Mac vs. PC: FIGHT!

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I have HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT with my PC. I've been considering buying a Mac as my next computer. Does anyone here have a Mac? Do you love it, or does it make you want to die? Is there anyone here that has gone from PC to Mac, and if so, how did it go?
 
I've been a Mac owner for the past 6 years. My first one was an iMac Graphite G3 and last year I bought one of the new iMacs with an Intel Core Duo processor.

Macs are fast, reliable and they dont get viruses and spyware as much (or at all) as PCs do, but they're pretty expensive.
 
I agree with pokejungle about the GUI. I can never use those bedamned things. I've never used a Linux before. Never seen one in fact. Also, Macs don't get as many viruses because people tend to aim towards Windows because of popularity, not because of improved security.
 
Mac's GUI is fine, it's got that over simplification factor in which they make it so easy it can feel complicated to others. One benefit to apple it comes with a lot more included programs (other than what Kasumi said), that one of the main reason why it's great for artistic purposes. The mouse is one button, but you can put in a two-button mouse if you want to, and with the intell macs you can install other operating systems like linux and windows.

For Linux... it'll feel like a cross between a sun computer and a windows computer... (well, depending on the version... but for simplicity) It's really more for "programmers" or those in the tech know because it gives the user a lot of administrative control and it uses a terminal for many tasks. The positive to it is that like Mac, it's not popular enough to get attention, also most things tend to be free on Lunix due to other indy programmers making software for it. The problem with that is more professional companies tend to not make software for it. So it'll be hard to find the games you want and such.

As for windows... yeah, everybody seems to know already:
+it's most popular
+most things work for it
+a lot of tech support (making fixing them computers that run it cheaper,opposed to macs)
+comes with most computers bought in store
-Because it's popular, most viruses and spyware made for it
-everything cost extra
-extra features doing things you may not want hogging up your processor
 
Ever since Apple ditched the PowerPC processor in favor of the x86, I tend to look at Macs as glorified PCs that are allowed to run Mac OS X.

The only thing preventing anyone from installing Mac OS X on a beige box PC is (1) The EULA says not to (2) there are no Mac OS X drivers for commodity hardware.
 
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That stings doesnt it? Lets see if I can find another one...
 
:lol: That's hilarious. Personally, I grow tired of those dumbass Macintosh commercials. It's a wonder how they don't get in trouble with them.
 
Macs are great, fast and reliable, the os is stupid easy to use, and if you don't like the os, just install a different one on it.
 
Who the hell is Tim Buckely?

Yet more hilarity about apple commercials: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jixb...hebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

And, for a fun read about how sucky macs are: http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

I mean, who ever thought of having only one mousebutton? And those blue jelly like buttons that macs have, are much uglier then the Windows ones. Not that Windows is that good either. I think pretty much no operating system is that good... Enjoy:
 
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First I need to know why you've had it with your PC.

Then I'll tell you if you need to just get a new pc or a mac(highly doubt.)
 
Well, I've had PCs since before I can remember and I've never had a mac, but the thing is, my PCs have all crashed at one point or another for no good reason and my family ended up having to buy 500 dollars worth of repairs because the Dell service guys told us too, having to hook all of that crap up and then having it not work and then having the tech guys going, "oh now I see what happened, well, you'll need a new computer then!" And meanwhile my family's going like, "wow, thanks for having us blow 600 dollars on nothing."

So right now I'm on a computer that one of the tech. guys built and it's pretty fast. However, this is only because I've been extremely cautious to download anything out of fear of getting a virus and there is barely any software on here. Well, software that I put on here . . there's tons of crap programs that comes with Windows, but hey.

Then, my best friends both got Macs for their graduation presents (and I guess it's kind of fitting to what that article The Third Mew posted said, one of them won best dressed out of a class of 600) and I know they both love it. Initally, my one friend said it was kind of difficult to figure out, but that was only because she had always been with a PC and while the Mac only has one button on the mouse, it's no big deal because there are substitute buttons for it on the keyboard. She said it's fast and reliable and it comes with some Windows programs that everybody really utilizes (i.e. Word, Powerpoint, etc.) . . she said it's a very good computer if you're just using it for recreational purposes (not including games) like creating photos, vidoes, movies, etc.

So, when I'm graduating, the laptop I'm getting is going to be a Mac, but that's just me XDD

(oh and for that article the Third Mew posted, that error screen on iTunes isn't because of Mac . . he was on a PC, so obviously that was the PC having trouble with the program. I get that the program in question is a Mac made program, but still . . it doesn't really seem right. Also, I don't know what that guys talking about . . when you download iTunes, it gives you a choice on what to download and it downloads quicktime with it because that's the program that iTunes uses to play movies . . )
 
I'm with the "this isn't a battle of good versus evil, get over it" crowd... and I'm working on a comp. sci. major. Is that a bad thing? :<

No, really, I use both Mac and PC all the time. I use a PC for my personal computer, because I'm more familiar with the system and so when ordering it I understood the PC offers better. I looked into getting a Mac, but really, I had to research comparisons for just the basic stuff to understand "this is basically just the same thing with a different name"... so I ordered a PC for my college computer instead. *shrug*

As far as users go? I think the main difference I've seen is that PCs owners are okay with admitting their technology isn't perfect. I dunno how extensive that goes, though.
 
I like PC's better because of one thing, I have the freedom to mess with my hardware as I please, and do what I want with my system. I also don't like pre-built computers, and I don't need a "professional" version.

In any case I have to use PC's, as I'm a computer engineer in college. What does that have to do with not using Macs? Simple.

1. Most of the programming and labs in class is done in a Windows or Linux environment, in fact there are no Macs in the engineering computer labs.
2. Most of the world uses PC's anyway, I'd have a better chance at getting jobs if I knew more about PC related OS's and hardware than I did on Apple's.
3. Application wise, most people use either Windows or Linux, and a majority of those in the IT world who switch out of Windows go to Linux. Apple really has no where to go in this market, because Linux is still free, there's a lot of support (albeit free too) for it, and it's tried and true as a great server OS.

But you know what? The only thing that really separates an Apple machine from anyone else's is the OS.
 
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1. Most of the programming and labs in class is done in a Windows or Linux environment, in fact there are no Macs in the engineering computer labs.
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VERY true. I see a lot of Macs around my college campus - they're in the hallways for quick internet browsing, and the professor I work for has a big one in her office for some program or another - but the computer labs are 100% Windows.
 
Mac user here, but this is the general feeling of Macs vs PCs from a large Australian Apple form.

"If you like Windows, go with Windows. If you like Macs, go with Macs. If you like Linux, go with Linux."

Whatever you go with, dude, research, research, research. Ask around Apple and Windows chatrooms, get their opinion. Ignore the ones that go "OOH, APPLZ SUKX N NIBODI WHO UZSZ DEM DSRVES TEW DIE!", of course.

But eh, if it was me? Mac, all the way. But it ain't for myself, though, so...
 
I like PCs because they are cheaper. Macintoshes are overpriced, and anything else Apple puts out is overpriced. I use my PSP for video and music as well as gaming and homebrew apps. I had once reviewed the latest IPod video for a website using my friend's sister's IPod video and I had said that it isn't worth the price Apple is charging for it. RCA and Creative Labs make video and audio players that are just as good as the IPod video and for less money. My Dell laptop is just as powerful as a high end Macintosh and is 1/4 of the price of a Macintosh.
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I'm a Comp Sci PhD student. Personally, I'm comfortable on just about any OS other than Windows. This is probably because just about any other OS is a UNIX derivative. Mac OS X, various Linux distributions, BSDs, Solaris, whatever. They're all approximately the same once you open up a terminal window.

For my own personal use, I prefer to have a Mac on my bedroom desk. In the lab I mostly use Solaris and Linux. In my office there is a Windows machine, but I don't have much say on that since it isn't "my office" per se. Unless there is a pressing reason not to, I usually open an X11 session to one of the Solaris servers when working in there.

For other people? Hell if I care what you use. Most programs I write would run on Windows if I bothered to try it there, but I won't go out of my way to make Windows-friendly stuff. That's a bad habit I don't want to acquire.

Despite that, people still ask me what kind of computer to get on occasion. I usually do recommend a Mac. Especially if they want a laptop, in which case upgrade paths aren't really that much of an issue. Why recommend a Mac? Today's Macs are, as has been pointed out, not much more than glorified PCs with the special power of being able to run Mac OS X. If this person is asking me for help picking out a computer, they are likely going to ask me for help when it needs maintenance. I won't lie: Macs do sometimes need maintenance. Just not quite at the level that most Windows installations do. It helps that in the event that an OS reinstall is necessary, additional drivers are not normally necessary, and the install process is fairly friendly.
In the event that our buyer is feeling adventurous and gets the Mac, they can then install Parallels Desktop and their Windows OS of choice to be able to run most of their familiar Windows software. If they really come to despise OSX, they can dump it all together and use Windows as their only OS on their still-spiffy laptop or desktop. And of course if they got really curious they could install just about any OS known to man on there.

But what about teh gamez and such? Like I said before, hell if I care. If you did get the Mac, some popular games run on OSX natively (World of Warcraft, eventually Starcraft 2, etc) while others should work perfectly if you boot to Windows. Parallels is working on making video acceleration work even when Windows is running virtualized alongside OSX, so there might not even be need to reboot. But more to the point, if you're a gamer then you're not going to ask me about this in the first place. You're going to go to Newegg or wherever kids get their stuff these days and order exactly the parts you want. I'm fine with my Wii and my DS at the moment, thanks. Though I may want an upgrade when Starcraft 2 comes out...

In summary, if you have to ask what to get, a Mac might be good for you. If you don't have to ask what to get, then you already know what is good for you. Probably.
 
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