N00b needs major help with first deck - Unlimited MightyKrow - Politoed666 requested

[Anddill]

Well, this is my first deck after returning to the PokeWorld altogether... I have a basic idea of what I want in this deck but I require a whole lot of help to piece it together... I know I want these cards, and I know my basic strategy, but I need help with how many of which card I should use, especially when it comes to Trainer cards and Energy cards:

Pokemon:

x? Murkrow - Neo Revelation (more useful than Mysterious) Treasures

x? Murkrow - Unseen Forces

x? Honchkrow - Mysterious Treasures

x? Honchkrow - Supreme Victors

x? Poochyena - EX Ruby & Sapphire

x? Poochyena - Platinum

x? Mightyena - EX Deoxys

x? Mightyena - EX Power Keepers

x? Mightyena - Legends Awakened

x? Absol - EX Dragon

x? Absol - Secret Wonders (Probably not... Attack is only effective once...)

x? Umbreon - Majestic Dawn (I love this card, no coin flip for confusion and no weakness!)

x? Eevee - can't decide... It's either one which plays into my strategy or plays into evolving into Umbreon

Trainer:

x? Sidney's Stadium

x? Roseanne's Research

I'm not sure of much else... I'm really new at this and I apologize in advance

Energy:

x? Basic Darkness Energy

x? Special Darkness Energy

Strategy: Speed. I can set up parallel with either Murkrow or Poochyena to achieve much the same effect. With a single type, and single or non-evolutionary Pokemon, I don't need to waste many turns setting up, while swarming my oponent on the Bench and with energy. Moreover, I can mess with my oponent, confusing them, putting them to sleep, and most importantly, discarding cards from their hand. Dark Pokemon might not be the strongest, or have the most health, but they don't require much energy, and can mess with the oponent's best laid plans. Especially when in this metagame, the synergy between Pokemon and Trainers, requiring loads of energy, is strong. No matter which cards I discard, the oponent becomes significantly impaired.

I think I have effectively avoided all of the beginner's pitfalls.

Finally, I don't want to be choosy, but, if you are going to recommend a card, I'm not interested in any non-Dark Pokemon, or a Dark-type that requires some other energy, any Tyranitars, or "Dark" Pokemon, such as Dark [insert name here]

Thanks in advance.

 

[TeamGalacticMercury]

Re: N00b needs major help with first deck - Unlimited MightyKrow - Politoed666 reques

If you want to go to the championships, you're gonna need some new cards. For example, the DP cards are okay, but the very first cards are banned from the competitive game. I had the same problem.

 

[Anddill]

Re: N00b needs major help with first deck - Unlimited MightyKrow - Politoed666 reques

Oh no. No, no, no. Not at all. I am way too new at this to go tournament legal... Besides, I don't even have these cards, though, I do want them... Any advice??

 

[Politoed666]

Re: N00b needs major help with first deck - Unlimited MightyKrow - Politoed666 reques

Alright, sorry it's taken me so long to get to this, but life has sort of caught up.

So you like dark stuff, huh? Let's see what we can do...
2x Murkrow MT
2x Honchkrow SV
4x Honchkrow G
4x Sableye SF
2x Absol SW
2x Uxie LA
1x Unown Q
2x Crobat G
4x Unown R
(23)

Try that for Pokémon. What we'll try here is sort of a snipe-around disruption deck. It's sort of a variation on Sablelock, which is arguably the best deck in the competitive format right now, but without Garchomp C and therefore not as good. The idea is to prevent the opponent from getting setup in the first place, and then screwing with their setup and sniping their support stuff to cripple them.

For Trainers/Supporters/Stadiums...
3x Pokémon Collector
3x Cyrus' Conspiracy
1x Bebe's Search
1x Palmer's Contribution
3x Cyrus' Initiative
3x TGI Poké Turn
2x TGI Energy Gain
3x TGI Power Spray
1x TGI SP Radar
3x Pokémon Communication
1x Expert Belt
2x Super Scoop Up
(26)

Energies...
4x Special Dark
7x Basic Dark
(11)

If you can somehow get the cards to build this (they're all easily obtainable... the hardest things to get will be the Poké Turns), this will win you games. I took what seemed to be the cores of your deck and added some stuff. This is a cheap, extremely fun, and very effective deck.

Try it, if you can.

 

[Anddill]

Re: N00b needs major help with first deck - Unlimited MightyKrow - Politoed666 reques

Thank you so much for replying; I know that was quite a lot to figure out. But, I do have a few questions still. Could you tell me why you removed the cards you did (especially the Poochyena and Mightyena), why you added the cards you did, and how I would use the new cards - what is my basic strategy? Actually, if you could, could you describe how I would approach a battle, walk me through the whole match, with this deck?? That would be great. Thanks again.


Edit: Especially explain the Unowns, I don't really understand their purpose... (And which expansion does each come from?)

Second Edit: Would this deck benefit at all from Sidney's Stadium or a Moonlight Stadium? Would Night Maintenance be a good addition?

Third Edit: I think I understand the Unown R... (Legends Awakened expansion?) But, I don't quite get the Unown Q still. If you're referring to the Unown Q from the Majestic Dawn expansion, then I don't see the usefulness. I don't think any of my cards have a retreat cost of more than one colorless energy, so, instead of a single Unown Q to reduce that cost by a single energy, why not invest in a card that pulls energy back from my discard pile, another Palmer's?

 

[Politoed666]

Re: N00b needs major help with first deck - Unlimited MightyKrow - Politoed666 reques

Thank you so much for replying; I know that was quite a lot to figure out. But, I do have a few questions still. Could you tell me why you removed the cards you did (especially the Poochyena and Mightyena), why you added the cards you did, and how I would use the new cards - what is my basic strategy? Actually, if you could, could you describe how I would approach a battle, walk me through the whole match, with this deck?? That would be great. Thanks again.


Edit: Especially explain the Unowns, I don't really understand their purpose... (And which expansion does each come from?)

Second Edit: Would this deck benefit at all from Sidney's Stadium or a Moonlight Stadium? Would Night Maintenance be a good addition?

Third Edit: I think I understand the Unown R... (Legends Awakened expansion?) But, I don't quite get the Unown Q still. If you're referring to the Unown Q from the Majestic Dawn expansion, then I don't see the usefulness. I don't think any of my cards have a retreat cost of more than one colorless energy, so, instead of a single Unown Q to reduce that cost by a single energy, why not invest in a card that pulls energy back from my discard pile, another Palmer's?

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, but I've been busy. In any case, I'd be happy to help out further.

I'll start out with Unown Q... you do realize that you can only attach an energy once per turn, yes? That one energy is valuable, and discarding to retreat is no good. Unown Q is a great card especially if most stuff in your deck has one retreat, since then you can have free retreat. And let's say you get stuck with something like a Uxie start... you can search out Unown Q out of your deck along with a good attacker and something else with Pokémon Collector (I had you put that in there, yes?), retreat the Uxie, attach to the attacker, and begin attacking.

The thing with the cards you had in there, such as the Mightyena line, that I took out is that aside from the fact that they're dark type, they don't really have any synergy with the rest of the deck. A deck needs a common theme, and Mightyena etc. don't really fit with the disruption.

As to approaching a battle, I'll happily do that for you, but I'm afraid I don't have enough time right now.

 

[Anddill]

Re: N00b needs major help with first deck - Unlimited MightyKrow - Politoed666 reques

Okay, I think I get this now. And I only need one because I can pass him around? Anyhow, and I really hate to inundate you with requests, but, and this shouldn't take priority, but I had asked about the Sidney's Stadium, Moonlight Stadium, and Night Maintenance cards. I suppose you've already, implicitly, answered about the Moonlight Stadium. Okay, and correct me if I'm wrong, but, because Stadium cards can be replaced, whereas, a Pokemon whose usefulness through Poke-Power can be used from the relative safety of the bench, and because I will only be retreating one card at a time, I would rather have Unown Q in my deck than the Moonlight Stadium?

Edit: Yeah, too bad about Mightyena; he would make a great disruption card, if only EX Deoxys was still tournament legal. That, and the Absol from EX Dragon.

Second Edit: Okay, I promise I'll stop with the questions and the edits, but what decks should I be watching out for? What decks or strategies would pwn my deck?

 

[Politoed666]

Re: N00b needs major help with first deck - Unlimited MightyKrow - Politoed666 reques

Okay, I think I get this now. And I only need one because I can pass him around? Anyhow, and I really hate to inundate you with requests, but, and this shouldn't take priority, but I had asked about the Sidney's Stadium, Moonlight Stadium, and Night Maintenance cards. I suppose you've already, implicitly, answered about the Moonlight Stadium. Okay, and correct me if I'm wrong, but, because Stadium cards can be replaced, whereas, a Pokemon whose usefulness through Poke-Power can be used from the relative safety of the bench, and because I will only be retreating one card at a time, I would rather have Unown Q in my deck than the Moonlight Stadium?

Edit: Yeah, too bad about Mightyena; he would make a great disruption card, if only EX Deoxys was still tournament legal. That, and the Absol from EX Dragon.

Second Edit: Okay, I promise I'll stop with the questions and the edits, but what decks should I be watching out for? What decks or strategies would pwn my deck?

Hey, all questions are appreciated! I'd be answering them faster if I didn't just go on vacation and if I had more time on my hands.

1. Night Maintenance is not needed because Palmer's is a better option. Also, it's rotating.

2. Sydney's and Moonlight simply aren't really necessary. They wouldn't be a bad addition, but there's not really any reason for them in the deck. The space is better filled by other cards.

3. Yes, you would rather have Unown Q in your deck than Moonlight, for those reasons, if I understood you correctly.

4. Well, you're going to have trouble with certain things. Jumpluff HGSS decks have a good matchup against you. Overall, you'll have trouble with a lot of decks if you can't disrupt them early in the game, but if you can, there's not much that can beat you. Big beatsticks like Flygon will hurt you if they get setup, but you can win easily if you deny them cards early in the game.

Hope that about covers it. Don't hesitate to ask me more questions or point out things you asked that I may have missed; I'm in sort of a hurry. :]

 

[Anddill]

Re: N00b needs major help with first deck - Unlimited MightyKrow - Politoed666 reques

Oh, thank you so much. I really appreciate all the time you've spent with this deck. However, there is one last thing: you still have yet to walk me through a match using my deck. Thanks again, and I hope you have/had a wonderful vacation.