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Jaxon's Battle tower team

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Mr.Mime
Bold
Filter
Choice scarf
254 Spd/ 128 def /128 Hp
-Trick
-Torment
-Flash
-Reflect

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Tentacruel
Adamant
Liquid Ooze
Black Sludge
252 Spd/ 252 Atk/ 8 Hp
-Rest
-Substitute
-Waterfall
-Accupressure

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Togekiss
Timid
Scerene Grace
Leftovers
252 Spd/ 252 Sp.Atk/ 6 Hp
-Nasty plot
-Air slash
-Aura sphere
-Flamethrower
 
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lopunny shouldn't use klutz, since you want to attack first and get them locked in. Also, a bulkier pokemon learning trick from a tutor like uxie, cresslia, spiritob, starmie, etc, wont get KO'd on the first hit.

instead of slowking and weavile, you wan't something which is bulkier with lots of immunites, so it can come in on the choiced attacks. Examples of these are curse snorlax, curse registeel, DDmence, SD scizor, SDchomp, etc. Slowking is bulky, but boosting while being hit isn't good, and weavile wont survive a hit. A steel type is needed to absorb toxic, and a flying type is good to avoide ground attacks. It sucks flygon, with 2 immunities, doesn't have a boosting move. Anyways, your strategy is correct but the pokemon used could change.
 
Im afraid ive only got pearl and I just moved so my wi-fi isnt wireless anymore so my resources are limited. How about Keckleon with trick, Azelf with Nasty plot and Leafeon with swords dance?
 
If you remove Klutz, you lose the ability to Fake Out and are forced to Switcheroo the first turn no matter what. I'd keep Klutz, as Lopunny is decently fast anyway, and it gives you more versatility when choosing what to do.
 
Lopunny has a base 105 speed. In that case, everything running a +speed nature and above 105 speed kills your whole team, since most things are able to kill lopunny in 1 hit. Chances are, you will find at least 1 pokemon fitting that bill before battle 49. If you cant trade and don't have platinum you are stuck to just a few pokemon. Keckleon has good special bulk, so it may work, though you would have to test it. Azelf with nasty plot works, with an immunity, and good bulk. Leafeon isn't so great because you really need a steel type to absorb toxic should they use it, and while it is bulky, it needs resistances, which it doesn't have. If you have a generation 3 game, curse registeel works. You cant get Bullet Punch on scizor with out platinum, Im afraid, and most steels cant boost. However, poison types are also immune to toxic. Tangrowth might work with either sword dance or growth. Also, Jumpman (A guy on Smogon), got over 2000 by using drapion, who has an immunity to psychic as well. Couple thing to remember:
1. keep substitute on both boosting pokemon, so a pokemon locked into a sleep move will fail after you set it up, same with a weak attack or 1hko users. Also, keep flash on kekleon or whatever you are leading with, so it can reduce the foes accuracy once the item is tricked, helping reduce damage taken even more.
 
How about this instead?:
Kecleon
Jolly
Color change
Choice scarf
254 spd/ 128 hp/ 128 sp.def
-Trick
-Flash
-Thunder wave
-Rest?

Drapion
Adamant
Battle armor
Leftovers
255 spd/ 255 atk
-Swords dance
-Cross poison
-Earthquake
-Crunch

Togekiss
Timid
Scerene grace
Leftovers
-Nasty plot
-Flamethrower/ Roost
-Aura sphere
-Air slash
 
As i said, you really need substitute on both of your set up pokemon, or else OHKO spammers would kill you before you finish setting up. Sub will block the attack so you will be safe. And I haven't played around with Drapion, but Jumpman used :

(M) @ Black Sludge ** DRAPULA
Ability: Battle Armor
EVs: 252HP/252SpD/4Spe
Nature: Adamant
~ Crunch
~ Acupressure
~ Substitute
~ Rest


I never lost faith in you, Drapion... This Pokémon may be the single most dependable poke in the history of the BT. Especially with max SpD now, which renders pretty much every non-STAB neutral special move incapable of 3HKOing. By the nature of the Mesprit/Drapion synergy, the only relevant special attacks Drapion will have to take are Ice Beam and Surf. Due to Platinum's new fetish with Signal Beam, I don't even have to take STAB Ice Beams many times, as pokemon like IB Glaceon, Jynx and Dewgong opt for Signal Beat instead. STAB Surf sucks, but only Vaporeon can OHKO, and one uses AA while the other uses the the aforementioned Signal Beam.

Offensively, Drapion really doesn't need any Attack EVs at all, because it literally does not matter how much damage I can do to a Steelix or a Bastiodon because Drapion does not care at all with +6 in everything. You kind of have to try it for yourself, because there's only so many words I can type about Drapion being able to spam Acupressure in everything's face after help from Mesprit. Like I noted last time, Battle Armor and Acupressure were made for each other.

I will again mention that Acupressure does not work behind a Substitute, otherwise my battles would be even easier than they already are. But I knew Team DRAPULA II still had potential for huge success, and Drapion proved me right.
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and got to 2366 and counting His other pokemon were mesprit and garchomp. here is the actual team. Accupressure deals with a low speed, and it is bulky enough to take some hits that way.
 
I love this idea for Drapion, as Acupressure deals with Evasion hax while simultaneously being an offensive move. However, is there any reason the nature is Adamant over Impish or Careful? With +6 attack, I'm not sure Drapion needs the boost. And it might want more defenses to help it set up.
 
I really don't know why, but I think that at +6 defense, you will be able to take pretty much any hit, while you won't be able to OHKO anything with crunch. Pokemon like lucario, sould you come across one, will need adamant and +6 attack should you want to come out on top, I would think.
 
Maybe i could use tentaruel instead? I dont wanna rip him off TOO much...And are the rest OK?
Tentacruel-
Black sludge
Timid?
244 hp/ 128 def/ 128 sp. def
-Sludge bomb/ Poison jab/ Surf/ Waterfall
-Accupressure
-Rest
-Sub?
 
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tentacruel learns accupressure? OK, I figure it would work well, but make sure yoiu don't use a poison type attack since steels are immune to it. I wouldn't worry about the rare vaporeon, as you would probably be able to kill it with togekiss. Just test it out and see what happens, it passes the eye test for me.
 
Go with Waterfall on Tentacruel. Of the strong physical walls, none resist Water except the bulky waters, who won't be able to do much to you (since you're immune to Toxic and all). Many are even weak to it. On the special side, there's Blissey to worry about. Going the physical route is probably the better choice.

Yeah, after some calcs, max IVs Blissey with no EV investment and a neutral nature still isn't 2HKOd by +6 no investment Tentacruel's Surf. Go with Waterfall.

Also, for Kecleon, I don't know how useful Rest is going to be. I might try Substitute, Recover (if you have HGSS), or Fake Out instead. Or Mud Slap, which will work like a damaging and more accurate version of Flash, but fail against ground immune Pokemon.
 
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I might go with Mr.Mime instead of kecleon. He may look retarded but he does have 2 reasonably useful abilities and is faster than kecleon (less hp and slightly less def though)
My decided team so far:

Mr.Mime
Bold
Filter
Choice scarf
254 Spd/ 128 def /128 Hp
-Trick
-Rest/ Torment?
-Flash
-Charm

Tentacruel
Adamant
Liquid Ooze
Black Sludge
252 Spd/ 252 Atk/ 8 Hp
-Rest
-Substitute
-Waterfall
-Accupressure

Togekiss
Timid
Scerene Grace
Leftovers
252 Spd/ 252 Sp.Atk/ 6 Hp
-Nasty plot
-Air slash
-Aura sphere
-Flamethrower
 
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