New Giratina Form

[The Outrage]

Origin Form

Click on the Giratina pick.

This could possibly work in the same way as Deoxys of the previous generations, where the form changes when being traded to different games, in which case, they would be able to hide it's data from hackers.

So other than being larger than the previous, and lighter, what differences to it's stat do you think it will bring? I doubt it would become an increase, but more of a re-arrangement. Since the previous Ghost Dragon stayed on the defensive side, this may have it's stats re-arranged on the offensive side. Honestly, I have a new favorite dragon.

Or do you think this is merely something they created for the movies, and does not foreshadow an alternate form?

Maestro says: Deoxys Clone<--- Will only get the reference if you know him from SPPf

EDIT:

Oh, incase any of you didn't guess, since this is a topic in the D/P section and not the Anime, this is a discussion more along the lines of it's role in the games and not the movie. (or if you think it will even appear in the game)

With that said, I can say confidently that Giratina is the Box Legend for D/P's third game, but it will be Giratina's Origin Form.

As for it's plot in the games, Cyrus does swear revenge after beating him, so I think rather than trying to re-create the universe from Dialga and Palkia, he will just choose to destroy it after his defeat with Giratina's Origin form.

 

[Habunake]

I hope so.

Looks like a centipede.

I still want playable Sexy Legs Darkrai.

 

[Zeta]

Deoxys clone or Dark Celebi etc. I bet. Small chance that it will change into Origin Form in the third game, but I don't think so.

 

[The Outrage]

Deoxys clone or Dark Celebi etc. I bet. Small chance that it will change into Origin Form in the third game, but I don't think so.

Unlike the clones of Deoxys, or Dark Celebi, Giratina's Origin form has actually gone through a lot of cosmetic changes. Not only that, it is even given some statistical data. It is 6.9 m high, and 650 kg, making it 2.4 metres larger and 100 kg lighter than the previous.

I doubt they'd even bother giving any statistical data if they weren't planning on using it in the games. They'd even given it an official title for it's new form, something I doubt Dark Celebi or the clones had (correct me if I'm wrong)

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If it were in the games, perhaps it's form can be changed through a special relic like the Deoxys and the meteorites. Perhaps trading it to previous games will merely change it's form back to it's standard form, or maybe it can update the data of previous games.

 

[Lesley_GSC]

Oh, It's gorgeous! I love it! And Shaymin is sooo cute! I HAVE to get my parents to take me to the Shaymin event!

 

[arcashinx]

the new giratina form looks like a wormO_O

 

[Terra Force]

G/S Remakes with different forms of Giratina as like.. an event, anyone?

 

[Furu]

G/S Remakes with different forms of Giratina as like.. an event, anyone?

I...think it'd be more likely for an alternate Giratina form to be in the third game, what with it being in the Dialga/Palkia group and all.

 

[The Outrage]

Yeah, I don't understand why Turbo's jumping the ball going all the way to a GSC remake when that is not even confirmed, while a third game is almost certain. I also don't see how this would pertain to a Gold/Silver remake.

The movie in which this form debuts has nothing to do with Johto either, so I don't know why this sort of speculation is happening. Perhaps if it was an event Pokemon not native to any region like Deoxys, then I can understand why you would think that GSC could result a change in forms, but Giratina is not an event. I find it more likely that this transformation would play a role in DP's third game's plot.

 

[Silktree]

It is notable that the seventh movie was not, in fact, used to showcase Deoxys' Speed form, even though it was revealed as part of Emerald's advertisement very soon after the movie premiere.

Personally, I would rather that this form of Giratina not be embraced by Game Freak (despite the fact that it was no doubt designed by Ken Sugimori, who has a major role in the designing of movie characters). The reason for this is that the thought of Game Freak recycling ideas from past generations while failing to create new ones, has followed me since Diamond and Pearl's release. Besides which, the movie information states that Giratina appears in its original form strictly when undergoing transitions between dimensions; that implies the original form could at best have an overworld sprite.

 

[Furu]

Unless game 3 has dimensional travel to some extent, but that would really be a whole new can of worms.

 

[Tina]

FireRed and LeafGreen come to mind, since they had Birth Island in it and they had their own Deoxys forms...

Either way, it'll be in a GSDS or the third game, in which I think GSDS having the Giratina form is more likely, because methinks that GSDS'll come out before the third game (Like GenIII pulled off), but lol.

 

[The Outrage]

Unless game 3 has dimensional travel to some extent, but that would really be a whole new can of worms.

I highly doubt that, but upon contemplation on how one would go about using this form in the games, I had origially thought some sort of old relic, and then afterwards, a hold item.

Now I'm thinking that for the games, Cyrus would have a machine that can force this form into existance, in an attempt to transport the whole universe (or atleast Sinnoh) into a different dimension. Or perhaps he plans to use this form to send himself into a different dimension in which he can rule, seeing our dimension as a lost cause.

Unown Lord really does make me begin to doubt it though, however, if enough fans whine about it, it may just end up happening. They put Riley in as a homage to the 8th movie, surely they'd atleast show an overworld sprite, like Unown Lord said for the fans. Even if they do just that, I doubt the fans would be satisfied. Giving us the sprite and not letting us use this form in battle is just cruel. It's like giving a child a toy and telling him he's not allowed to play with it. If that were the case, I would much prefer it if it did not appear at all.

I was also thinking that it was a bit early for them to be making a cameo for any 3rd game references in the Anime, bt I could be wrong.

Also by Unown Lord's comments, I'm guessing he wasn't too impressed with the multiple versions of the same Pokemon like the Burmy and Shellos line?

 

[Silktree]

Unless game 3 has dimensional travel to some extent, but that would really be a whole new can of worms.

Even if it did, Giratina would apparently only revert to its form for the purposes of being transformed from one dimension to the next; we might see its overworld sprite change for a brief period of time, but once the transformation fell into place, it would revert back to its regular form, be it in the special dimension or the canon one.

If to further my point, the movie information goes as far as to state that the circumstances under which the original form appears include the use of Shadow Force. In a sense, when we see Giratina disappear during an in-game battle ("Giratina vanished instantly!"), we are supposed to think of it as hopping between dimensions in its worm-like state until it is prepared to strike.

 

[The Outrage]

I had always thought of it as just that, going into a different dimension. Perhaps Sugimori had originally intended that in his designs for the games but could not really have it fit in the games.

 

[Maxim Posthumus]

OMG. The Giratina just changes its shape a bit for better (and possibly speeder) travelling between dimensions. It's NOTHING like Deoxys's forms. So no, it possibly is not going to be featured in the games. Unless the Movie 11 proves it's worth it... But I don't see any special features of that form, aside from changeable shape...

There are also issues with technical limitations. I know it may be solved (for example, that Giratina returns to it normal form after trade) . But I still don't see this....

 

[Silktree]

Also by Unown Lord's comments, I'm guessing he wasn't too impressed with the multiple versions of the same Pokemon like the Burmy and Shellos line?

I had no problem with them because they were not presented as innovative; they were designed to be what they were, as opposed to first being introduced in one form and receiving makeovers in later games. Of course, I found the scheme used for the Deoxys forms to be an excellent way of separating FireRed, LeafGreen and Emerald from Ruby and Sapphire. But for Game Freak to use the same scheme in the current generation would be to admit that they have run out of fresh ideas to establish distinction between the versions.

This reminds me - Arceus already occupies the multi-form legendary role for this generation. It is with good reason that form-changing is now done within the same game, even in Arceus' case.

There are also issues with technical limitations. I know it may be solved (for example, that Giratina returns to it normal form after trade) . But I still don't see this....

Under the assumption that Giratina is like Deoxys, which is problematic for other reasons, then you should know by now that there will be no technical limitations.

 

[empoleon dynamite]

I dont really like either form of Giratina, Something about its detail seems un-pokemon-like. If I had to choose over the six legged dragon or the Centepead with the crazy wings i'd choose the first one. The new ones head looks realy good though.

Maybe its origional form was before it died (it is a ghost type although ghost types are not dead). Maybe when he was bannished he changed form.

Anyway on topic of the third game, are there any download possibilities in Diamond and Pearl? For example, Diamond downloads the new form of Giratina from the third game.

 

[The Outrage]

Where did it say that Giratina was ever banished?

And I always here that, and I am wondering, what is it that one defines as a Pokemon?

I'm also wondering why would the movie make such a big deal about an alternate form? By "big deal" I mean, why mention it on the site? Is it merely to hype the movie up? That's what really made me speculate that it's available within the games, although Unown Lord and Maim's arguements have made me think otherwise (though it's not as if I'll stop speculating)

Maybe its origional form was before it died (it is a ghost type although ghost types are not dead). Maybe when he was bannished he changed form.

Perhaps it is called that in a sense that it needs a physical body in order to exist in our dimension. This "original form" could be it's true form, unrestricted by the limitations of our dimensional plain.

 

[Silktree]

Anyway on topic of the third game, are there any download possibilities in Diamond and Pearl? For example, Diamond downloads the new form of Giratina from the third game.

It seems that one would have a better case arguing for the ability to add new data to Ruby and Sapphire than one would have in regard to Diamond and Pearl.

Besides, what point would it serve? The only thing that matters in this context is the ability to conduct battles between a newer version and a Diamond/Pearl version; this is the true definition of compatibility between games. To a lesser extent, trading should be possible by taking advantage of data interchangeability. Beyond that, Game Freak has no reason to update older games with the very same content that is branded as exclusive to a newer game.