Legendary Pokemon Discussion

[smalllady]

Besides the usual suspects (Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Lati@s, the Regi trio, Jirachi, Deoxys), which other in-game or event legendaries do you think we'll see in the remakes?

IIRC, HG/SS had the Weather trio after you beat the E4 and got the red/blue/jade orbs, as well as the Creation trio if you had the event Arceus from the 12th movie.

 

[Dr. Buni]

Hopefully Dialga, Palkia and Giratina will be in somehow. Why? Because yes.

It would be nice to see some underdeveloped legendaries coming back, like Meloetta and Victini. Regigigas should definitely be in, also.

 

[Phoenixon]

Hopefully Dialga, Palkia and Giratina will be in somehow. Why? Because yes.

YUUUUS!!!

We've seen the Bird trio too much, and the beast trio were in HG/SS, not long ago.
So it makes sense to see the Creation trio again.

And of course, I want to see Regigagas along with the other regis.

(THERE NEEDS TO BE A REFERENCE TO "My body is Reggie"!!!!)

 

[J Jay]

There's an awful lot of wishful thinking behind this as I haven't played Gen III/IV, but Hoenn, water, seas, seafaring .... Manaphy please.

 

[Shadow Rush]

Lugia, Celebi, Manaphy (and Phione), Heatran, Regigigas, Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus.

 

[Phoenixon]

Lugia, Celebi, Manaphy (and Phione), Heatran, Regigigas, Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus.

Why Lugia? And not Ho-Oh?

 

[Shadow Rush]

Lugia, Celebi, Manaphy (and Phione), Heatran, Regigigas, Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus.

Why Lugia? And not Ho-Oh?

Isn't it obvious? Its a deep sea-dweller. Omega Ruby could have the same legendaries except swap Lugia for Ho-oh and Manaphy for Shaymin. Sorry for not clarifying that those legendaries were for Alpha Sapphire.

 

[Phoenixon]

Lugia, Celebi, Manaphy (and Phione), Heatran, Regigigas, Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus.

Why Lugia? And not Ho-Oh?

Isn't it obvious? Its a deep sea-dweller. Omega Ruby could have the same legendaries except swap Lugia for Ho-oh and Manaphy for Shaymin. Sorry for not clarifying that those legendaries were for Alpha Sapphire.

OH, then that makes a lot more sense.

 

[Fairy Type Arceus]

Rayquaza battle

Do you think it'll be included? If so how?

also image the above in 3d oh my god O.O

 

[Joshawott]

Regigigas has to happen. If it doesn't, then I'll be genuinely surprised.

I hope that GameFreak don't do a B2W2 and cram it too full of legendaries, so I hope the remainder are divided between OR/AS and the next Kalos games. Maybe the list for this game pair could be like:

• Mew (via Faraway Island event)
• Raikou
• Entei
• Suicune
• Lugia
• Ho-Oh
• Regirock
• Regice
• Registeel
• Groudon
• Kyogre
• Rayquaza
• Deoxys (via Birth Island Event)
• Heatran
• Cresselia
• Regigigas

Which would actually leave the next Kalos games with about an even number (The Pixie, Creation, Genie and Tao trios, as well as XY trio - we don't need the Kanto legends again).

 

[Shadow Rush]

Re: Rayquaza battle

Do you think it'll be included? If so how?

also image the above in 3d oh my god O.O

As a thirteen year old, I was speechless. Now as a twenty-one year old, I might go blind [and deaf] from the remade cutscene.

 

[Norzan]

Re: Rayquaza battle

Wouldn't be cool if they actualy fought? With the limitations of the GBA i understood why there wasn't a fight but with the 3DS the three actualy firing beams of death at each other would be awesome.

 

[Silktree]

Some legendaries will probably remain exclusive to Generation V due to Pokémon Bank. By the time HGSS were released, Pal Park couldn't be used on DSi systems.

Which would actually leave the next Kalos games with about an even number (The Pixie, Creation, Genie and Tao trios, as well as XY trio - we don't need the Kanto legends again).

I doubt they'll remove them from the Kalos Pokédex. And we arguably don't need anything that is available in B2W2, either.

and the beast trio were in HG/SS, not long ago.
So it makes sense to see the Creation trio again.

The Creation trio were available in Platinum, which was released just one year prior to HGSS, and they were even available in HGSS via an event.

 

[Joshawott]

Some legendaries will probably remain exclusive to Generation V due to Pokémon Bank.

Isn't it GameFreak's "thing" to make it so every non-event Pokémon can be obtained within a single generation though? So why would they stop now? I mean, with that logic, why should GameFreak have bothered putting so many Sinnoh legends into Unova, because we had the PokéTransporter.

I doubt they'll remove them from the Kalos Pokédex.

I didn't say they would be removed from the Kalos Pokédex, just that they could only be available to be caught in XY. As it is, they aren't even needed for Kalos Pokédex completion purposes anyway.

 

[Silktree]

Isn't it GameFreak's policy to make it so every non-event Pokémon can be obtained within a single generation though? I mean, with that logic, why should GameFreak have bothered putting so many Sinnoh legends into Unova, because we had the PokéTransporter.

No. Generation V lacked most of the past legendaries. To be precise, B2W2 only offered 11 out of 26 non-event legendaries from previous generations.

I didn't say they would be removed from the Kalos Pokédex, just that they could only be available to be caught in XY. As it is, they aren't even needed for Kalos Pokédex completion purposes anyway.

It would be awkward to place more legendaries after them while keeping them unobtainable in-game.

 

[Quetsol Melt]

Legendary Pokémon that are not from the Hoenn Region, that I can see are...

1) Mew (If they decide to do the Faraway Island Event for the remakes).
2) Lugia (If they decide to do the Navel Rock Event for the remakes).
3) Ho-Oh (If they decide to do the Navel Rock Event for the remakes).
4) Heatran.
5) Regigigas.
6) Manaphy (An event I'd imagine).
7) Kami Trio: Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus.

 

[Joshawott]

No. Generation V lacked most of the past legendaries. To be precise, B2W2 only offered 11 out of 26 non-event legendaries from previous generations.

And yet it had all of the Sinnoh legendaries barring the creation trio (which did receive distributions around the end of Generation V), despite DPt being released so soon before them. The Creation Trio received distributions across a lot of the western world at the end of Generation V, while the Weather Trio were distributed in Japan. Mewtwo was also distributed at one point, so really, it was only really the Kanto birds and Johto legendaries that were missing from Gen V.

I didn't say they would be removed from the Kalos Pokédex, just that they could only be available to be caught in XY. As it is, they aren't even needed for Kalos Pokédex completion purposes anyway.

It would be awkward to place more legendaries after them while keeping them unobtainable in-game.

Do you really want another game with the legendary birds? I mean, Platinum, HG/SS, XY - three game releases in the space of 7 years. Also, it wouldn't be more awkward than say, when Platinum let you see Manaphy, which wasn't at the end of the Platinum Sinnoh Dex, or the other version's mascot in every primary pair not belonging to Gen II or their remakes.

 

[Nate21212]

The Kamis because they make sense alongside the weather trio

 

[Silktree]

And yet it had all of the Sinnoh legendaries barring the creation trio (which did receive distributions around the end of Generation V), despite DPt being released so soon before them. The Creation Trio received distributions across a lot of the western world at the end of Generation V, while the Weather Trio were distributed in Japan. Mewtwo was also distributed at one point, so really, it was only really the Kanto birds and Johto legendaries that were missing from Gen V.

Distributions are not part of this discussion.

Do you really want another game with the legendary birds? I mean, Platinum, HG/SS, XY - three game releases in the space of 7 years. Also, it wouldn't be more awkward than say, when Platinum let you see Manaphy, which wasn't at the end of the Platinum Sinnoh Dex, or the other version's mascot in every primary pair not belonging to Gen II or their remakes.

Yes. Only one of them is available in a given XY version depending on your starter, and their connection to Lugia and the Sea Spirit's Den remains unexplained. Lastly, their hidden abilities are still unavailable. I don't see why they should be removed just to make room for legendaries available in B2W2.

 

[Joshawott]

Distributions are not part of this discussion.

The Creation trio were available in Platinum, which was released just one year prior to HGSS, and they were even available in HGSS via an event.

That event was unobtainable without receiving an Arceus from a distribution.

Do you really want another game with the legendary birds? I mean, Platinum, HG/SS, XY - three game releases in the space of 7 years. Also, it wouldn't be more awkward than say, when Platinum let you see Manaphy, which wasn't at the end of the Platinum Sinnoh Dex, or the other version's mascot in every primary pair not belonging to Gen II or their remakes.

Yes. Only one of them is available in a given XY version depending on your starter, and their connection to Lugia and the Sea Spirit's Den remains unexplained. I'd rather see them again than all of the B2W2 legendaries combined.

Isn't their connection to Lugia an anime-only thing? With the Sea-Spirit's Den, do we really need an explanation? I mean, what about the caves the Pixie trio were found in during B2W2, or why Heatran was suddenly in Reversal Mountain instead of Tony Stark Mountain?