Moves that become ridiculous in context

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If this thread has been done before, apologies.

I've been astonished by Pokemon using Sunny Day--or worse, Rain Dance--inside caves. I've been frustrated by Pokemon using Dive while on top of ice sheets or land, and/or using Dig on water. And I'm sure everyone's been disturbed by Miltanks that use Milk Drink.

What other moves sound bizarre in certain situations?
 
Dig in a water route, thunder while sunny day is activated, and my favorite, fly in a freaking Pokemon Center.
 
Iteru said:
Clear Sky (Jap name) implies no clouds, which Thunder needs. So it is indeed ridiculous in context.
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Well, clouds aren't necessary for lightning. Atmospheric electrostatic discharge can occur on a relatively clear day, due to smog, or dust, or some sort of particulate matter that would still be around even during clear skies. Theoretically, the Pokemon would be producing the charge differential anyway.
 
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Champion Lance said:
Well, clouds aren't necessary for lightning. Atmospheric electrostatic discharge can occur on a relatively clear day, due to smog, or dust, or some sort of particulate matter that would still be around even during clear skies.
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There are clearly clouds in the animation so it seems as if that is what they are going for.
 
Iteru said:
There are clearly clouds in the animation so it seems as if that is what they are going for.
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Animations aren't always correct. Accord to Gen 4, Heat Wave is just a hot gust of wind blowing through the area instead of heated breaths.
 
Spiny said:
Animations aren't always correct. Accord to Gen 4, Heat Wave is just a hot gust of wind blowing through the area instead of heated breaths.
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Jap name is "Hot Wind". Does the Japanese description mention anything to do with breath? If it does then your point is valid. If it doesn't then your point is invalid.
 
Sunny Day or Rain Dance would be more like a simulation of that weather, so it makes sense on insides and doesn't have the world-ending consequences Kyogre and Groudon have, which are causing that weather so it also makes sense that wherever they are displays it too.

Using terrain-based moves in the wrong place though is quite unnexplicable. Water types get away by saying that they can summon water first, so they break the ground which would then be flooded and do something similar to dig. But the other way around... yeah.

Most other moves would involve the pokemon making some creative use of its body. In case it is ultimately impossible (metronome), materialize something with it that does the move. Actually, considering the lucky nature of metronome, I like to think that it causes a coincidence that something happens that has the effect of the attack.

As for thunder, I think the clouds are more like summoned on the enemy pokemon instead of taken from the sky. It's obviously easier to do that when there is already a storm than on a perfectly clear weather, which is why it altogether fails.


It's an RPG. Summoning and supernatural powers, specially for the stronger attacks, is a cliche.
 
EQuake inside/at top of buildings, at a high floor, like on the top of Goldenrod Radio Tower.
Any fire/electric moves underwater.
Surf in a Volcano -_-
Flash when used by a Jynx
 
No one has said this yet?

Exploding Snorlax.

Also, Trick Room sounds really trippy
 
Ryuutakesh! said:
No one has said this yet?

Exploding Snorlax.
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Or Selfdestructing Wailord. In fact Snorlax also gets Selfdestruct, not Explosion. But the blue whale-inspired Pokémon wins anyway.

Champion Lance said:
Well, clouds aren't necessary for lightning. Atmospheric electrostatic discharge can occur on a relatively clear day, due to smog, or dust, or some sort of particulate matter that would still be around even during clear skies. Theoretically, the Pokemon would be producing the charge differential anyway.
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There are clouds in Thunder's animation just because that's the most common thing you can appreciate happening when there's a collision between a positively charged agent and a strong negative manifestation from the lightning's environment (and it's easier to get the charge differential with a water agent). In this particular case, Sunny Day and Thunder were not designed with the thought of a unique battle animation (as many other moves, of course: one exception is Light Screen/Reflect and then 'shattering' them with Brick Break) when they were both interacting at the same time. And unless in future games they take into account things such as dust, volcanic ashes, pyroclastic flows or the hot generated by a nearby fire (the conditions of the battlefield environment that's it), the animation will remain fixed as it is.

Iteru said:
Jap name is "Hot Wind". Does the Japanese description mention anything to do with breath? If it does then your point is valid. If it doesn't then your point is invalid.
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Speaking about it, it doesn't make much of a sense that while a good part of the Pokémon which sport wings or have powers related to the wind learn Heat Wave via Move Tutor, some of them don't merely because they're Water or Bug-type (Pelipper and Yanmega come to my mind). The 'moisture' or type-effectiveness explanation that you could give to those cases is broken apart when there are Pokémon that can have some 'non-sense' moves (Fire Punch for Ludicolo and Jirachi, for example).
 
Magikarp using Splash while not near any water.
Surf/EQ inside a building.
Fire move on a grassy field/forest/building.

Etc

And then there is Draco Meteor...which really bothers me when it hits anywhere..THEY ARE METEORS wtf -___-
 
Splash is just the pokemon flopping (why do you think pokemon like wynaut can learn it)

How do you use dig in a building? (tyranitar used dig...OH MY GOD a giant dinosaur just landed on my bed!!!!)
 
RudolphMilotic said:
The Japanese name means hop, so that explains why Magikarp doesn't need any water, the move itself isn't Water-type or it can be learned by other non-Water-type Pokémon.
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Pokestar said:
Splash is just the pokemon flopping (why do you think pokemon like wynaut can learn it)

How do you use dig in a building? (tyranitar used dig...OH MY GOD a giant dinosaur just landed on my bed!!!!)
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Well looking at the definition of splash I thought it was weird. Sorry for not knowing Japanese and all that jazz.
 
Ultimately, simply battling in water. If you have one water pokemon using Surf, and assuming that water pokemon is battling, what are you, the trainer doing? Even if the water pokemon isn't the one battling, how is your pokemon battling? It's a little ridiculous imagining say...Venusaur battling in the water.
 
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