Levelling up new pokemon post E4

[explicit54]

So, ever since I have beat the elite four and finished my Sinnoh Dex, I have been exploring all of the end game content, so far I have most of the legendary pokemon, Azelf, Mespirit, Uxie, Palkia, Heatran. And I'm currently training up a Wobbuffet to aid in catching Cresselia.

My problem being, what's the best way to level up a lowbie pokemon? I gave him exp share from about 3-48 but now that's not really cutting it. I thought about handing him the exp share and doing the E4 but I'm not sure I can sacrifice the spot in my lineup. And since Wobuffet is such a passive pokemon, IE no offensive attacks just counter attacks, its hard to solo with him.

(Most of my main pokemon are in their low 60's, with the exception of Heatran (71)

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks.

 

[Shuko]

Two words for ya: Pokeradar Chansey.

Seriously. Chansey gives a TON of exp, and if you manage to start up a chain of them on the Pokeradar, you'll be set. Just attach a lucky egg or the exp. share to ol' wobbie, and switch him out at the beginning of battle to a fighting Pokemon or something. Really, anything with a good physical attack will do fine with chansey.

Believe it or not, she'll give even most of the higher-level wild Pokemon a run for their money. But if anyone has better chaining suggestions, by all means, spill. In fact, if there are any wild trainers with Blissey that you can use the vs. seeker on, that's even better. ^o^

 

[explicit54]

The chansey on route 209, and 210 or, somewhere else?

 

[Shuko]

The chansey on route 209, and 210 or, somewhere else?

Those are the only wild ones I know of.

If you want, you could try happiny in the trophy garden, but chaining in there is extremely hard. xD

 

[explicit54]

Alright, thanks for clearing that up I'll probably head right over there, after I get my Tyrogue!

 

[bagi80]

ive got a tyrougue on mi emerald ill trade it to u with wifi if u want

 

[Talon87]

There are unfortunately no radarable trainers with a Chansey or Blissey in their team (the solitary trainer with a Blissey in his team is inside Victory Road); and the only radarable trainer with a Happiny on her team is north of Solaceon (directly beneath the Moomoo Milk café).

Clefable offers nice experience points as well, and there's at least one trainer with a Level 60 Clefable: the two twin girls who are also north of Solaceon. (Pikachu and Clefairy evolve after you fight the girls a few times.)

But really, I find that the best thing to do if you're up for it is to fight the rich folks directly to the left of the Pokémon Mansion south of Hearthome City and west of Pastoria City. The gentleman has a Chatot while the socialite has a Roselia, and if you equip the Luck Incense or Amulet Coin to your leader and then defeat them, they each give you $24,000 for just KO'ing one creature. Very good profits you can make there. While you're doing it, you net a little over 2000 experience points for battle. Of course, if there were such a thing as Level 60 Chansey, then this wouldn't be much -- but there's not, and there's no point in stubbornly arguing for Chansey as if there were. :| The highest level Chansey you're going to find is still below Level 30 and (therefore) doesn't award much more experience than these two folks -- and what's more, while Chansey gives you no cash, these two not only give you 2000+ experience points per one-creature battle but also award you an amazing amount of cash. Hard to beat.

If you're eager to catch a Lucky Egg or a shiny Chansey, I recommend Shuko's suggestion. If you're more eager to collect cash for purchases (e.g. 10+ of every TM that exists in the Casino and in Veilstone Department store, infinite vitamins, etc. etc.), then you can't go wrong with the old couple to the left of the Pokemon Mansion.

 

[Hubologist]

...if you equip the Luck Incense or Amulet Coin to your leader and then defeat them, they each give you $24,000 for just KO'ing one creature.

They do? O__O

I've always gotten exactly $16,000 for each of them using the Amulet Coin, and I've done nearly everything in the game. Is there something I need to do in the game to make their Pokes level up again?

 

[Tim Young]

Those are the only wild ones I know of.

If you want, you could try happiny in the trophy garden, but chaining in there is extremely hard. xD

...or you could do one better and chain Chansey in the same place.

 

[Shuko]

...or you could do one better and chain Chansey in the same place.

Yeah, I forgot about that.

And I wanna hear the answer to Hubologist's question too. I'm in the same boat. XD

 

[Talon87]

Are your Chatot and Roselia at Level 60? Let me go check just to confirm that I am getting the amount of money I claim to be -- I haven't played D/P in about one week (and haven't fought these old farts in two), so I may be remembering wrong. Don't think so though.

In the meantime, if you want to test it yourself, the item I always use is Luck Incense rather than Amulet Coin. (No particular reason.) I don't think that has anything to do with it, though.

EDIT: No, you two are crazy. I just fought Socialite Reina (Lvl 83 Staraptor @ Luck Incense vs. her Level 60 Roselia) and got myself $24000 more dollars. I knew I was right, because I've gotten used to thinking of it as "five fights nets you over $100,000" and also that "42 fights is the magic number for getting approximately $999,999," but it was better to be safe than sorry and to double-check, I guess.

EDIT #2: Just make sure you fight the two old people until both of their Pokemon are at Level 60. Though that should only take three battles. So if you have really fought them as many times as you claim to have, then I don't know what to say. Either you're forgetting to equip the Luck Incense (and are remembering the $12000 that these two award under normal conditions) or, perhaps for some bizarre reason, they award more money depending on whether it's Luck Incense or Amulet Coin (which I very much doubt :|).

Just to clarify (in case it matters), I've beaten the Elite 4 twice, am playing as a girl, and I always use Luck Incense when fighting them. Time of day doesn't matter, nor does who is holding the Incense. I am also playing Pokemon Pearl (in the unlikely event that the amount of money they award differs between the paks).

 

[Tim Young]

Yeah, I forgot about that.

And I wanna hear the answer to Hubologist's question too. I'm in the same boat. XD

I can't think of an explanation for that. The Amulet Coin and Luck Incense are functionally identical, right?

To go off on a short tangent, though this entire discussion is a tangent, are those two really the best way to earn cash?

I haven't tried Vs. Seeker much, but it seems like you have to wait a fair deal of time before anyone will want to battle again. Thus it seems like they wouldn't make a very good steady supply of cash.

 

[Talon87]

Vs. Seeker does not reactivate based on time; it reactivates based on number of steps taken. And a small number at that (100, iirc). So here's what you do.

1 - Fight the old people.
2 - Go down to the Left-Right straight path right beneath them on your Mach Bike.
3 - In Mach Mode, bike back and forth 2-3 times.
4 - Bike back up to them and use your Vs. Seeker again.
5 - Rinse and repeat.

I have made over $100,000 in well under ten minutes doing this. So I would have to say, yes, they are much more profitable than fighting the Elite 4 not just in terms of money received but also in terms of time spent. (10 minutes versus 30+.)

EDIT: I should also point out, several members (myself included) held a discussion at UPN on whether it was better to purchase Casino coins or to play the slots. After all, the slots are easier then ever, right? Well, we did the math, and in the time it takes somebody to achieve a perfect 10 bonus round session at the slots (assuming he is flawless and gets it on his first try), I can go out and make 17 times the amount of money he's made (after you do the Dollar-to-Coin conversions). 14, 17, something like that. The math came out to be an insanely significant factor. So yeah. You are much, MUCH better off purchasing coins than playing slots if you fight the Gentleman and Socialite.

 

[Hubologist]

Talon87, I never forget to equip the Luck Incense. If I do, I only get $8,000.

I've fought them with my level 86 Ho-oh MANY a time, and their Pokes are still level 40.

So, obviously there's something else going on here aside from "Shuko and Hubo are just really thick." ;-)

 

[Tim Young]

Vs. Seeker does not reactivate based on time; it reactivates based on number of steps taken. And a small number at that (100, iirc). So here's what you do.

1 - Fight the old people.
2 - Go down to the Left-Right straight path right beneath them on your Mach Bike.
3 - In Mach Mode, bike back and forth 2-3 times.
4 - Bike back up to them and use your Vs. Seeker again.
5 - Rinse and repeat.

I have made over $100,000 in well under ten minutes doing this. So I would have to say, yes, they are much more profitable than fighting the Elite 4 not just in terms of money received but also in terms of time spent. (10 minutes versus 30+.)

But I always get the message that the person isn't ready to fight again at this time.
I understand the Vs. Seeker resets quickly, but the people not so much (I thought).

EDIT: I should also point out, several members (myself included) held a discussion at UPN on whether it was better to purchase Casino coins or to play the slots. After all, the slots are easier then ever, right? Well, we did the math, and in the time it takes somebody to achieve a perfect 10 bonus round session at the slots (assuming he is flawless and gets it on his first try), I can go out and make 17 times the amount of money he's made (after you do the Dollar-to-Coin conversions). 14, 17, something like that. The math came out to be an insanely significant factor. So yeah. You are much, MUCH better off purchasing coins than playing slots if you fight the Gentleman and Socialite.

Figured as much. I don't care for this version's Casino (Where is our ever-so-easy Roulette?).

 

[Bp.]

That's interesting Talon, because I have battled them (being the old people) countless times, as a matter of fact I've trained 6 Pokémon from level one to fifty using them, and their Pokémon have remained level 40 everytime, and each of them only gives me $16000 with the amulet coin attached. How come yours are at level 60? That's interesting...

And Shuko, in the past I tried Pokéradaring Chansey in the large patch of grass just east of Hearthome, however, instead of just beating them for the experience I tried to find myself a lucky egg. I even watched your video on how to chain properly, so I guess my problem was just bad luck. Right now I have exactly 83 Chansey, 42 Oval Stones, and 0 lucky eggs. So I became frustrated and gave up...o well...

 

[Hubologist]

I'm assuming you have to beat Tower Tycoon Palmer, catch more legends, have more stars on your card, or something of that nature to get the elderly pair to level up? Because those are the only things I can think of.

I know I saw an FAQ somewhere about when, why and how trainers level up. I need to find it.

 

[Skantid]

Mine are at 60 too, they got to that level after 4 or so battles.
By the way, thank you guys for the tip, now I'm a millionaire (999,999$)!

 

[Allydawn]

You know, I've been wondering about that level 40/60 thing myself. I have two versions, one is Diamond and the other is Pearl. On my Diamond game, they went up to level 60 after only a few battles, yet on Pearl, they seem to be stuck on 40 even though I've defeated them probably at least 50 times now.

Also, I've defeated Tower Tycoon Palmer on Pearl but not on Diamond, so that can't be it. I also have a much longer playtime on Pearl and a lot more entires in the Pokedex. So does it have to do with the actual versions? Do they go up to 60 on Diamond but only to 40 on Pearl? I know that I'm doing everything else exactly the same, so I don't get what else it could be.

 

[Talon87]

Niele, mine are at Level 60 on Pearl, so between the two of us, we can confirm that they exist (potentially) at Level 60 on both Diamond and Pearl.

The fact that they are stuck at Level 40 on your copy of Pearl, plus the fact that I trust both Hubologist and Shuko having read many of their posts here this summer, confirms that there is a catch involved, somehow. They are not lying, nor am I. Some of us get rich people @ Level 60, and others only get them at Level 40.

The fact that they award $16000 @ Level 40 @ Luck Incense makes sense since they award $24000 @ Level 60 @ Luck Incense. It's proportionate. Level 20 (if it existed back when we first fought them) would probably have been $8000 @ Luck Incense.

Try putting Pokemon Emerald in your DS. I always play with Pokemon Emerald in my DS Lite. That may make a significant difference: they could be programmed to stop at Level 40 unless you put in a different game pak. Although I can't explain Niele's
predicament, since he said he's played both games (and we can assume he means on the same DS). :|

EDIT: Just to clarify, I'm not implying that if you take Emerald out they revert down to 40. (I know they don't do that.) I'm implying that perhaps Emerald being in the GBA slot might be the necessary "cheat code" or "access key" necessary to allow them to quit challenging you at Level 40 and to finally (permanently) move up the ladder to Level 60.