Major characters in the anime who have yet to enter a Contest

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Contests have been around in the anime for over 250 episodes now, and we've been through about 20 of them so far. Aside from the two main girl coordinators, the writers have sometimes had other main characters enter Contests just for the hell of it.

We've had Jessie, Meowth, Ash and even Brock all in Contests at some point or another. But what major characters haven't entered Contests that you'd like to see?

- James. Pretty obvious choice, and its actually wierd that after all this time he hasn't entered one. Instead of lending Jessie his Pokemon, I'd like to see James enter a Contest for once. His flamboyant style seems a perfect fit for Contests, and unlike Jessie he's shown himself to be a much more competent battler. Will we ever get to see him enter one?

- Paul. LMAO, could you imagine him doing one? I think just for laughs it would be fun to see him try his hand at appeals and battling in the Contest style.

- Gary. An unlikely choice overall seeing as how we rarely see him, but just worth mentioning.

- Misty. The only main girl who isn't a coordinator. But like Gary, its unlikely she'll ever be in one due to the fact that we barely see her anymore. Still, water Pokemon work well in Contests as seen by Squirtle and Piplup, so who knows...maybe such an event might happen one day.

- Mr. Contesta and Sukizo...how would the judges themselves fare in a Contest?

Who would you like to see enter one that hasn't so far?
 
Koujirou - Maybe, but it's doubtful. He may be the more competent battler, but that's exactly what would prevent the writers from placing him in one. Musashi already tends to skirt the line between winning and losing enough as is. I'd be more interested in seeing him try his hand at Gym Battles, to be honest.

Shinji - I could really see some great humor coming from this. It's definitely not his style, so it'd be interesting to see how he fairs. I'd also really like to see more of the comparison between Gym-Style and Contest-Style Battling.

Hanako - Am I the only one who could see her and Barrierd cleaning house?

Natane - Her style could work well and I think more than a few of her Grass Pokemon would do really well.

On the other hand, I really want to see Naoshi do a Gym Battle soon, especially if he functions as a rival during the Shinou League Competition.
 
I'd love to see James in a contest.

But yes, I second Delia. Although she'd need a second pokemon for it, but I can see her telling Ash that she needs to borrow Pikachu for it.
 
I can just imagine Delia performing an appeal with Mr. Mime. Having him use psychic to sweep up the contest hall, wipe the windows, and fold the laundry.

The crowd would eat it up.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Paul was good at contests. He seems to be very methodical about his battling style, so he'd at least be able to put together an appeal that shows the accuracy and power of his Pokémon.
 
Scott85 said:
Contests have been around in the anime for over 250 episodes now, and we've been through about 20 of them so far. Aside from the two main girl coordinators, the writers have sometimes had other main characters enter Contests just for the hell of it.

We've had Jessie, Meowth, Ash and even Brock all in Contests at some point or another. But what major characters haven't entered Contests that you'd like to see?

- James. Pretty obvious choice, and its actually wierd that after all this time he hasn't entered one. Instead of lending Jessie his Pokemon, I'd like to see James enter a Contest for once. His flamboyant style seems a perfect fit for Contests, and unlike Jessie he's shown himself to be a much more competent battler. Will we ever get to see him enter one?

- Paul. LMAO, could you imagine him doing one? I think just for laughs it would be fun to see him try his hand at appeals and battling in the Contest style.

- Gary. An unlikely choice overall seeing as how we rarely see him, but just worth mentioning.

- Misty. The only main girl who isn't a coordinator. But like Gary, its unlikely she'll ever be in one due to the fact that we barely see her anymore. Still, water Pokemon work well in Contests as seen by Squirtle and Piplup, so who knows...maybe such an event might happen one day.

- Mr. Contesta and Sukizo...how would the judges themselves fare in a Contest?

Who would you like to see enter one that hasn't so far?
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umm... about that post, Technically, Misty DID enter a contest at one point. It was the episode "Princess vs. Princess". I mean, most of the characters called it a contest, It had many similarities to pokemon contests, and besides which, even if it isn't a true Pokemon Contest, it sure seemed like one. Which, under a technicality, also makes Misty the first female heroine (Not Sidekick, because she did far more stuff that's protagonist and herioneistic than sidekickish, and besides which, Bulbapedia counted her as a protagonist and hero) to do contests, and not May as popular belief dictates.

In fact, some of the fanbase, when the Cosplay contest ep. aired, noticed that it had several similarities to pokemon contests (they even went as far as to say that the exact same judges from the regular pokemon contests resumed their jobs), so if they were able to note similarities between the two, they can still do the exact same with regular contests and "The Queen of the Princess festival contest".

And besides, even before he had his contest with May, Brock also had a "Pokemon Contest" so to speak (Beauty and the Breeder), in fact, TV.com's episode guide, and even Bulbapedia's article on it noted that the contest he participated in was extremely similar to Pokemon Contests.

well, anyways, onto the topic... Well, I think that they should try their hand with James (I'm not sure that the Orienteering Contest quite counts, and I don't think the episode summaries say that James participated in the Cosplay contest.)

Maybe Delia as well, but I'm not entirely sure about that.

anyways, thats all for now.
 
There weren't any appeals in those events, making them not Contests.
 
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A Pokemon Contest is different than a beauty contest, or an orientiering challenge. As Scott pointed out, Pokemon Contests have two rounds: the appeal round, where competitors show off the skill and beauty of their Pokemon's moves, and the battle round, where those moves are applied to a battle situation. The winner of a contest also receives a Ribbon as a prize, which when accumulated with four others from the same region, allows the competitor entrance into the Grand Festival, which is a parallel to the League for the Gym challenge. You don't win a dollhouse from a contest (although you can win a huge supply of bananas).
 
Scott85 said:
There weren't any appeals in those events, making them not Contests.
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I'll agree with you on the Breeder convention and the Cosplay Contest part. But I'll really have to beg to differ with the "Queen of the Princess festival contest" one. I mean, wasn't that part involving the girls showing themselves off in kimonos supposed to be the "Appeal Round" of sorts? I mean, It seemed to imply that it was an appeal round due to these lines:

MC: now will all contestants release their pokeballs...
Misty: Huh? You want us to Battle?
Jessie: You mean this Isn't just a beauty contest?
MC: Oh, no, young miss, the winner of the Princess Festival contest must ALSO be a skilled pokemon trainer!
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See this? That seemed to imply that this Kimono beauty part was only just the appeal round. which means that, even if it didn't have the pokemon doing the appeals, it was still very much an appeal round.

Besides which, they even had the exact same pokemon party limit that Pokemon Contests/Grand Festivals have (They made it quite clear in that episode that the competitor of that contest can carry up to four pokemon, the EXACT same pokemon limit that Pokemon contests have.)

And anyways, who says that Gen III created pokemon contests? for all we know, It could have just incorporated them into the games. I mean, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened, and It most certainly won't be the last. I mean, they had Ho-Oh appear in the anime, almost a year and a half before it's actual debut onto the games. They had Brock being a breeder despite the mere fact that the breeder class of trainer (much less the entire concept of Breeding as a whole) wasn't even created in the games at that point. The move Tickle (first used in "Who gets to keep Togepi?") wasn't even a move in the games yet, shadow ball and (technically) rollout as well. Shinies were made in Gen II and yet they featured a pink butterfree before that (yes, I know that it technically wasn't a shiny, but it definitely was pretty close to one as one can get.). Double battles were introduced in third generation, and that never stopped the writers from debuting it in the Orange Islands. heck, even pokemon's pokedex entries were influenced by the anime (Psyducks pokedex entry in Red and Blue, as well as it's pokedex entry from Yellow onwards comes to mind).

Basically, My point is that the Game creators could have implemented Pokemon contests because of Princess Vs. Princess, and believe me, it isn't the first time they did something like this, and it most certainly won't be the last time.

Oh, and Matkins, who says that the pokemon contest prizes only have to be Ribbons and Bananas? for all we know, there could have been more prizes than just that.

whew! that was quite a lot of things I have had to say.

well, on topic, well. I've already stated my views, so... well, James didn't really get a chance to be in a contest, and Delia may need to do one.

anyways, thats all for now...
 
I could have sworn that since Legend of Thunder came out before AG, I thought that Marina was sort of an inspiration for a "coordinator" and Pokemon contests. She said that she wanted to be an idol trainer, which was basically prancing around with her Pokemon looking cute and powerful, and that's basically what being in a contest is. Hell, she's even been shown to be a Top Corodinator in DP41.

But to answer the question, I'm sure that James will enter a contest soon, maybe he gets tired of Jessie losing all the time and decides to try his hand with Mime Jr.
 
I can't really imagine Paul in a contest, all I can imagine is him either thinking of coordinators and the whole contest scene as an utterly useless waste of time only idiots would even consider participating in, or he'll enter but end up abusing his Pokémon in front of the crowd/judges and be promptly disqualified.

But I'm not saying I don't want this to happen, it'll just be amusing to see though.
 
PDL said:
I can't really imagine Paul in a contest, all I can imagine is him either thinking of coordinators and the whole contest scene as an utterly useless waste of time only idiots would even consider participating in, or he'll enter but end up abusing his Pokémon in front of the crowd/judges and be promptly disqualified.

But I'm not saying I don't want this to happen, it'll just be amusing to see though.
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Yeah, but of course it would be funny as hell to see, huh?

He'd probably fail the appeal round. :p
 
I'd love to see Paul enter in a contest that would be too funny. Maybe Ash enters in one agian for some reason, Paul makes fun of him and calls him a looser for entering in contests. Than Ash could challange Paul to enter in one too and they have a match in the contest with Ash winning that round since he's been in far more. Than we have one win for Ash agianst Paul but in contests, than the next win will be in battle. James would be neat, maybe it could be a three way thing between Ash/James/Paul that would be neat.
 
You know I just watched the Chronicles episode "Showdown at the Oak corral" where Delia uses Mr. Mime to battle Butch/Cassidy...and she actually handled it well. She could probably do a decent job in a Contest.

Was that the first time we ever saw Delia battle? I didn't think she knew how, but she ordered it to use Light screen as a defense and double slap as an attack.
 
We should see Johanna do one. Not in a flashback or dream sequence, either. Otherwise, James and Delia would be good ones. Tracey could be interestingly lame to watch as well.
 
Weedle Mchairybug said:
See this? That seemed to imply that this Kimono beauty part was only just the appeal round. which means that, even if it didn't have the pokemon doing the appeals, it was still very much an appeal round.
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You're stretching. Big time. Standing in a kimono =/= well-practiced stunts involving the use of superpowered monsters in creative ways. Of course, springing such a rule at the very end like that is also incredibly cheap (not to mention unfair to, oh, anyone who wants a career that does not involve violence), but we saw neither hide nor hair of the time limits or the infamous points score - indeed, the only similarities are that there are two rounds with the second being battling and that both exist to hurt Brock.
 
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Shooting Ristar said:
You're stretching. Big time. Standing in a kimono =/= well-practiced stunts involving the use of superpowered monsters in creative ways. Of course, springing such a rule at the very end like that is also incredibly cheap (not to mention unfair to, oh, anyone who wants a career that does not involve violence), but we saw neither hide nor hair of the time limits or the infamous points score - indeed, the only similarities are that there are two rounds with the second being battling and that both exist to hurt Brock.
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Sooo... Just because there weren't any pokemon doing stylish moves, It isn't an appeal round? No offense, but that's crazy talk. By your logic, then the pokemon contests in the games weren't really contests since they don't have battle rounds. Besides, If they say (or at least imply) that it was an appeal round, that's good enough for me. Besides, are you sure that they didn't have a time limit or points? I mean, yes, they didn't SHOW them, but that doesn't necessarily MEAN that it didn't happen. besides, Misty and Jessie did seem to be in a bit of a hurry in terms of beating them (even with battles in the first season of this show), so for all we know, they could have been on a time limit. Also, they seem to comment on her battling style, so, it could have very well been a point factor there (and believe me, It's nothing like how they commentate in league matches). Also, Jessie DID have Bad Memories of the contests/Princess Festival (She explicitly stated it herself), and she also had an (Implied) bad experience in Hoenn when she was young (I don't know if she had stated that she had a bad experience in there or not, but you guys seemed to mention it quite a bit). For all we know, putting two and two together, the Princess Festival things could have been those experiences.

And about my stretching it, If I were stretching it, I would have said that Misty's shopping line earlier in the episode was a reference to contests (because they have absolutely no corollation to each other, and THAT is what people usually mean by someone "stretching it"), The quote from the episode on a previous post actually had corollation between it and contests, so I doubt it was even close to stretching it anyways.

and no offense to your points, I was just stating my rationale.

Well, in regards to the topic. Well, Delia could get her Mr. Mime to create a mirror of sorts using it's barrier technique. James might probably get his carnivine to bite him on the head to pass the appeal round (If Jessie was able to pass an Appeal round just by having Carnivine biting her head [even if it wasn't what she planned], I'm pretty sure that James might be able to do it as well.)
 
One character I *wouldn't* want to see in a contest, even though she's supposed to be a master at them in the games, is Daisy/May Oak. Because to introduce her on the show this late in the game would be a massive shoehorning.

But I bring it up because I wouldn't put it past the writers to *do* it.
 
True. Makes me wonder how the dub would handle her name too since its shared with two other characters, Misty's sister and May, the first coordinator on the show!

Although given how little we see of Gary anymore I guess bringing his sister in this late is unlikely. I could see it happening if Gary ever becomes a major character again, but he's still rather minor at this point.
 
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