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this team has been through a LOT of work
i dont know how long i've spent on shoddy with this team ah ha
but after many many battles i've finaly ended up with a team that wins a lot of the time, and covers a lot :)

right..here goes :)


bronzong
sassy
heatproof
leftovers
252 hp, 86 attack, 80 defence92 spD
stealth rock
earthquake
gyro ball
explosion


my lead, chose it over aerodactyl, because he was great at stopping stealth rock and setting it up, and not much else because he's just die. bronzong always get's it set up, unless he's taunted, in which case i can switch and set it up slightly later, and my team isnt actually very weak to stealth rock so taunting to preventing it isnt that important. heatproof for heatran starters and because everyone assumes it levitates.



kingdra
swift swim
adamant
life orb
252 attack, 232 sp, 26 spD
dragon dance
outrage
subsitute
waterfall

LOVE this guy, only one weakness is a godsend, can just about always get in a dragon dance or two, then waterfall/outrage a chunk out of they're team. sub to avoid paralysis/burn, and to give me one extra DD if i see a status attack coming.


gengar
life orb
timid
levitate
4 hp, 252 spA, 252 sp
sludge bomb
shadow ball
hidden power fire
thunderbolt


i know gengar isnt very popular nowadays, but he works wonders for me. obvious scizor weakness, but the strat with gengar is to leave him for the late sweep, and scizor's are generally brought in early and so i can dispose of them with nape before i bring him out. moveset is slightly in question, hidden power fire is for fortress, but might switch this for energy ball because of a lack of grass attacks in my team which leads to a swampert weakness.


metagross
naughty
clear body
expert belt
252 attack, 124 spA, 132 speed.
meteor mash
earthquake
grass not
hidden power ice

mixed sweeper. not much to say here, obvious earthquake weakness, but if i see one coming i switch to gengar, and for fire, nape/kingdra. wonderful coverage, brilliant at stopping mence outrage seeps.



dusknoir
impish
leftovers
204 hp, 52 att, 200 def, 52 spD
ice punch
fire punch
shadow sneak
will-o-wisp


my wall :) i loooooooove this guy :D everyone i've battled doesnt expect me to have both punches, if i use a fire punch they switch in a mence and vice versa with scizor, and i can do HUGE damage to both :D will-o-wisp for damage reduction/long term damage and shadow sneak for the finish off/other ghosts/pshycics.



infernape
jolly
choice scarf
4 hp, 252 attack, 252 speed.
flare blitz
close combat
thunderpunch
stone edge

my ace in the hole revenge killer, i finally bowed down to infernape's supperiority. SO good, amaizngly fast, amazing coverage, just awsome :D


this team has done me proud many times on smogon :) the few weaknesses i've found have been agasint cresselia, not so much blissey anymore because metagross can do 70% with meteor mash, but she can still stall me, and gyrados's who have dragon danced enough to be faster than infernape.
let me know if you can see any weaknesses and stuff :)


p.s. for anyone who saw it, scrapped the jolteon idea, didnt work even with thunderbolt :/
 
Adamant is a better nature on Infernape, since you have Choice Scarf. But otherwise, nice team!
 
sounds like a great team, i really want to see them in action. let me know if you post any videos of them!
 
Just a quick review. Personally I'd go with hypnosis over explosion on bronzong. Dusknoir being your only wall should have some form of recovery other than leftovers, run pain split over one of the punches, Also for ape since your running a scarf jolly is rather pointless, change it to adamant instead. Other than that the team seem rather solid, good work :)
 
Oh I love the mindgame of putting on heatproof on Bronzong, I was planning on doing this myself too ^^ also a note, gengar is very popular nowadays, as are all your other pokemon (except kingdra). Good team (although not very original except for kingdra and heatproof)!
 
thanks for the positive comments guys :)

you may be right about infernape's nature, i just wanted him to be as fast as humanly possible to outrun things that have had speed boosts such as gyra or empoleon, but i think your probably right because there have been times when i've needed the extra 10% attack, i'll give it a try :)

and yeah i love it ah ha whenever i come up agasint a heatran i can see then going MWAAHAHAHA and then i take over when they do 40% to me and i KO then with earthquake
lol

sorry about the unorigniality :/ ah ha i just wanted a team that will win :p i'll move on to novelty teams after :)
 
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bronzong
sassy
heatproof
leftovers
252 hp, 86 attack, 80 defence92 spD
stealth rock
earthquake
gyro ball
explosion

Never use Heatproof, people "think" the opponent will never use a Ground move, not. Say the opponent uses Fire Blast from Heatran, it should be a OHKO, instead it does half of Bronzong's HP. From there, you already know the opponent has Heatproof, meaning now they know you have a Ground weakness. =\ Spikes give it away also. =| To add to it, Earthquake will not KO Heatran, as most Heatran leads carry Shuca Berries. What is better, a non resist that is not a weakness anymore, or a immunity that is not a weakness anymore? At least with Levitate you can switch Bronzong later in the game on an Earthquake, etc and Explode. Levitate>Heatproof in this situation.
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kingdra
swift swim
adamant
life orb
252 attack, 232 sp, 26 spD
dragon dance
outrage
subsitute
waterfall

Why in the world do you need 24 SpD EVs? =\ Use max Atk / max Spe, the 24 leftover was meant for Hydro Pump that OHKOs Skarmory in the rain. One weakness isn't that awesome, as Kingdra barely has any resistances so he has a hard time switching in.

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gengar
life orb
timid
levitate
4 hp, 252 spA, 252 sp
sludge bomb
shadow ball
hidden power fire
thunderbolt

Don't use HP Fire if you don't have Protect, if you use one, go with Protect. If you are mainly wanting to sweep after Scizor is gone, then where is your lure to lure him in, and kill him for Gengar to sweep? =\ NOTHING, lures Scizor in, and most of the time the opponent's last Pokemon might turn out to be Scizor as Scizor has no reason to switch in on any of your team members other than Gengar.

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metagross
naughty
clear body
expert belt
252 attack, 124 spA, 132 speed.
meteor mash
earthquake
grass not
hidden power ice

K, but this doesn't stop Outrages, a +1 Outrage does 56.81% min to Gross. =\
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dusknoir
impish
leftovers
204 hp, 52 att, 200 def, 52 spD
ice punch
fire punch
shadow sneak
will-o-wisp

Use Pain Split>>one of the elemental punches.

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infernape
jolly
choice scarf
4 hp, 252 attack, 252 speed.
flare blitz
close combat
thunderpunch
stone edge

Consider U-turn>>ThunderPunch, revenge killing doesn't deal with prediction as much as Band and Specs. U-turn gives you thr uber hand in the battle if you predict the opponent to switch.
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SharKing said:
Adamant is a better nature on Infernape, since you have Choice Scarf.
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=X Then lose to Mence after a DD? =[
 
thanks wolfare :)

kingdra's ev's are changed, oh, and i wouldnt switch meta in on an outrage, only after one of my poke's have been defeated, when he steps up to the mark and hp's them.

hmm....i might start going on a hunt for another special sweeper, gengar's scizor weakness is becoming hard to ignore :/ any suggestions? i cant use legendaries remember

oh and finally, so you'd say jolly on nape is the right nature?
 
You could always use Rotom-H over Gengar for your special sweeper. That'll take care of Scizor.

I'd say Jolly on Infernape, yes.
 
i kinda wanted to use this for the ipgl too, and i dont think they allow the extra rotom forms

i'm tryinggg


mild
60 Atk / 252 SpA / 196 Spe
(not sure about an item, maybe a yache berry)
draco meteor
flamethrower
thunderbolt
focus punch/superpower


seems to be working so far, and gives me some extra blissey help.

what do you think? :)
 
I think I should breed a shiny Dragonite :p

I don't see why it wouldn't work, but if it's a Scizor counter you might want to make it Rash (although SpD is the stat that Dragonite prizes since it's over Salamence's) or just make it a Salamence since it has Intimidate.
 
i have a shiny dragonite ;)
it has a neautal nature with pretty average ev's, but i think i might use it just cause i love it ah ha


i was thinking about transfering a few ev's onto def, maybe rash could work well :)

and im sorry i just dont like salamence :/ i dunno what it is i just dont ah ha
 
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