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What do you think that will happen to Ash in the Sinnoh League and further? I think that Ash wil beat Paul in the finale with his newly evolved Infernape, Pikachu, Sceptile, Snorlax, Kingler and Charizard. If this won;t happen I still hope that Ash beats Paul with all of his Sinnoh Pokemon and all fully evolved except for Pikachu, and kicks Paul's ass. Then he has to beat the Elite Four and beat Cynthia, Charizard beats Garchomp with an Dragon Pulse that is has learned in the Charicific Valley.
 
I am really tired of people who believe Ash will use anything but his Sinnoh team in Sinnoh League. People, use common sense. There's no way Ash will use anything but his Sinnoh Pokémon before Sinnoh League will end.
And seeing how writers are building things up now, Ash will not beat even Paul in Sinnoh League. Whoever believe Ash will win Sinnoh League is stupid. Sorry I must tell it this way, but that's how I feel. And I still think writers will somehow omitt the Ash vs. Paul battle in League.
And as for Ash's team, I am convinced we will only see one evolution before (or during) League and that evolution will be either Monferno or Grottle, more incline to Grottle, because I think it will be replaced with Bayleef for next Filler Saga.
 
Well I'm glad to see some poeple agree with me on this subject, I think it wouldn't make any seance since Ash only used his Hoenn pokemon during the Hoenn league.

Also I think they should have the flame of heatran be brought to the league this time also.
 
Haha, thread creator, that's. XD It'd be interesting.

You know, I do think Ash will probably use his Sinnoh team in this one. He's worked with them all so much, and they were the ones that battled against Paul in their last match, so it only makes sense (if this is going to be an Ash and Paul confrontation, whiiich it probably will be).

However, I disagree that there is no hope of Ash beating Paul. I really do think it's possible with the way the story has progressed. A bit hinted, even, when Paul lost to Brandon when Ash has already defeated him. Just saying. I know it's been said that Paul has changed a bit, and he's not going to be any pushover, but I still think it's possible.

Ash winning the whole league, though, I'm not so certain. "Imo", not likely. It would be interesting if he did, since they had so much E4 this time around, but even if he did somehow make it to the E4, he wouldn't win. XD Especially not with Charizard.
 
I, also, think that Ash will only use his Sinnoh team in this league. I think that he might beat Paul, and since he has battled Paul so many times using his Sinnoh Pokemon, it's only right that they should be the ones who eventually take him down :D. Also, in Hoenn he only used his Hoenn team.
 
The writers are clearly building up to Satoshi beating Shinji in the league with his Shinou team. I'm surprised there's so much debate about this.
 
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Hear hear :/ I don't understand how people can't see this! Why would he lose so badly just to lose again? Just no.
 
I hope its Ash Vs. Paul in the finals too.

There is no reason Ash can't win this league. As long as no Richie/Harrison/Tyson character pops up out of nowhere. :p
 
Scott85 said:
I hope its Ash Vs. Paul in the finals too.

There is no reason Ash can't win this league. As long as no Richie/Harrison/Tyson character pops up out of nowhere. :p
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I think we'll see another Richie/Harrison/Tyson here also. Writers don't change. Ash can beat Paul but will lose in semifinal to another trainer who came out of nowhere. Unfortunately. Pokemons change, battles change. Writers and scenario don't change. We see same things from league to league.

If there will be another character like Richie/Harrison/Tyson and Ash will lose to him after beating Paul I really will stop watching this anime.
 
Musashi said:
The writers are clearly building up to Satoshi beating Shinji in the league with his Shinou team. I'm surprised there's so much debate about this.
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You are not serious here, are you? As I wrote before, I would have accept this theory if writers let Ash to beat at least 4 of Paul's Pokémon. The way they did it was obvious build up for Ash not to beat Paul anytime soon. At least not in 6 on 6 battle. He may have some chances against Paul in 3 on 3 battle but it would be stupid to wrap Ash and Paul's rivalry this way. That's why I think this is obvious build up writers will not give us Ash vs. Paul battle in League and let Ash lose to either Barry, Nando or some random ROTL (Rival of the League). I don't understand how people can realistcaly not see it.
 
Some of you are forgetting that real world type probabilities DO NOT AFFECT THIS SHOW. IRL, if I were "rubbish" one time (as some of you claim Satoshi was) the likelihood of me being rubbish the next time is high. But in Pokemon, not only is it irrelevant but it practically works the other way! If you lose the first time, you will win the second through the power of friendship or something!
 
I just hoped that, if Ash has to battle Paul, he has to realise that he almost can't win with his sinnoh pokemon alone... And I said that if Ash will only use his sinnoh pokemon, and win the league, that he will change some pokemon to challenge the elite four.
 
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Because it doesn't make sense. You don't build up losses to another loss, and just when would the rivalry be tied up if not the league?
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And that's why I love the idea of no Ash vs. Paul confrontation in League. I would love to see Ash being beaten by Nando (but ROTL can work here too) who then will beat Paul in the very next round. That way, the writers would have shown Paul is still better then Ash, since he managed it before Ash, but still not good enough to beat the guy who beat Ash before. That would be great build up for Ash vs. Paul final confrontation at the end of next filler saga.
But if you guys want to see yet another DEM win from Ash (and I can't imagine how Ash beating Paul right after that slaughter he got from Paul can be anything but DEM), OK, you have your right for that. But I hope if such thing will happen, you will get me my right to complain really hard in that episode's thread :p
Not to mention it's stupid for me to have more or less the same battle less then a year after the first battle.
 
They're probably not going to keep Paul after Sinnoh. His character has run its course.

There would be no reason to do a full 6 on 6 battle prior to the league if Paul was just going to beat him yet again. Otherwise that 6 on 6 would have never happened, and they would have just had a regular shorter battle like in other episodes.

I am expecting a big clean slate after Sinnoh ends. Sinnoh has gone on the entire span of AG, and I doubt the writers will keep the show the same way for 300 episodes.
 
I don't see Paul to go away for next filler saga. He will surely stay just like Gary stayed for Johto and Drew and Harley stayed for Battle Frontier. I see no point to let Ash do whatever he will in next filler saga without rival. And don't come with that stupid "Ash didn't have rival in Kanto BF" excuse, because I believe he didn't have rival there simply because he didn't have regular rival in Sinnoh either.
And that battle. Well, I already told my opinion, but I obviously must repeat myself for you to get it. I have a problem to accept that masacre of Ash as something like foreshadowing of Ash beating Paul in League. That's plain stupid for me and I really hope writers are not stupid enough to do this!
 
Paul's gone, Dawn's gone, Barry... maybe. If they go with BF.

Misty should come back... or maybe Kotone will stay if they go to Johto.
 
peno said:
I don't see Paul to go away for next filler saga. He will surely stay just like Gary stayed for Johto and Drew and Harley stayed for Battle Frontier.
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Gary stayed for Johto because Kanto was so short. They wanted Ash to have a rival for a long period of time. By the time Sinnoh ends Paul will have been around for 200 episodes. Paul staying for another generation would make his character stale. I'd rather Ash continue to get all-new rivals each gen than stick to the same one.

And that battle. Well, I already told my opinion, but I obviously must repeat myself for you to get it. I have a problem to accept that masacre of Ash as something like foreshadowing of Ash beating Paul in League. That's plain stupid for me and I really hope writers are not stupid enough to do this!
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Given Sinnoh's pacing its still another 50 episodes till league time. Ash's team can get plenty stronger by then.
 
Scott, must we really go there? No matter how much you want to believe in nonsenses like Sinnoh League will not be before next september or Ash will win the League, there's no way such nonsenses can really happen. Sinnoh will be over around episode 180 if most. Doing Sinnoh for more then that, will be boring. Gee, even this stretchening before 8th Gym already is boring and I am getting bad Johto vibe of this. And there's no way next Movie still will be in Sinnoh. So stop your stupid and nonsensicall assumptions.
But, even if, in some eruption of insanity of writers, Sinnoh would have last for more than 200 episodes, it's still no reason for writers not to keep Paul for more. I don't see how his character can become stale. His personality can slightly change for next filler saga, just like Gary's personality changed for Johto. I see no point in giving Ash a brand new rival for next filler saga.
 
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