Necrozma/Legendary Trio Speculation Thread [SPOILERS]

[PkmnTrainerV]

So, every mascot duo so far (barring Generation I, and II (Since Suicune is debatable)), has got a third addition to it, most commonly called the "Third Legendary". Pokemon which come in this category are-
1. Rayquaza <> Mega Rayquaza [It received its form in ORAS, but that's not the main point]
2. Giratina <> Origin/Altered form
3. Kyreum <> Black/White Form
4. Zygarde <> 10%/50%/Complete form

So, what will be the third legendary to add to the duo of Solgaleo/Lunala? What relations will it have with Cosmoem (which seems to connect the legends)? Will the speculated third legend (Necrozma) get an alternate form?

Here's the previously speculated third legend (Marshadow), which turned out to be mythical, but we offer it a place in the discussion becuase of the pervious speculation...

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And now is our latest third-legend suspect, Necrozma

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I'll be discussing Necrozma for the first post. The rumoured third version, Pokemon Stars is speculated to have Necrozma for the cover, and is rumoured to have a new form. Necrozma also has a star on its back.

A source has found out that Necrozma's body parts, when assembled, resemble half a dragon/dinosaur. The images are floating over the Internet... (I'll upload the image later)


Let the Speculation begin!

 

[PurplePopplio]

Here's the image of Necrozma the dragon:

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Saved everyone the trouble of finding it.

 

[Kisu]

Necrozma could be the 3rd or it's an ultra beast and GF is switching it up

 

[PurplePopplio]

What if the "missing" parts have to be collect via sidequests or part of the main quest? Maybe we have to traverse Ultra Space, because the Ultra Beasts stole the rest of Necrozma's parts.

Or what if we have to travel through Ultra Space portals and each destination is a part of a previous region of the non-Megaverse. Each part will then house a part of Necrozma. Maybe each part will be guarded by an Ultra Beast?

 

[Astro Pantherion]

The biggest question remains whether it gets a extra type with its supposed new dragon form? If it gets a extra type, what type do people think it may get? For me, my bets are on Psychic/Dark, Psychic/Ice, or Psychic/Rock.

Dark = For the dex entry saying its a very violent Pokémon by nature that likes to ravage things with constant lasers.
Rock = Mainly because of its prism/crystal theme. Crystals are known to be a part of the Rock type, and crystals are capable of refracting as well reflect light.
Ice = Because of Refresh, where touching Necrozma's body tends to cause a cold freeze effect on the trainer's hand. Ice also reflects/refracts light.

In addition to the Ice type, Necrozma's black body may be a reference to Black Ice, and Ice in mythology is often related to death, which Necrozma's name hints at. The Rock type, in return, would refer Necrozma's black body as being made of Obsidian, otherwise, "frozen magma", a type of volcanic glass. Seeing as Necrozma is said to have slept deep underground, just like how magma is known to rest deep underground before erupting, this would make a lot of sense.

Ultimately, I think my guesses would go to Rock-type, as the dragon form looks like a dead skeletal space fossil, and Fossil Pokémon have always been part Rock-type.

 

[Esserise]

I'm just going to quote some of my thoughts from an older thread:

I'm not really a huge fan of Necrozma's design, but this is the part I'm interested in. Because really, when you think about it, they're not a "trio" per se. Solgaleo and Lunala are just two diverging paths of the same base Pokémon, Cosmog. So in a sense, what we have is a duo - Cosmog and Necrozma. Cosmog absorbs light (in order to evolve), while Necrozma refracts it. Cosmog is only hypothesized to be an Ultra Beast, and Necrozma is only said to be "reminiscent" of them, and neither of them are registered as UBs by the Beast Balls. But the Cosmog line does have the ability to create Ultra Wormholes, and they're both said to come from another world, regardless.

In fact, why is Cosmog an evolving Pokémon, but not Necrozma? Could Necrozma be like Diancie (incidentally, another mineral-based Pokémon that attacks by reflecting light) - a mutation rather than an evolution? Was there at some point a Cosmog that evolved during an eclipse, maybe? Or that spent its life underground, unable to absorb solar/lunar energy (resulting in Necrozma being so unable to absorb light that it instead ricochets right off of it)? That might actually explain why Necrozma is a pure Psychic type (like Cosmog) - maybe the Steel and Ghost typings of Solgaleo and Lunala are expressions, or manifestations, of the solar/lunar energy they've absorbed, and Necrozma doesn't have any of that.

I don't really buy the whole dragon thing, as it happens.

 

[TouyaShiro]

Necrozma shares this with Solgaleo and Lunala, at least: That distinct, distorted sound effect which is shared with the Ultra Beasts at the end of their cries. With that said, as it is right now, I see it in the same vein as Zygarde currently is - disconnected from the Cosmog line, and at a disadvantage against both of their final evolutions in both BST and STAB type matchup (Steel resists Psychic, Ghost is SE against Psychic and Psychic resists itself).

I haven't read into the whole Necrozma Dragon thing, but I'm not currently buying it. It's way too early for us to know for sure what's going on... Not even the anime's gonna touch upon this until potentially next year, given that they decided to do a Pokémon Original Series callback for M20...

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

The biggest question remains whether it gets a extra type with its supposed new dragon form? If it gets a extra type, what type do people think it may get? For me, my bets are on Psychic/Dark, Psychic/Ice, or Psychic/Rock.

Dark = For the dex entry saying its a very violent Pokémon by nature that likes to ravage things with constant lasers.
Rock = Mainly because of its prism/crystal theme. Crystals are known to be a part of the Rock type, and crystals are capable of refracting as well reflect light.
Ice = Because of Refresh, where touching Necrozma's body tends to cause a cold freeze effect on the trainer's hand. Ice also reflects/refracts light.

In addition to the Ice type, Necrozma's black body may be a reference to Black Ice, and Ice in mythology is often related to death, which Necrozma's name hints at. The Rock type, in return, would refer Necrozma's black body as being made of Obsidian, otherwise, "frozen magma", a type of volcanic glass. Seeing as Necrozma is said to have slept deep underground, just like how magma is known to rest deep underground before erupting, this would make a lot of sense.

Ultimately, I think my guesses would go to Rock-type, as the dragon form looks like a dead skeletal space fossil, and Fossil Pokémon have always been part Rock-type.

My guesses are...

Psychic/Dark: Due to the whole angry thing, but we've also got Hoopa Unbound only last gen.
Psychic/Ice: Becuase of the freezing animation thing
Psychic/Dragon: Since it looks like a dragon. I'm surprised that there are so few Psychic/Dragon guesses.

 

[IncineROAR]

I feel like Necrozma will be the focus for the anime, as how Zygarde got shafted from in-game focus to anime focus. I'd honestly like Necrozma to be the focus of a third game where the storyline is changed and when you go into the Ultra Wormhole to rescue Guzma and that blond chick, you battle Necrozma instead of the combined Lusamine/Ultra Beast thing. And if Necrozma has additional "forms" - then I want the form to be dependent on which starter you chose.

 

[Morningstar]

Psychic/Dragon: Since it looks like a dragon. I'm surprised that there are so few Psychic/Dragon guesses.

Probably because there are already Psychic/Dragon Legendary pokemon, and Both types seem to be the most overused for Legendary Pokemon (which I include Mythical pokemon, Ultra Beast and the Tapu if anyone's asking)

• Gen 1: Mew and Mewtwo.
• Gen 2: Lugia and Celebi.
• Gen 3: Latias, Latios, Jirachi, Deoxys and Raquayza
• Gen 4: Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Uxie, Azelf, Mesprit, and Cresellia.
• Gen 5: Victini, Meloetta, Reshiram, Zekrom and Kyurem.
• Gen 6: Zygarde and Hoopa
• Gen 7: Tapu Lele, Solgaleo, Lunala (As well as Cosmog and Cosmoem by relation.), Necrozma, and Guzzlord.

Overall Psychic is very over represented and Dragon seems to be coming at a close secone (though this might be due to that the Cover legendary of the DS games and Emerald were Dragons.

As far the Necrozma goes. I think they might do a different story with him. Either a sequel game where another villian wants the legendary for their own nefarious schemes or as something similar to Zygarde, a side thing for a Gen 8 game. Likewise I think Necrozma might get a Dark subtyping, because it has an advantage over Sogaleo and Lunala's types while also referencing that it can't absorb light (though considering that the type's name was Evil in Japan that might make it less likely)

 

[PkmnTrainerV]

I once considered ghost becuase of reasons, but, Lunala already has that typing. I think Necrozma now will have Ice/Psychic or Dark/Psychic.

 

[TechSkylander1518]

I'll be discussing Necrozma for the first post. The rumoured third version, Pokemon Stars is speculated to have Necrozma for the cover, and is rumoured to have a new form.

So a fan rumor, fan speculation, and another fan rumor-not the best thing to have as the base for a theory.

Necrozma could be the 3rd or it's an ultra beast and GF is switching it up

The thing is, Necrozma was set up to be an Ultra Beast-Looker mistakes it for one at first, and the dex entries say it resembles one-but after catching it, Looker will read the dex and see that it's not one, and Beast Balls have the same capture rate on them as they do a normal Pokemon. So the setup for it now is that it looked like it was going to be an Ultra Beast, but wasn't-to make it a UB again would just be silly.

 

[TouyaShiro]

By all means, Necrozma may have been an Ultra Beast in the past when it first entered the world - if there's one thing that it could potentially share in common with Cosmog and its evolutions, it's that the energy from the Ultra Wormhole and whatever biological weirdness they had when growing in Ultra Space has long since left them, and sleeping underground in the main Pokémon world for thousands of years would definitely help it to become more adjusted to the Pokémon world.

I wouldn't be surprised if a future game like a remake (which is a *long* way off) or some future game explores the possibility of a Necrozma that is found in Ultra Space - what would it have looked like, should it happen to be an Ultra Beast in origin, and what would it look like if it stayed in Ultra Space for its millennium-long lifespan?

 

[Lufenium]

I really don't think Necrozma is related to Solgaleo or Lunala in terms of lore.

I think we're so used to having trios by now, that duos are somewhat unexpected. I do think that Star/s/Spaghetti/whatever/ will feature Necrozma as its box legend, though I doubt it'll be that closely related to them like Giratina & Kyurem were to their primary pairs.