Links Between Mewtwo's Movies and Star Wars

[Nerdyboy]

Well really its a movie and a special - but still you know what i mean.
There seem to be so many paralles between the two subjects. Lets start with the titles. Mewtwo Strikes Back - The Empire Strikes Back. Mewtwo returns - The Return of the Jedi.

Okay this may not seen like much but look at the content. In mewtwo strikes back he creates his own army of clones, and demands them to attack - so its an Attack of the clones.
Jedis control the force and when using it their abilities seem similar to mewtwos physchic abilities.

In the end of MSB Mewtwo and his clones travel to find a place where they can live by themselves in peace. They end up finding the island in the crater in Mewtwo returns. By living here they are filled with A New Hope of a peaceful life.

During the events of MR Giovanni (the man who created mewtwo - not physically but it was because of him) sets out to get revenge and recapture mewtwo. Because of this powerful man mewtwo turned evil. And due to Giovanni's actions in MR he destroys almost all that is good in Mewtwo's life - his peaceful life. Vague Similarities to Revenge of the Sith

At the end of MR Mewtwo leaves his island and creaps and sneaks through the world - almost as if he doesnt exist. Very similar to a Phantom. Now this is probably the worst connection to a title but, in the beginnging of MSB Mewtwo was a menance - theirs no denieing that. So if you put how he was at the end of the Saga with how he was at the beginning you get - The Phantom Menace

Do you see any other links?

 

[Ho-oh]

Should this topic even be here?

 

[Dogasu]

I think you're reading too much into this.

Besides, the Japanese titles aren't similar to the Star Wars movie titles at all. "Myuutwo Strikes Back" is pretty much the exact same title as the Japanese version of the second Godzilla movie ("Godzilla Strikes Back"), and the translated Japanese title for the TV special is simply "Myuutwo - I'm Here."

 

[oddball walking]

Just about any book, film, show or play of any kind can draw some kind of link to Star Wars. Also you could say the is a strong link to Harry Potter, if you looked hard enough.

So the point to this is...?

 

[JB88]

Star Wars isn't even the first one to think it up, is it?

 

[ashfangirl]

Well, it makes sense.

I mean, there's huge similarities between Fullmetal Alchemist and Harry Potter, so why not this?

Ok, I see what u mean, I guess.

Epic fight scenes, uh, lazers........

Giovanni: Ash, I am your father.
Ash: That was NOT in the script.
Misty: Just read your lines, Luke.
Ash: What did you call me?
Misty: Nothing.


Mewtwo: The force is weak with this one.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Hmm, in just a glance at the evidence, Mewtwo's movie does look like it pulled off alot of stuff from Star Wars. But knowing your stuff well does put you in a good position to answer back.

Yes, there are some similarities... but not much....

Well, for the titles, "Return of something" is a common title found in many movies (although
The Star Wars one was most memorable). Next, the English Title of the movie may be so but it was actually "Mewtwo's Counter attack!" in the original 1998 Japanese release.

The Star wars clones are all the same guy repeated many times, Mewtwo stole many different from the trainers he lured in. The clones are actually improved to becom Super- Clones. Then the clones attack the originals. - very un-Star wars like.

C'mon, Mewtwo's powers surpass any Jedi's. Heck even X-men's Jean Grey can't match him!
The New hope and Sith things are really really weakly connected to the M.R. Special. As you said it yourself - vague.

Might I add that Star Wars has a Japanese connection?
George Lucas was reported to have got the very idea of Star Wars from watching a film from Japanese director Akira Kurosawa. His movie: "The Hidden Fortress" about a samurai saving a princess is widely acknowledged as the source of Star Wars.

Dang, the idea that Star Wars was a Japanese ripoff won't go down well with many millions of people. But hey, it's true!
Anyway, If a Japanese originated film has some similarities to a Japanese animated film, I wouldn't be surprised.

However, It is excellent to see someone being into the Mewtwo Trilogy.
Plus, If you wish to see an animated film that heavily borrows from Star Wars, I recommend that you check out the 1986 Transformers movie. Heck they even have light sabers in that one!

P.S. As of this post, I have finally achieved my 100th post mark on Bulbagarden.
This moment is really special to me and I thank all those who have helped me on the way. May I continue to post actively in times to come and may Bulbagarden be even more active and fun than it is today.

 

[ShadowDeeps]

Ok, I see what u mean, I guess.

Epic fight scenes, uh, lazers........

Giovanni: Ash, I am your father.
Ash: That was NOT in the script.
Misty: Just read your lines, Luke.
Ash: What did you call me?
Misty: Nothing.


Mewtwo: The force is weak with this one.

:lol: Hahahaha, that's so gold (in my personal opinion). And for me, the in jest thing is, I can imagine it going down just like that without a window into fail (though I'd have to openly concede that if any solo concept in Pokémon draws to having similarities to The Force in Star Wars, it's Aura, in spite of Aura not necessarily being a magical idea of elements).

That aside, one could bear to a great many findings of similarities between Star Wars and Pokémon (one that sedulously comes to mind for me is neither series requiring violence nor forced politics to convey an agreed point... but when something is gratuitously flawed enough [IMO], the violence stops mattering in my eyes). Or any such show, for many series out there tend to have a conglomeration of themes and points of talks that aren't an afar cry away from one to the other. I have, however, contemplated this school of thought for a long time. And though it doesn't work in relation to the thread at issue directly, I'd like to bring in my own take of a peering similarity I noticed between a select scene in The Empire Strikes Back and a certain episode of Pokémon (The Mandarin Island Mismatch, or Episode 101), if I may be so brazen. In these scenes, both of the main protagonists (Ash Ketchum and Luke Skywalker) are cantankerous to work at the advice of wiser teachers (Prima and Yoda). Both teachers continue to strongly stress that rather than work with sheer volumes of physical strength and brusque, brute will with lightning-speed, in lieu of such, it takes a certain harmony with nature (or rather, life) to just be and know (not to call attention to yourself, but to reach your height of potential whilst being in harmony with the concurably empyrean nature of life). This thereby can be construed into eliciting prospect:

Luke Skywalker (after trying to use The Force to lift his X-wing out of the Swamp on Dagobah, panting heavily): "I can't. It's too big."

Yoda (casting his gaze around tranquilly but with sad lips as he beams deeply stern eyes at Luke and all around him, also grabbing at Luke to convey his point of conversation about "crude matter" vs. "luminous beings"): "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well, you should not. For my ally is The Force. And a powerful ally it is. Life creates it... makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us.... combines us. Luminous beings are we! Not this crude matter! You must *feel* The Force around you! Here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere. Yes. Even between the land and the ship."

Luke Skywalker (standing up and about to walk away): "You are the impossible..."

And from Episode 101 (I should say before inserting this that I know this is dub dialogue structure; what the original intended context embellished out is something I don't know as I don't know what was said in the original Japanese format):

Prima (in her house): "I try to behave like water."

Ash Ketchum: "What do you mean, Prima?"

Prima (smiling and closing her eyes somewhat, beginning to traverse outside, towards the ocean): "When I'm not battling, I try to go with the flow. But as soon as a battle begins, I become as unforgiving as ice. Then I melt right back and flow on. Hmm. A trainer can be successful with any number of styles. But the most important thing - the most important thing, is knowing - really knowing - where your true strength lies."

Ash Ketchum (beginning to assume a fierce expression, with Misty and Tracy following): "Good. Cause I'm strong. Real strong!"

Prima: "That's good. But to become a Pokémon master, you need a different kind of strength."

Ash Ketchum: "Yeah? What kind of strength is that?"

Prima: "The strength that comes from inside. And with that strength, you can share your heart with your Pokémon."

Tracy (clamping his eyes shut peacefully as a gentle smile passes across his face) "I can almost... FEEL what you mean."

Ash Ketchum: "Ms. Prima? Let's have a Pokémon battle! Now!"

I find the two scenes to be cognate in that they have two impetuous, demanding, and impatient characters (or the main characters, being the heroes of the story) failing to see that by "willing" everything to happen (instead of letting things come as they have to creation; as they are had most patiently through hard but accepting work, like high art about air) without premeditation, consideration, and being at deep peace with themselves and life, that they will rudimentarily fail. And in a way, it's rather the concurred quirk of intuition and what is to happen that allows one to perceive that which is felt to be dangerous. I think that's an exigent foundation for many of these issues that both characters face.

I also find many similar traits between Ash and Luke, now that I think about it. Both set about whatever they do with great fervor but an unbreakable will (as they don't stop until they succeed, or ever), and they act before they think. Both are landing a great journey in which they are out to reach the achieving of something immense. For Ash Ketchum, it's to become a Pokémon master as he travels about the world of Pokémon with his friends and own Pokémon (training them, lucidly), battling and what not. For Luke Skywalker, it's becoming a Jedi master, learning how to us the Force, and fighting for his friends, loved ones, and for what is left of the Rebellion and peace as the Empire continues to drawl forth their dominion. Both characters have to farewell the initial homes from whence they came in order to do this, but in clarionly different subjects of circumstances. Luke's hand was forced: before he could depart from home with Obi-Wan Kenobi, the Empire came down and leveled his Uncle, Aunt, and home (as well as many of the bystanders of Tatooine, or the barren planet they all resided on then). Ash left Pallet Town of his own volition, but huger worlds awaited both protagonists (as Obi-Wan Kenobi says in A New Hope: "You've taken your first step into a larger world.") as they sent them aloft.

It's not to reprimand either character, though (but rather allow them to dawn anew in their positives). They are warmhearted and amiable and they aren't totally fighting for themselves in the end but for others. The above is of their choice. They're both intensity of persona. Here also happen to be a number of quotes that I feel ring of similarity:

Prima: "The Sun feels like an old friend."

Prima: "Shh. Just listen. The wind is speaking."

Ash Ketchum: "The Wind can wait! I want a Pokémon battle, now!"

Ash Ketchum: "Forget about the Ocean, will ya!? Let's have a battle!"

Ash Ketchum: "Who cares, let's battle!"

Ash Ketchum: "Come on, let's go!"

Prima: "The sea and the sky, one reflecting the other."

Luke Skywalker: "How could you know my father? You don't even know who I am! Oh, I don't even know what I'm doing here! We're wasting our time!"

I also find it interesting how in some of the scenes above, both Prima and Yoda tend to be deliberately prolonging and testing Ash and Luke (respectively) as the persona of both characters gives rise to grave impatience (and both Prima and Yoda are obviously rather unimpressed by what they garner of Ash and Luke's display of impatience [respectively] and impudence, which is why they do the above). Of course, I could be reading too much into this (if you think there is such a thing) but it's all in good fun. I'm sure you could draw similarities between many other series like this. But these are ones that have protruded in my nexus of thought for some time.

Though, to be more on-topic and end the roundabout verbose... I don't quite see that many traits that aren't dissimilar between Movie 1 and TESB outside of the title. The same goes for the Mewtwo Johto special, in a way. But I find it more similar in that it goes to show that much like Star Wars (and even LOTR) does, that industrialism is the blight of nature (in consensus) and that being human (however altercatable) does not make the "raping" of the planet's resources good for necessity, adhering to consensus. I'm sure some could be observed but to reiterate, it's all in fun of speculation and thinking.