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Attention: 5th gen sets go here: http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=82151

Smogon has one of these, so I figure why don't we make one? Pretty much post some of your favourite movesets, complete with natures and EV's, IV's if necesarry and explain what it is supposed to accomplish. The only rule is that it cannot be on one of the analysis pages for the Pokemon on Smogon's Strategy Dex.

But please, no Specs Gyarados.

So, anybody got any sets they'd like to share?
 
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An offensive trick room Bronzong I once saw on Smogon.

-Explosion
-Gyro Ball
-Trick Room
-Earthquake
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
Brave (O Spe. IV)
Macho Brace
Levitate

See, under Trick Room, Gyro Ball still retains the power it normally would, so not only does Bronzong almost always hits first but it has a massively powerful STAB attack.
 
I came up with this set that I used to use back when Scizor and Gyarados used to piss me the fuck off.

Latias@Flame Orb
40HP/252Spe/220SpAtk
Modest
~Trick
~Recover/Refresh
~Dragon Pulse
~Thunderbolt/Surf/HP Fire

Let's just say I got a few kids to rage quit and I've taken care of nearly all non-guts physical sweepers.
 
I thought of a bronzobf that could maybe work I liked it atleast

Bronzing @ leftovers/ life orb
nature: adamant
evs: 252/hp 252/atk 4/def
-block
-stealth rock
-explosion
-earthquake
pretty much for a trick room team where zong comes in on something it resists and sets up the rocks then can block and explode or if a switch happens that works even better beciase then you block the counter ans explode on it or switch to your own counter. It probably needs improvement but it's a decent idea IMO, even if it is basically doing a dugtrios job but without the fraility.
 
I thought of a bronzobf that could maybe work I liked it atleast

Bronzing @ leftovers/ life orb
nature: adamant
evs: 252/hp 252/atk 4/def
-block
-stealth rock
-explosion
-earthquake
pretty much for a trick room team where zong comes in on something it resists and sets up the rocks then can block and explode or if a switch happens that works even better beciase then you block the counter ans explode on it or switch to your own counter. It probably needs improvement but it's a decent idea IMO, even if it is basically doing a dugtrios job but without the fraility.
 
The offensive trick room set is on the Smogon Bronzong Analysis page now.
 
I have been using a Sub-Punching Dragonite recently with very good success:

Dragonite@Life Orb
252HP/252Atk/4Def
Adamant
~Substitute
~Roost
~Focus Punch
~Dragon Claw

I know some people have a problem with Life Orb on a Substitute set, but that is what Roost is there for. The HP EV's add to Dragonite's superior bulk (in general for Dragons) and obviously max attack in order to hit as hard as possible with Focus Punch and Dragon Claw. The beauty of those two moves is that no single Pokemon outside of Shedinja can resist them.

Now, most people when they see a Dragon of any kind, try to get their counter in and it is normally an ice type or a steel type. Sub up on the switch, then wreak havoc with Focus Punch and Dragon Claw.
 
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Dexington said:
I have been using a Sub-Punching Dragonite recently with very good success:

Dragonite@Life Orb
252HP/252Atk/4Def
Adamant
~Substitute
~Roost
~Focus Punch
~Dragon Claw

I know some people have a problem with Life Orb on a Substitute set, but that is what Roost is there for. The HP EV's add to Dragonite's superior bulk (in general for Dragons) and obviously max attack in order to hit as hard as possible with Focus Punch and Dragon Claw. The beauty of those two moves is that no single Pokemon can resist them.

Now, most people when they see a Dragon of any kind, try to get their counter in and it is normally an ice type or a steel type. Sub up on the switch, then wreak havoc with Focus Punch and Dragon Claw.
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That's pretty awesome, actually. The hard part is getting Dnite in and forcing something out. Hopefully it'll take your opponent a while to realize how slow your Dnite is.
 
Recently, I constructed a Choice Band Scizor. It hasn't been tested, but its moveset can be changed.

Scizor
Item: Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Defense

Moves:
Metal Claw
Pursuit
U-Turn
Brick Break

Metal Claw has more PP than Iron Head, and, with STAB and Technician, is very close to it in power. Pursuit I never actually used on a set, but it benefits from Technician, although Night Slash remains an option. U-Turn allows me to switch out after a potentially strong move, but it is by no means a consistent STAB. Finally, Brick Break rounds out the set and works with Pursuit for near-universal type coverage.

Please let me know what you think.
 
Choice Band is Scizor's flagship moveset, you can look it up on Smogon.

And never, ever use a Steel move that isn't Bullet Punch. Bullet Punch is 99% of the reason Scizor is even used.
 
Troggy said:
Choice Band is Scizor's flagship moveset, you can look it up on Smogon.

And never, ever use a Steel move that isn't Bullet Punch. Bullet Punch is 99% of the reason Scizor is even used.
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Actually Bullet Punch AND Technician are but I do strongly agree with you.
 
Ah. This Scizor was raised in Diamond, so that's why I didn't ever see Bullet Punch as part of its movepool before.
But now that you mentioned it, Bullet Punch is a far stronger addition to the movepool than Metal Claw, and has the added benefit of working with Technician.

Thank you very much for the input. I'll get on re-learning that. Is there anything else that may need tweaking (according to you guys)?
 
SNaG said:
Ah. This Scizor was raised in Diamond, so that's why I didn't ever see Bullet Punch as part of its movepool before.
But now that you mentioned it, Bullet Punch is a far stronger addition to the movepool than Metal Claw, and has the added benefit of working with Technician.

Thank you very much for the input. I'll get on re-learning that. Is there anything else that may need tweaking (according to you guys)?
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Well this isn't to help your movesets, it's to post your creative and original movesets then maybe get criticism. It's also not original or creative if you take an existing moveset and tweak 2 moves in it.
 
SNaG said:
Ah. This Scizor was raised in Diamond, so that's why I didn't ever see Bullet Punch as part of its movepool before.
But now that you mentioned it, Bullet Punch is a far stronger addition to the movepool than Metal Claw, and has the added benefit of working with Technician.

Thank you very much for the input. I'll get on re-learning that. Is there anything else that may need tweaking (according to you guys)?
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For Choice Band Scizor just use the Smogon Page for suggestions. What you have is fine, some other options are Superpower over Brick Break (Also a Platinum only move), Quick Attack, or Aerial Ace (Not that useful but it's there).
 
Once again, my apologies.

In the range of creative movesets, then...

Raikou
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP, 140 Speed, 116 Special Attack

Moveset:
Calm Mind
Substitute
Thunderbolt
Extrasensory

The Calm Mind-Sub strategy can establish an immediate makeshift wall with the potential to be able to absorb some Special Attacks. Of course, the main idea for it is to dish them out. Thunderbolt serves as the STAB move. Extrasensory serves as a filler, as Hidden Power's type in this case offers little help.
 
SNaG said:
Once again, my apologies.

In the range of creative movesets, then...

Raikou
Item: Leftovers
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP, 140 Speed, 116 Special Attack

Moveset:
Calm Mind
Substitute
Thunderbolt
Extrasensory

The Calm Mind-Sub strategy can establish an immediate makeshift wall with the potential to be able to absorb some Special Attacks. Of course, the main idea for it is to dish them out. Thunderbolt serves as the STAB move. Extrasensory serves as a filler, as Hidden Power's type in this case offers little help.
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http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/raikou#Conservative_Booster Similar to that, also Extrasensory isn't a bad filler I'll give you that.
 
I was actually considering experimenting with a Scizor on PBR. One that doesn't spam that Bullet Punch move.

Adamant / Leftovers or Life Orb / Technician
- Bug Bite
- Iron Head / Metal Claw
- Brick Break
- Agility
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Yes, the EVs are very straightforward, but it's still in development.

It's an Agility set, made to prove that the big, red ant doesn't need Bullet Punch to be fast. Simply use Agility on the first turn, usually forcing switches to come out unharmed. I chose Bug Bite because, with Technician, it gets 90 Power. And it's nice to steal the foe's Berries, especially the Pinch Berries. My primary decision for a Steel STAB is Iron Head. Nice and powerful, and a 30% flinch rate is quite welcome. Metal Claw can be used if you feel lucky. It has 90% Accuracy, but 75 Power (thanks to Technician). And it has a chance of raising Attack. Still, I'd advise Iron Head. Brick Break is for coverage. I didn't include Superpower because this Scizor usually wants to stay in, and an Attack and Defense drop can really get in the way of that.

Whatcha think?
 
SharKing said:
I was actually considering experimenting with a Scizor on PBR. One that doesn't spam that Bullet Punch move.

Adamant / Leftovers or Life Orb / Technician
- Bug Bite
- Iron Head / Metal Claw
- Brick Break
- Agility
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP

Yes, the EVs are very straightforward, but it's still in development.

It's an Agility set, made to prove that the big, red ant doesn't need Bullet Punch to be fast. Simply use Agility on the first turn, usually forcing switches to come out unharmed. I chose Bug Bite because, with Technician, it gets 90 Power. And it's nice to steal the foe's Berries, especially the Pinch Berries. My primary decision for a Steel STAB is Iron Head. Nice and powerful, and a 30% flinch rate is quite welcome. Metal Claw can be used if you feel lucky. It has 90% Accuracy, but 75 Power (thanks to Technician). And it has a chance of raising Attack. Still, I'd advise Iron Head. Brick Break is for coverage. I didn't include Superpower because this Scizor usually wants to stay in, and an Attack and Defense drop can really get in the way of that.

Whatcha think?
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Hm it isn't bad I'll give you that, but if you're running Life Orb you better pray you can pull off the Agility, take a hit from SR and sweep.

However I would just prefer having a Ninjask baton pass the speed and include some Sword Dance's :p
 
Yes, but I thought this was worth a shot, LOL. I really wish I could fit Swords Dance there, and be able to use it. (Moveslot syndrome, ugh...)
 
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