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New Generation or Expansion Generation?

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In Generation I and III, 150 and 130 new Pokemon were introduced. In Gen III, most of the new Pokemon were unrelated to previous ones and older ones were put into the background.

In Generation II and IV, about 100 Pokemon were introduced, with a fourth to a third new evolutions or baby forms for old Pokemon. Old Pokemon were very prevalent in both Sinnoh and Johto.

What do you think they're going to do with this generation?

I think they might introduce a lot of new Pokemon and downplay old ones, relying on HGSS for them to be obtainable in, considering the very close release dates and being on the same system.
 
agreed, and im sure i'll get shot for saying this, but it seems to follow a pattern

so hopefully not an expansion, but a new one.
 
Lots of new Pokémon. They mentioned new pokémon, new region, new gameplay and a fresh start right?
 
The fact that the first Gen V Pokemon unveiled was not a baby of an old Pokemon contributes a lot to the thought we'll see less new evolutions for old Pokemon in Gen V.
 
New generation. We just had 5 games which featured very heavily on johto, Sinnoh, and kanto. Hoenn... not so much. So I do want these games to feature heavily on their newest pokemon and a bit of Hoenn.
 
New Pokemon would be good. I for one found the Hoenn Pokemon to be a refreshing change and would welcome a similar feel this time with the new Pokemon the focus.
 
I figure we'll see:

... About as many Pokemon as Gen 2.
... Less evo's/pre-evo's than Gen 4 but more than Gen 3

I've never disagreed with the idea that they might be swapping between introducing completely brand new Pokemon and extensions of older ones, but I don't like to champion it either since they can decide whatever the hell they want.
 
I'd be good with getting like 7 pokemon related to current ones. Like 3 babies of stuff that is just physically large, and 4 evolutions of some of the single stage crap we got out of gens 2 and 3. Other than that I'm fine with new stuff.
 
I wouldn't want there to only be a couple new Pokémon related to the oldies like Gen III. Y'know, as they long as they keep it to the Pokémon who need pre-evolutions (Onix, Scyther) or evolutions (Qwilfish).

That said, a load of focus on new lines would be nice. Just... don't make it like Gen III where half of the Pokémon were available from one set of games, and the other half the other set. Because trying to arrange a complete National Dex in those games was absolutely ridiculous.
 
I hope it's a new generation, that's why I and III are my favorite generations after all.
 
I’d personally like another standalone region that does it's own thing, akin to Houen.

However, I'd like to see them take it a step further than Gen III did by eliminating the likes of Geodude and Zubat from the pokedex this time around, replacing them with alternatives. Yes, it's logical to find them in caves worldwide, and yes, I suppose it is tradition. But tradition-shmision. Don't play it safe, use this as a chance to shake things up. I doubt anyone will have a heart attack if they go a whole game without seeing Tentacool.

So yeah, more focus on the new guys, with older pokemon available throughout the game, but not quite as prevalent. Ideally, have the bulk of them available post-quest, or even better, fix the global trades so you can find and trade for any pokemon you want, bar perhaps those available during events.
We’ve bought your remakes, cut us shmucks a break, huh?
 
Creators: Good news, kids! We've decided to take out Geodude and Zubat. They shall no longer be present in the games!

Kids: YAAAAY!

Creators: Instead we're going to replace them with brand-new Pokemon!

Kids: Yaaaay?

Creators: Today we are proud to announce the arrival of Geobat, the Rock/Flying type, and Zudude, the Poison/Ground type!

Kids: Damn it!
 
I'm fine with Zubat and Geodude not being deleted, but they shouldn't be in the wild.
 
From what has been said, this is looking like a very obvious "new" generation. There are only so many times you can tweak a couple of details on an old Pokemon, say "weak and useless baby YAY", and then make a game out of it. Then again, I don't feel any of the games have gone that route entirely thus far anyway, so...
 
Zeta said:
The fact that the first Gen V Pokemon unveiled was not a baby of an old Pokemon contributes a lot to the thought we'll see less new evolutions for old Pokemon in Gen V.
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Eh, I don't really think it means much. The first Gen II Pokemon revealed was a Legendary that was related to nothing from RBY, and GSC had a lot of Pokemon related to the older ones. Meanwhile, Azurill was one of the first three Gen III Pokemon revealed and it was one of the only two Hoenn Pokemon that was related to older ones.

I'd like more new Pokemon related to older ones than Gen III but fewer than Gen II/IV, myself. Maybe about a dozen to 15 out of 100+.
 
Zeta said:
I'm fine with Zubat and Geodude not being deleted, but they shouldn't be in the wild.
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They could be made rarer. I remember Geodude being pretty hard to find in the games based in Hoenn (It could only be found in Granite Cave and Smashing Rocks, which you didn't really do often...)

As for the topic at hand, I could see it being like the first and third gens in that they introduce a batch of new monsters and keep babies and evolutions to a minimum. But probably not as extreme as the third gen which only had 2 such Pokémon.

It really depends on the metagame... Sort of. In the Advanced era, there were alot of Pokémon that weren't getting any use due to being too weak in their current state. Gen 4 tried to fix this, with variable success.
 
I hope they concentrate on both old and new ones
I mean there are a whole bunch of Pokemon who are useless in their current state

I hope they dont do such a thing like in Generaton III
yeah they introduce many new Pokemon, but most of them are statistcally useless like many Pokemon in the beginning of Generation I
and as far as I know, Generation III wasnt much appriciated as Generation II and IV so I think they will go the way they did like in Generation II and IV
 
If the new region is Sinjoh and the games focus on connections to DPt/HGSS, then I expect this gen to include at least a few Poké related to older gens (mainly to 2/4)
But we really don't know much to base speculation about...
Anyway, what I'd actually like to see? a gen with mostly brand new Poké, BUT it should still have a few Poké related to older gens (like 10 or a little more out of about 130) and not nothing (2) like Hoenn had...
 
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