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Lack of Female Starting Pokemon

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I'm really frustrated of the lack of Female Starter Pokemon.

Bulbasaur/Charizard/Squirtle are 87.5% Male, 12.5% Female
Totodile/Cyndaquil/Chikorita are 87.5% Male, 12.5% Female
Mudkip/Torchic/Treeko are 87.5% Male, 12.5% Female
and even in Generation IV we have..
Piplup/Chimchar/Turtwig being 87.5% Male, 12.5% Female.

What's so frustrating about this? Well, the Gender doesn't really matter if you don't do breeding and try to use Egg Moves, but if you do use breeding and egg moves, then it is!

Let's say you want an Egg Move on any of the Starter Pokemon, you need a Female of that Pokemon! And if your starter isn't female, than you have to go through this:

Either constantly breed your starter with a ditto(which will subsequently screw up your moves you have on your starter Pokemon) or, find a Female of that starter on GTS. Constantly breeding your starter with a ditto to find a female is just ridiculous! Since it's a 87.5/12.5 ratio, then for every 10 Eggs, usually you'll only find 1 or 2 of them being Female!

Then once you have that done, you need to find a male pokemon that has that move you want, and who knows how long that can take! Then you need to breed with the female starter, and since most of us who do Egg Moves are probably concerned about Natures too, we might end up having countless eggs.

So in the end.. thanks to that 87.5/12.5 ratio, trying to get a Female Starter Pokemon for Eggs Moves and then trying to get a certain nature might end up with someone having to catch over 30+ Eggs!
 
Or just start with a female by soft-resetting until you get one. It's what I do.
 
This is something that as plagued us since generation 2 so I think its better off in the Videogame section or General Discussion.

Anyway, this was done to protect their "one-off" status early in the game. With a female starter, you can easily begin to mass produce starters by Solaceon and send them over to the GTS.

Besides, it's not that hard to do it. Just get one female starter of the desired nature, and whore it out to a smeargle if it is capable. It's not like these starters need that many egg moves bred on their natural moveset to function.
 
The crappy male/female ratio has always bugged me. I want a female starter so i can name it a girls name!
 
I guess it's so that you don't get too strong, I mean, aren't starters suposed
to be stronger then normal pokemon of there evo status?
 
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No, where did you here that? In any case, I don't see how having a female would make you any stronger, it just means you have better collateral for trade early on in the game's release. Of course now, none of that matters when finding a Sinnoh starter is fairly easy.
 
Oops, my bad, what I ment was that if you breed you starter early in the
game you can get two of them, but now that I think of it, it probably isn't
a good idea to have two of the the same pokemon on your team...
 
I was lucky! My starters in BOTH Diamond AND Pearl are female! On my first try, too!
 
Blurrz said:
Either constantly breed your starter with a ditto(which will subsequently screw up your moves you have on your starter Pokemon) or, find a Female of that starter on GTS. Constantly breeding your starter with a ditto to find a female is just ridiculous! Since it's a 87.5/12.5 ratio, then for every 10 Eggs, usually you'll only find 1 or 2 of them being Female!
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Only 10 eggs for a female? I've bred like, 20-30 Piplups and STILL no female! DX I guess I'm just REALLY unlucky...
 
It's not just getting a female -- it's getting a female with a benificial nature to boot. I know when I was soft-resetting my Diamond for a good-natured Turtwig, I was about half an hour into it when I seriously considered keeping the one I ended up with just because it was female, even though it had a pretty crappy nature (I think it was Hasty, but I don't remember).
 
This ratio doesn't apply for just starters: Many one-off Pokémon where you have to breed to get more of them easily are like this: Eevee, Togepi, Riolu, Snorlax, Fossil Pokémon, Combee... there might be others I've missed.

Anyway, a one in eight chance of getting a female isn't so hard to get. I've been pretty lucky and gotten females of all the above Pokémon.
 
Welcome to the complications of breeding. I don't see how anyone has the patience for it unless they eat, sleep, and breathe pokemon.
 
It's doable while watching a movie or so... all you do is cycle up and down a lot and you only have the pay attention occasionally.
 
Yeah, that's how I breed.

But what's this about starters not being better? In terms of average base stats of non-legendary Pokemon, Swampert is 20th, Infernape, Typhlosion and Charizard are tied for 23rd, Empoleon, Blaziken, Sceptile, Feraligatr and Blastoise are tied for 26th, and Venusaur, Meganium and Torterra are tied for 40th. While that's not the absolute best, it's still pretty good considering the competition. And in the beginning of the games, you're supposed to have mostly crappy Pokemon. I think it's quite possible they didn't want people breeding starters until they were farther into the game. Or they just want people to use their own starters instead of breeding new ones.
 
I know I'm probably gonna get flamed like a Bellsprout fighting a Heatran for this, but...

The complications of breeding are part of the reason I purchased an Action Replay. I never use hacked Pokémon, but you can use the wild Pokémon modifier to meet the starter Pokémon. Eventually you'll get a male and female. You can use nature modifiers to select their natures, and then give them Everstones when you mate them. (I'm assuming we all know about the Everstone trick)

They will produce a legitimate egg, with a 50% chance of having the same nature as their parents. Then you can trash the hax, and train up your new starter. It saves lots and lots of wasted time.
 
To get in on the punches... =)

To a purist, that is not only wrong, but seriously wrong. You know that there are people out there that will do everything as legit as possible, even to the point of not trading with people they don't know, to get the pokemon they want.

While I don't necessarly agree with the way that the game is coded 100%, I can see where most people become reluctant to using modified pokemon. They don't like to cheat, and this is considered a cheat.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not a purist and don't really have an issue when doing something like this. The issue I have is when a Pokemon is modified OUTSIDE of it's valid stats, and then traded like nothing is wrong.
 
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That's funny I've never gotten a male starter.
 
Lukan said:
To get in on the punches... =)

To a purist, that is not only wrong, but seriously wrong. You know that there are people out there that will do everything as legit as possible, even to the point of not trading with people they don't know, to get the pokemon they want.

While I don't necessarly agree with the way that the game is coded 100%, I can see where most people become reluctant to using modified pokemon. They don't like to cheat, and this is considered a cheat.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not a purist and don't really have an issue when doing something like this. The issue I have is when a Pokemon is modified OUTSIDE of it's valid stats, and then traded like nothing is wrong.
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Yeah, I never mess with Stats. I don't really like cheating, but breeding is such a bother otherwise. Everything else I do religiously legit, even presented with the option of doing otherwise.

I battled someone on PBR yesterday who had a Tyranitar with moves like Hydro Cannon and such. That pissed me off. ~.~ Now there's a cheater.
 
Hmmm.... that shouldn't have worked. Most hacks can't slip by the PBR filter.

Although I'm pretty sure the guy who I battled with four shiny pokemon hacked those.
 
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