Mystery Dungeon world: Pokemon Homeworld?

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I know Mystery Dungeon isn't exactly pure canon, but while playing it I kept on noting that this world was totally seperate from the "main" Pokemon world. There's the prescence of humans hinted at in abandoned labs and powerplants, but it's clearly a seperate planet. I wonder if the world of PMD is the origin point for all Pokemon, with them somehow seeping into the world seen in the main games and anime. People keep in bringing up the theory Pokemon come from another world, and then we get a game all about a world inhabited by a loosely-organized civilization of Pokemon. It seems a tad too coincidental for me.

Any thoughts?
 
You might want to factor in that "you" is a human in the game turned into a Pokemon, so where did the human come from?
 
From another world, at least according to most of the characters.
 
Seems that way in the ending sequence of the main story too.
 
I support that. Despite we don't have a fully developed pokemon-world canon, despite the point of those been able to build towns and stuff. I guess this is other paraverse, a paralel universe from the game of pokemon we play and watch in the anime and so.

AND, I really like most the world of Mystery Dungeon rather than the others (at least on this new world I can be an Entei............)
 
The only problem I can see with that is that some pokemon present in Mystery Dungeon (Mewtwo, Groudon/Kyogre, Porygon, Porygon2, Grimer, Muk) are intrinsically linked to humans and the main Pokemon world.

Tis a nice theory but if you're taking it at a deeper level, it's hard to ignore that inconsistency.
 
Wait, are Grimer and Muk purely caused by humans? It's not like sludge and grime don't exist naturally.

I don't see any problem with Groudon or Kyogre, either.

Mewtwo and the Porygon line's are problems, though.
 
Grimer was born from the pollution created by humans - so yeah.

Groudon and Kyogre created the main Pokemon World and then went to sleep for a few bazillion years. A bit hard for them to be in both worlds at once.
 
Groudon and Kyogre created the main Pokemon World and then went to sleep for a few bazillion years. A bit hard for them to be in both worlds at once.
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They go to sleep in the PMD world and then the Red and Blue Orbs suck them back into the real world. Or there can be more than one of them, like with most Legendaries.

The real problem only lies with Voltorb/Electrode, Mewtwo, the Porgyons, and Grimer.

But on the other hand, this theory would explain, amongst other things, why 100 new Pokemon pop out of thin air every three years. :p (yes yes, they were already supposed to be there, but sometimes it doesn't seem that way)
 
This might be considered off-topic, but I recently watched Lucario and the Mystery of Mew on DVD. I was trekking through the buried relic and couldn't help noticing the similarities between it and the Tree of Beginning. Pokemon from ancient times- the fossil pokes in the tree, the rare and elusive mew wandering around willy-nilly, being guarded by 3 obsessive Regis (EXTERMINATE! I love that) and i spose the dungeon traps could link to the orange anti-bodies?
 
Well the Tree of Beginning is pretty obviously Yggdrasill of norse mythology. Which has appeared in a lot of fantasy anime and video games in the past five years or so.
 
Wasn't Yggdrasill the main villain of Tales of Symphonia? That name is very familiar.

Seems to me that they may have planned that similairty; Mew movie and Mystery came out roughly the same time, so they were probably developing them at the same time.

Maybe ancient people inhabited MD world, then, because of lack of resources, left. And over time, the world replenished itself.
 
Wasn't Yggdrasill the main villain of Tales of Symphonia? That name is very familiar.
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Yes. But at the end of the game, the characters name the World Tree they restore after him. Yggdrasill also appears in other "Tales" games, as the name of the world computer in "Digimon Chronicles", and is behind the basic concept of the Mana Tree in Secret of Mana. It's also referenced in Angel Sanctuary, Gundam SEED, Negima, Rave Master, Wild Arms, Megaman, Xenogears, Dragon Quest, Breath of Fire, a bunch of other games, and now Pokemon.

In Magical Starsign, they make fun of Yggdrasil's common appearence in so much anime and J-videogames by having a giant tree named "Yggsalad" as one of the locations.
 
Zeta said:
Yggdrasill also appears in other "Tales" games, as the name of the world computer in "Digimon Chronicles"
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It's also the world computer in the 3-D Digimon X-Evolution movie (which is based on the ideas Chronicles presents, actually, bar the human involvement), and it was mentioned at least once in the running Digimon series, Digimon Savers.

I had no idea Yggdrasil was referred to in Pokemon, too. Of course, seeing how all these Pokemon gods have been popping up now, I'm not too surprised.
 
I've been playing Tales of the Abyss lately, and the characters keep talking about something called the Sephiroth. Apparently, it's a place. But I can't keep helping thinking of Fon Master Ion being taken to a cave where the floor is FF 7's Sephiroth's giant HEAD. It's a little disturbing, but it makes me wonder about a legend of some sort.
 
Well, the Sephirot are a concept in Kabbalah. I'm willing to bet that's the source of FFVII's Sephiroth's name and the Sephiroth in Tales of the Abyss.

Though I have no idea what does this have to do with Pokemon...
 
Doesn't Yggdrasil come from Norse mythology? That's an interesting concept actually. Maybe Game Freak could make it into a Pokemon.
 
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