My current opinion on the Wii

[The Lucario Trainer]

The Wii really stinks now! I mean all the titles Nintendo promised almost at launch have been delayed and will probably come out 2008 or Q4 of 2007. Considering the Wii got so much hype in E3 2006, that's a disappointment that those games were delayed far past it's due date.

And what games are we getting now? Half-assed party games with replay value of only 25 minutes. Everyone who I asked has a Wii, has complained that certain gimmicky party games like Wii Play, Wario Ware, Raving Rabbids just get boring after a couple minutes. I thought the whole purpose of the Wii was to make you be more interested in the games, but unfortunately I was way off.

Also Nintendo has just gone "jump the bandwagon of success and cater to our Non-Gamer/Casual Gamer audience and have completely forgotten theres a Nintendo Hardcore fan base out there." They have provided nothing for us besides TP (Which I'll say for the 1000th time) which was Gamecube game, and Super Paper Mario which was ripped off of the Gamecube. It's funny how most of the good games coming or are already out were either ripped of from GC games or ported over from another console. An example would be Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition, it's been ported once to the PC and PS2, and now another re-release which offers nothing new but Wii controls. Then theres Umbrella Chronicles which basically goes through things we have already done in Resident 1, 2, and 3 already. Plus it's a rail-shooter, so it's already garnered the "pretty lame" criticism.

VC games you might say is a good feature, but they're re-released and they suck more than when they were originally released. Like OoT Gamespot originally gave it the N64 version a perfect 10. When they played it again they gave it an 8.9. if that's not saying anything, then I don't know what will.
Plus I mean half of those games aren't even worth buying. No new features were added to any of them to make them more enjoyable; No online features lets not take examples from XBL Arcade to make the VC any better, let's just rip-off people; No releases of games that were released in Japan only; Finally just over-priced, I can find a whole pack-in of games from the NES SNES days that are only a cheap 4-6$. Yet a horrible NES game is 5$, to top that all off eBay is a better deal as well as Amazon.

Oh and don't get me started on channels. They're useless, just useless. Like I'm going to spend 1 hour of my day voting on the Everybody Votes Channel or check the weather constantly. One thing is for sure if they charged Wii points for that stuff I wouldn't even bother downloading them.

Then theres Online Multiplayer which I don't need to get in depth with. But with Pokémon Battle Revolution out , my argument will not last long for this. BI just hate friend codes! Why can't Nintendo just use gamer-tags? Seriously how will anyone get raped from gamer-tags? Since Nintendo only offers voice chatting with people you entered in your Friend Code roster. It's not like anyone would get raped online. Also Sony and Microsoft offered their online service since launch, Nintendo didn't offer it until about 6-7 months later, and it's still a lackluster. PBR, doesn't even have any incentive behind the multiplayer; meaning no leaderboards, scoreboards, nothing, if you win a hard battle, all you have to remember that with is "I beat someone really hard" There's no recollective memory or accomplishment that comes with it. Then there is Mario Strikers Charged on the Wii, with a pretty good and accomplished online feature, but it's still lacking a solid line of what online experiences can offer, it didn't revolutionize or even touch anything. What Mario Strikers Charged achieved online wise-- was already touched upon on Fifa Soccer 2003, with probably much more too offer to boot. You'd think after not having much online support for the Gamecube, Nintendo would've learned something from it. But obviously they haven't at all, which is pretty saddening. Hopefully they can pull Brawl into online territory, or that game's breaking point value will be diminished.

The Xbox 360 is simply the best. And the PS3 it's going to get there, plus I'm satisfied with it. I like the PS3 and 360 the most, but the Xbox 360 has more to offer I can't bypass that. And the Wii... the only positive thing I can truly say about is SMG, MP3, and SSBB. I guess selling point too because it's selling well.

 

[Geoffrey]

Wow, whiny much? If Nintendo has been doing such a terrible job, why are they beating out Sony and Microsoft? I personally don't mind the delays. I'd rather have a well-developed game than rushed garbage like the PS3 and Xbox 360 got (case in point, Sonic the Hedgehog). By the way, you forgot to mention Sonic and the Secret Rings, which was an excellent game. The VC really helps with people who haven't been able to play games from the old days. And eBay is a good site if you want to be cheated or ripped off. Also, anyone who says Wario Ware: Smooth Moves is boring should be shot. That's one of the Wii's best games.

 

[XD375]

Also, anyone who says Wario Ware: Smooth Moves is boring should be shot. That's one of the Wii's best games.

...sadly.

I totally agree with you, Lucario Trainer!

Geoffrey, it's outbeating Sony and Microsoft because a lot of people buy it expecting more.

Let's see...what games are actually worth it when I get a Wii if I get a Wii...

Super Mario Galaxy
Super Paper Mario
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Pokémon Battle Revolution

...even the Pokémon game is a little on the edge as it doesn't offer much.

I prefer GameCube Zelda, so I'll get it there. I also don't have Resident Evil 4 yet, so I might as well pick it up on the Wii too if I get a Wii.

That's it and the list will most likely grow by a few more games, but I'm kinda fed up with video games in general...

 

[Habunake]

The good games seem to start coming now, the first year or so of the DS was mostly mini-game collections before we got alot of good games.

Wii has three big hitters coming in the end of the year, and I expect good things after that.

 

[The Lucario Trainer]

Wow, whiny much? If Nintendo has been doing such a terrible job, why are they beating out Sony and Microsoft? I personally don't mind the delays. I'd rather have a well-developed game than rushed garbage like the PS3 and Xbox 360 got (case in point, Sonic the Hedgehog). By the way, you forgot to mention Sonic and the Secret Rings, which was an excellent game. The VC really helps with people who haven't been able to play games from the old days. And eBay is a good site if you want to be cheated or ripped off. Also, anyone who says Wario Ware: Smooth Moves is boring should be shot. That's one of the Wii's best games.

What do you mean by "beating" them. If I recall correctly Microsoft is still leading sale wise, until the Wii finally passes the Xbox 360 in sales, that statement remains entirely invalid at best. The Wii has really just been casual gimmicks after gimmicks, it's getting redundant. And when those delays are far past their due dates, it's just really annoying. If that's the case just don't have a release date until you know it's going to be finished on that date, it's pretty unproffesional as a company if you ask me. Yes things have been delayed in the past, however, most companies at least tell you why. I can't remember a time where Nintendo actually took the time to tell us exactly why titles were delayed repeatedly, it also seems when Nintendo focuses more and more on casual gaming projects, the main hardcore gaming projects get pushed aside, as if they're totally irrelevant. And no the Xbox 360 mostly doesn't have rushed crap as you idiotically claim; Gears of War, Dead Rising, DiRT, Forza Motorsport 2, Viva Pinata, these are all great games. And with the others great titles coming along the 360 is set. The PS3 will be getting numerous great titles; Rachet and Clank: Future Tools of Destruction, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Warhawk, Fatal Inertia, Haze, Killzone 2, Tekken 6, Metal Gear Solid 4:Guns of the Patriot, Final Fantasy XIII, and these will most likely be fantastic titles. The Wii's future looks pretty bleak other than; SMG, SSBB, and MP3, and then Mario Kart Wii coming in 2008, after that it's most likely there will be another drought for the Wii. While developers will be making games for the other competition.

And then referring to the games you claim are great. Sonic and the Secret of the Rings is not worth mentioning. It's not that fantastic, it's actually rather mediocre at best. And Wario Ware loses it's novelty rather fast, the replay value of the game is pretty bleak. The mini-games are only 7-8 seconds, that's lacking a lot in quality, and the multiplayer set-up isn't even simultaneos, which eliminates the central competition of what multiplayer is supposed to be akin too.

And eBay is a good site if you want to be cheated or ripped off.

Sadly that statement is rather laughable. Who wants to pay $5 for some crappy game like "Tecno Bowl" or "TMNT"? I certainly wouldn't. Especially since there is no added features to it, like XBLA's Arcade they have classic titles; but they actually got of their asses to make something good and worth playing by adding multiplayer features, and difficulty changes. And something even as minor to sharpen the graphics. All the VC has are unchanged rehashes, I already own anyway.

I prefer GameCube Zelda, so I'll get it there. I also don't have Resident Evil 4 yet, so I might as well pick it up on the Wii too if I get a Wii.

Please don't waste $280 on something you can get off of the player's choice shelf on the Gamecube for $20.

Super Mario Galaxy
Super Paper Mario
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Pokémon Battle Revolution

Trust me. PBR isn't worth it. I have it and the game doesn't even live-up to the handhelds or Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2. This is coming from a pretty hardcore Pokemon fan. But if that's your decision, I have no right to interfere.

 

[XD375]

Doesn't the Wii version have the improvements from the PS2/PC versions?

 

[The Lucario Trainer]

Doesn't the Wii version have the improvements from the PS2/PC versions?

Yeah the same improvements. Nothing was added. So I guess you can buy the PS2 version on the greatest hits shelf for $20 =P.

I think they are all good but I have a wii because I was gonna get a gamecube but the wii was made and I got one instead but I've never really played a sony game and wasn't interested with halo at the time and kingdom hearts seems gay and not very creative plus my parents never would've bought me a ps3 or 360 because of the price And still ssbb and smg are gonna be really cool.

Not to come off as rude. But, I think that post was rather ignorant. Kingdom Hearts is not the only things the PS2 has a great titles. In fact the PS2 has the largest selection of library out of all 3 consoles, including the Gamecube. And the PS3's price just dropped $100 and the 360's will drop pretty soon, I've heard in a Wal-Mart flyer add.

 

[XD375]

But I heard the graphics were better in the Gamecube version...wouldn't the Wii version have the good graphics and the improvements?

 

[The Lucario Trainer]

But I heard the graphics were better in the Gamecube version...wouldn't the Wii version have the good graphics and the improvements?

The PC version has the best graphics I believe. So... save your self the money still and get the PC version for like $20 xD, lol. And it doesn't take a great computer to run it. XP should do it.

Wii has three big hitters coming in the end of the year, and I expect good things after that.

And the Xbox 360 has 11 big hitters coming in the end of he year, not to mention was it already has installed in it's user-base...

 

[Habunake]

Please don't waste $280 on something you can get off of the player's choice shelf on the Gamecube for $20.

Where are you shopping that sells RE4 for the Wii at 280$?

 

[Geoffrey]

If I recall correctly Microsoft is still leading sale wise, until the Wii finally passes the Xbox 360 in sales, that statement remains entirely invalid at best.

I believe that, according to recent sales, Wii has been outselling both the PS3 and Xbox 360.

Trust me. PBR isn't worth it. I have it and the game doesn't even live-up to the handhelds or Pokemon Stadium 1 or 2. This is coming from a pretty hardcore Pokemon fan. But if that's your decision, I have no right to interfere.

It may not live up to the handhelds, but it certainly beats Stadiums 1 and 2.

 

[The Lucario Trainer]

Where are you shopping that sells RE4 for the Wii at 280$?

*Sigh* Try reading the other damn posts. XD375 DOESN'T HAVE A WII yet, so if she wanted to get it you have to include the price of the Wii also.

I believe that, according to recent sales, Wii has been outselling both the PS3 and Xbox 360.

Halo 3, that's all I need to say. And yeah it's beating the PS3, of course I would expect it not to sell as fast with it being 2.25x more expensive than the Wii.

It may not live up to the handhelds, but it certainly beats Stadiums 1 and 2.

Other than having a graphical tune-up. Ugh no it doesn't.

 

[Geoffrey]

Halo 3 bbe, that's all I need to say. And yeah it's beating the PS3, of course I would expect it not to sell as fast with it being 2.25x more expensive than the Wii.

I was talking about console sales, not video game sales. Halo is completely overrated anyways.

Other than having a graphical tune-up. Ugh no it doesn't.

Mind explaining why? And saying that the Stadiums were better because of the mini-games doesn't count. Seriously.

 

[The Lucario Trainer]

I was talking about console sales, not video game sales. Halo is completely overrated anyways.

And do you know what best-selling games do? Boost console sales significantly. And that's exactly what Halo 3 is going to do. Have you ever heard the video game term. "Console seller" they're certain games that have a breaking point into suckering people into buying a console. Analysts say that Halo 3 could potentially boost the sales of the 360 3x it's current rate, and then you have the fact that it's getting a price-drop within 1-week. It's enough to pass the Wii, I suppose with it's 1 year lead.

And I think Halo 2 is overrated, that's not the point anyone is trying to make. In fact you say "it's overrated" actually helps my point get across.

Mind explaining why? And saying that the Stadiums were better because of the mini-games doesn't count. Seriously.

You didn't explain yourself, why should you take the position to say "Explain mine", when you hypocritically didn't explain your statement either. Well anyway.

Let me start off by saying the game got crappier reviews than the previous Pokemon Stadiums games. To make matters worse, The thing about Pokemon Battle Revolution is that really gripes some people, without any greater context of a grand adventure, Pokemon fights are kind of boring. Furthermore, the game's connectivity with Pokemon Diamond and Pearl for the DS ends up being a crutch. If you haven't already made the investment of time and money into one of those games, there's not much to get out of Pokemon Battle Revolution. Then there's the multiplayer; The bummer here is that your friend code for Pokemon Battle Revolution is different from the friend code for the Wii itself. It's not too different from how the DS works online, and Nintendo has stated that it plans on assigning discrete friend codes for any Wii games that go online. So, it's not surprising, but it's still kind of a hassle.

And to Stadium--this game added not much more than it already had. It featured GBC color connectivity, that's a pretty cool feature since that was the N64 and all, so that game definitely has credit for having it first, and then there's the many other features it has. PBR does it almost exactly the same way and in someways even less.

 

[The Lucario Trainer]

Its still over priced and ill probably get a 360 5 years from now

It's not overpriced, when you consider the technology inside of it and the great selection of games. However, I won't go into great detail. Furthermore the core-pack will soon be $280, that price-range doesn't seem to bad, especially when you get HD support, a great selection of games, and extra multimedia features for $30 more than a Wii, which has none of them thus far, I wouldn't say the Wii has a great selection of games yet. After year's end maybe, but right now, it's looking pretty bleak with party games and other casual entorouge.

Also I want to complement the people who took their time to post in my thread, and actually have a pretty good debate. I appreciate the effort.

 

[Habunake]

I'm sure Brawl will be a system seller for the Wii much as Halo 3 is for the 360, judging on the tremendous sucess of the predecesor.

 

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None of the consoles suck

 

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I'm sure Brawl will be a system seller for the Wii much as Halo 3 is for the 360, judging on the tremendous sucess of the predecesor.

True.

 

[The Lucario Trainer]

I'm sure Brawl will be a system seller for the Wii much as Halo 3 is for the 360, judging on the tremendous sucess of the predecesor.

Melee wasn't even close the Halo's numbers, in fact I'm pretty sure it wasn't even in the top ten best-selling games of last-gen. What makes you think Brawl will be different? Madden, Halo, and GTA are the 3 things that are the most best-selling things currently, all that the 360 have. Halo 3 will trump it sale wise, Microsoft will definitely make tons of money, when you factor in they're 3 editions of Halo 3; Regular $60, Limited $80, and the ultimate edition that includes MC's helmet $120. That's bigger money than Brawl already, even if they only sold the regular $60 one. Since Brawl will be only $50. Microsoft definitely has the sale front this Holiday season.

Sony looks good for next year with; Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII and XIII versus.

None of the consoles suck and you need to just go shut the fuck up you prick I don't see you making any game console you fucking turd burgler Its probably hard to make you stupid ass

Ignorance is bliss. . .

Can a mod delete this post? I see it as irrelevant to the thread.

 

[Dogasu]

The Lucario Trainer, stop your bitching. You're making yourself look like a child by going around and calling everyone who points out the gaping holes in your analysis idiots.

Fanboy elitism when it comes to consoles is stupid ANYWAY. So you like the X-Box 360 better than your Wii. Good for you. But don't think you're earning any brownie points by shouting at us about how stupid we are for not having the same opinions that you have. Just because you like the "better" system doesn't mean that you're somehow "better" than the rest of us.