole, but luckily, it is entirely your own impression and is not supported by the reality of things.

Do you follow the game industry at all? That's exactly what's happening. Obviously creating 16-bit games took less time than full 3D adventures. Game development costs and time is skyrocketing.

The reason they got out all these DS Pokemon games one after the other is they all rehashed the same engine from DP, and remember that came out in 2006...2 full years after the DS came out in 2004. Remember how DP was supposed to come out in 2005 but got delayed a year? Most likely its because GameFreak wasn't used to the DS hardware yet and needed to fine tune things.
 
Do you follow the game industry at all? That's exactly what's happening. Obviously creating 16-bit games took less time than full 3D adventures. Game development costs and time is skyrocketing.
I've read about the rise in development costs, which implies that companies (that are rich enough, like Game Freak) are dealing with the heavier requirements by hiring more employees, as Game Freak have done. Releasing games at a lower frequency is obviously a last resort.

The reason they got out all these DS Pokemon games one after the other is they all rehashed the same engine from DP, and remember that came out in 2006...2 full years after the DS came out in 2004. Remember how DP was supposed to come out in 2005 but got delayed a year? Most likely its because GameFreak wasn't used to the DS hardware yet and needed to fine tune things.
Diamond and Pearl were never supposed to be released in 2005 (that was just an unsubstantiated rumor started by fans), seeing as their development started in late 2004. The difference between 3.5 years and two years is plenty of time to account for the 3DS being more powerful than the DS. Besides, the jump from the GBA to DS was more radical than the current case is.
 
Diamond and Pearl were never supposed to be released in 2005 (that was just an unsubstantiated rumor started by fans), seeing as their development started in late 2004. The difference between 3.5 years and two years is plenty of time to account for the 3DS being more powerful than the DS. Besides, the jump from the GBA to DS was more radical than the current case is.

IIRC DP had a projected 2005 release date, hence why the Hoenn league of the anime ended by June 2005. Had DP come out there would have never been any Battle Frontier arc and they would have went straight from the end of the Hoenn league to DP.

Do you have any news from that era? Its been so long ago but that's what I remember at the time.
 
IIRC DP had a projected 2005 release date, hence why the Hoenn league of the anime ended by June 2005. Had DP come out there would have never been any Battle Frontier arc and they would have went straight from the end of the Hoenn league to DP.
The first Battle Frontier episodes were written in early 2005. Obviously, the writers didn't expect to see Diamond and Pearl released by the end of that year.

Do you have any news from that era? Its been so long ago but that's what I remember at the time.
The Bulbanews archive is a good start, but this article says it all: "The scan points out that Diamond and Pearl will be released in Japan in 2006, not in late 2005 as many fans previously speculated." The 2005 prediction was merely speculation. In December 2004, Tsunekazu Ishihara said that 2005 would see the release of games for the GameCube (XD), Game Boy Advance (Mystery Dungeon Red) and DS (Trozei and Mystery Dungeon Blue). In contrast, Junichi Masuda only said that 2005 would see him place all his power into the development of Diamond and Pearl. When I read that back then, it was obvious to me that the development had just begun and that the games wouldn't be out by the end of 2005.
 
I see. Even so I expect the usual 4 year cycle between gens. BW came out in 2010, BW2 comes out in 2012, 2013 will probably have SOMETHING but not Gen 6 yet.
 
2013 will probably have SOMETHING but not Gen 6 yet.
Then how do you explain Meloetta being featured in the same movie as Keldeo? If we aren't even halfway through the generation, why are they rushing it? There is no apparent reason for the post-League anime saga to be two years long, either.
 
2013 will probably have SOMETHING but not Gen 6 yet.
Then how do you explain Meloetta being featured in the same movie as Keldeo? If we aren't even halfway through the generation, why are they rushing it? There is no apparent reason for the post-League anime saga to be two years long, either.

They always cover the legendary event pokemon before the next gen. The last AG movie featured Manaphy a DP pokemon, and the last DP movie was primarily about Zoroark other than the Johto promotion. The fact that all BW legendaries will be seen by the 2013 movie means little, since the movie afterward will probably still be considered part of this gen.
 
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