New/Old Pokemons in Unova! (COMPLETE new dex in first post)

Spindae2 · Apr 13, 2012

which Pokemons from gen 1-4 can we catch? And will the "Old" starters be obtainable ?

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COMPLETE:

Pokemon in the new Unova Dex:

#000 Victini
#001 Snivy: Aspertia City - Starter
#002 Servine
#003 Serperior
#004 Tepig: - Aspertia City - Starter
#005 Pignite
#006 Emboar
#007 Oshawott: Aspertia City - Starter
#008 Dewott
#009 Samurott
#010 Patrat: Route 19, Route 20, Sanji Ranch
#011 Watchog
#012 Purrloin: Route 19, Route 20
#013 Liepard
#014 Pidove: Route 20, Sanji Ranch, Tachiwaki Complex
#015 Tranquil
#016 Unfezant
#017 Sewaddle: Route 20
#018 Swadloon
#019 Leavanny
#020 Sunkern: Route 20
#021 Sunflora
#022 Lillipup: Sanji Ranch
#023 Herdier
#024 Stoutland
#025 Mareep: Sanji Ranch
#026 Flaaffy
#027 Ampharos
#028 Psyduck: Sanji Ranch
#029 Golduck
#030 Azurill: Sanji Ranch
#031 Marill
#032 Azumarill
#033 Riolu: Sanji Ranch
#034 Lucario
#035 Dunsparce: Shaking Grass; Route 20, Sanji Ranch
#036 Audino: Shaking Grass; Route 20, Sanji Ranch, Tachiwaki Complex
#037 Pansage
#038 Simisage
#039 Pansear
#040 Simisear
#041 Panpour
#042 Simipour
#043 Venipede: Double Grass; Route 20
#044 Whirlipede
#045 Scolipede
#046 Koffing: Tachiwaki Complex
#047 Weezing
#048 Magnemite: Tachiwaki Complex
#049 Magneton
#050 Magnezone
#051 Growlithe: Tachiwaki Complex
#052 Arcanine
#053 Magby: Exclusive to Black 2; Tachiwaki Complex
#054 Magmar
#055 Magmortar
#056 Elekid: Exclusive to White 2 Tachiwaki Complex
#057 Electabuzz
#058 Electivire
#059 Rattata: Castelia Sewers
#060 Raticate
#061 Zubat: Castelia Sewers
#062 Golbat
#063 Crobat
#064 Grimer: Castelia Sewers
#065 Muk
#066 Woobat
#067 Swoobat
#068 Roggenrola
#069 Boldore
#070 Gigalith
#071 Onix
#072 Steelix
#073 Timburr
#074 Gurdurr
#075 Conkeldurr
#076 Drilbur
#077 Excadrill
#078 Skitty: Exclusive to White 2; Castelia Park area
#079 Delcatty
#080 Buneary: Exclusive to Black 2; Castelia Park area
#081 Lopunny
#082 Cottonee: Exclusive to Black 2; Castelia Park area
#083 Whimsicott
#084 Petilil: Exclusive to White 2; Casetelia Park area
#085 Lilligant
#086 Munna
#087 Musharna
#088 Cleffa
#089 Clefairy
#090 Clefable
#091 Eevee: Castelia Park area
#092 Vaporeon
#093 Jolteon
#094 Flareon
#095 Espeon
#096 Umbreon
#097 Leafeon
#098 Glaceon
#099 Sandile
#100 Krokorok
#101 Krookodile
#102 Darumaka
#103 Darmanitan
#104 Basculin
#105 Trubbish
#106 Garbodor
#107 Minccino
#108 Cinccino
#109 Rufflet: Exclusive to White 2
#110 Braviary
#111 Vullaby: Exclusive to Black 2
#112 Mandibuzz
#113 Sandshrew: Desort Resort
#114 Sandslash
#115 Dwebble
#116 Crustle
#117 Scraggy
#118 Scrafty
#119 Maractus
#120 Sigilyph
#121 Trapinch
#122 Vibrava
#123 Flygon
#124 Yamask
#125 Cofagrigus
#126 Tirtouga
#127 Carracosta
#128 Archen
#129 Archeops
#130 Klink
#131 Klang
#132 Klinklang
#133 Budew
#134 Roselia
#135 Roserade
#136 Gothita: Exclusive to Black 2
#137 Gothorita
#138 Gothitelle
#139 Solosis: Exclusive to White 2
#140 Duosion
#141 Reuniclus
#142 Combee
#143 Vesipquen
#144 Emolga
#145 Heracross: Exclusive to Black 2
#146: Pinsir: Exclusive to White 2
#147 Blitzle
#148 Zebstrika
#149 Buizel
#150 Floatzel
#151 Zorua: Gift pokemon.
#152 Zoroark
#153 Ducklett
#154 Swanna
#155 Karrablast
#156 Escavalier
#157 Shelmet
#158 Accelgor
#159 Deerling
#160 Sawsbuck
#161 Foongus
#162 Amoonguss
#163 Castform
#164 Nosepass
#165 Probopass
#166 Aron
#167 Lairon
#168 Aggron
#169 Baltoy
#170 Claydol
#171 Larvesta
#172 Volcarona
#173 Joltik
#174 Galvantula
#175 Ferroseed
#176 Ferrothorn
#177 Tynamo
#178 Eelektrik
#179 Eelektross
#180 Frillish
#181 Jellicent
#182 Alomomola
#183 Axew
#184 Fraxure
#185 Haxorus
#186 Zangoose
#187 Seviper
#188 Elgyem
#189 Beheeyem
#190 Litwick
#191 Lampent
#192 Chandelure
#193 Heatmor
#194 Durant
#195 Cubchoo
#196 Beartic
#197 Cryogonal
#198 Tornadus
#199 Thundurus
#200 Landorus
#201 Skorupi
#202 Drapion
#203 Skarmory
#204 Numel: Exclusive to White 2
#205 Camerupt
#206 Spoink: Exclusive to Black 2
#207 Grumpig
#208 Drifloon
#209 Drifblim
#210 Shuppet
#211 Banette
#212 Wingull
#213 Pelipper
#214 Lunatone
#215 Solrock
#216 Absol
#217 Tangela
#218 Tangrowth
#219 Mienfoo
#220 Mienshao
#221 Gligar
#222 Gliscor
#223 Pawniard
#224 Bisharp
#225 Cobalion
#226 Terrakion
#227 Virizion
#228 Tympole
#229 Palpitoad
#230 Seismitoad
#231 Stunfisk
#232 Shuckle
#233 Mantyke
#234 Mantine
#235 Remoraid
#236 Octillery
#238 Corsola
#238 Staryu
#239 Starmie
#240 Wailmer
#241 Wailord
#242 Lapras
#243 Spheal
#244 Sealeo
#245 Walrein
#246 Swablu
#247 Altaria
#248 Vulpix
#249 Ninetales
#250 Bronzor
#251 Bronzong
#252 Sneasel
#253 Weavile
#254 Delibird
#255 Vanillite
#256 Vanillish
#257 Vanilluxe
#258 Swinub
#259 Piloswine
#260 Mamoswine
#261 Ditto
#262 Beldum
#263 Metang
#264 Metagross
#265 Seel
#266 Dewgong
#267 Throh
#268 Sawk
#269 Bouffalant
#270 Druddigon
#271 Golett
#272 Golurk
#273 Deino
#274 Zweilous
#275 Hydreigon
#276 Slakoth
#277 Vigoroth
#278 Slaking
#279 Corphish
#280 Crawdaunt
#281 Igglybuff
#282 Jigglypuff
#283 Wigglytuff
#284 Lickitung
#285 Lickilicky
#286 Yanma
#287 Yanmega
#288 Tropius
#289 Carnivine
#290 Croagunk
#291 Toxicroak
#292 Larvitar
#293 Pupitar
#294 Tyranitar
#295 Reshiram
#296 Zekrom
#297 Kyurem
#298 Keldeo
#299 Meloetta
#300 Genesect

Dr. Buni · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

I don't know, but I disliked the idea at first.
Now I'm ok with it, I just hope a lot of Johto and Sinnoh Pokémon are in there.

Pidgeot · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

I have an idea. I could list all the pre-Gen V Pokemon that are known to be in the new Unova Dex, and then update it as time goes on.

All currently known pre-Gen V Pokemon appearing in new Unova Dex:

026. Psyduck
027. Golduck
033. Riolu
034. Lucario
252. Beldum
253. Metang
254. Metagross
---. Eevee
---. Vaporeon
---. Jolteon
---. Flareon
---. Espeon
---. Umbreon
---. Leafeon
---. Glaceon
---. Growlithe
---. Arcanine
---. Lapras
---. Mareep
---. Flaaffy
---. Ampharos
---. Larvitar
---. Pupitar
--. Tyranitar
---. Buneary
---. Lopunny
---. Sneasel
---. Weavile
---. Mantyke
---. Mantine
---. Remoraid
---. Octillery
---. Azurill
---. Marill
---. Azumarill

Currently Known Pokemon: 191/300 (109 remaining)

Frugrow · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

I know a lot of people are going to roll their eyes at this, but we don't know if the 300 Pokemon are only Unova and old Pokemon. I'm hanging onto a tiny shred of hope that we'll get some new Pokemon. Not counting new forms of course.

Haters can stand to the right.

Dr. Buni · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

Frugrow said:
I know a lot of people are going to roll their eyes at this, but we don't know if the 300 Pokemon are only Unova and old Pokemon. I'm hanging onto a tiny shred of hope that we'll get some new Pokemon. Not counting new forms of course.

Haters can stand to the right.

I agree with you.
I think some of the 300 Pokemon are new evolutions or something.

Ennife · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

Nyarlathotep said:
Frugrow said:

I know a lot of people are going to roll their eyes at this, but we don't know if the 300 Pokemon are only Unova and old Pokemon. I'm hanging onto a tiny shred of hope that we'll get some new Pokemon. Not counting new forms of course.

Haters can stand to the right.

Click to expand...

I agree with you.
I think some of the 300 Pokemon are new evolutions or something.

I hope the two of you are right. I've always gotten bored of the remake games because there were no new pokemon.

hurristat · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

I dunno. I always thought that it was best to introduce new pokemon at the beginning of the generation, especially for issues of connectivity with the rest of the games in the generation. I'm expecting that all of the pokemon in the Isshu pokedex are already existing pokemon.

Force Fire · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

We have 152 Unova Pokémon (assuming Keldeo, Meloetta and Genesect aren't won't be in there). And the 30 old Pokémon GallifreyanGallade just mentioned.

That's 182 all up with 118 spots remaining.

I do not want to see new Pokémon, only the ones we know now. I'm hoping the usuals (Pikachu line, Rhydon line) are in there, not sure about the Zubat or Machop lines though.

Spindae2 · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

a new poke i could imagine is Krimigan pre evolution! I'm connecting this a bit to the anime, want Iris to catch a dragon!
a Basculin evolution!
but truly I don't belive into new ones appearing!

Rocky505 · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

GallifreyanGallade said:
I have an idea. I could list all the pre-Gen V Pokemon that are known to be in the new Unova Dex, and then update it as time goes on.

All currently known pre-Gen V Pokemon appearing in new Unova Dex:

026. Psyduck

027. Golduck

033. Riolu

034. Lucario

252. Beldum

253. Metang

254. Metagross

---. Eevee

---. Vaporeon

---. Jolteon

---. Flareon

---. Espeon

---. Umbreon

---. Leafeon

---. Glaceon

---. Growlithe

---. Arcanine

---. Lapras

---. Mareep

---. Flaaffy

---. Ampharos

---. Larvitar

---. Pupitar

---. Tyranitar

---. Buneary

---. Lopunny

---. Sneasel

---. Weavile

---. Mantyke

---. Mantine

You forgot Remoraid and Octillery. Remoraid is obviously going to be one since it is needed to evolve Mantyke.

Winterdaze · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

I'm hoping that Pokemon with hidden abilities will somehow be available in-game, which would certainly make the prospect of older Pokes returning more exciting. If that is the case, then hopefully Natu, Shroomish, Shinx and Spinda will be in there somewhere.

Pidgeot · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

Rocky505 said:
You forgot Remoraid and Octillery. Remoraid is obviously going to be one since it is needed to evolve Mantyke.

Hmm... I guess I could add them as well.

EDIT: Hopefully we'll get some old starter Pokemon as well, seeing as that's what we got in the Johto Dex.

GiraFragMich · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

I really hope they add some more fish pokemon. The Unova surfing routes were kinda boring with only Basculin and Alomomola. I also want Hippopotas & Skorupi for Route 4 and Nosepass for Chargestone Cave. Some Gible or Bagon in Dragonspiraltower would be cool too.

sunyshore · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

Well this much can pretty much confirm our starters remain the same, a pre-order poster from the Pokemon Center:
https://twitter.com/#!/nyomo/status/190735687807549440/photo/1/large

Rocky505 · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

Marill line needs to be added now.

Zeb · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

I guess that we're going to find the pokemon that were in eastern Unova in BW.

So, I'll hazard a guess at these:

Absol - Giant Chasm. I think we'll have to go back to Giant Chasm for Kyurem in this game (maybe. unless they change it all up) and Absol is usually fairly late in the game.
Heracross - not sure. Maybe Pinwheel Forest if we can't access it straight after getting to Castelia. Otherwise I'd say a later route.
Volbeat - probably an early route/forest depending how the map works.
Murkrow - Some route.
Misdreavus - Celestial Tower, probably. Or, considering it's in Mt. Silver, I suppose Twist Moutain or Chargestone or something. Maybe even Dragonspiral. Who knows.
Spheal - I'm hoping its available early on, because in R/S/E it came to late imo. But Ice-types are generally later in the game so I won't get my hopes up.
Horsea - early on if we get a fishing rod. If not, then probably once we get Surf or something.
Mareep - an early-ish route of course. I hope it doesn't replace Blitzle (I'd like both to be available near the beginning)
Mawile - Twist Mountain or Wellspring Cave maybe. Depends how the map works and if it has any new additions. Maybe even Route 4, provided we can still access the desert (I'm fairly certain we will, it's too huge an area to just cut it out)
Zangoose - I'd say in between Mistralton and Icirrus.
Gligar - the desert. Duh.
Feebas - probably fishing. I'm sure we'll get a rod at some point.
Buizel - this will be near the new pacifilog place below Driftveil. I'd bet my money on it.
Swinub - Twist Mountain.
Chimecho - Celestial Tower maybe? There's a bell on top, and chimecho has a bell. It was also found on Mt.Pyre which is a similar place to Celestial Tower.
Wingull - I think they might add these to the Ducklett spots.
Drifloon - Maybe you encounter one in Castelia City?

I won't post more suggestions atm because it's just getting tl;dr.

I really hope they don't include Tentacool, Geodude, Zubat, Gastly, Machop, and whatever else there is, though. They have a chance to give us an interesting dex, and with Roggenrola, Frillish, Litwick, Timburr etc I don't really think we need both lines. I can forgive Magikarp for some reason though, so I'd be fine they added it.

Vyrron · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova!

We're getting Growlithe, so I hope Vulpix will be included too. :3

Zeb · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova! (First post has currently known list!)

@Gallifreyian Gallade I added your list to the first post, just so it's easily findable. Hope you don't mind. I also added the Marill line to it, since they're on the leaflet-thing sunyshore posted, so that confirms them.

Composer · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova! (First post has currently known list!)

It would be neat if some more powerful things such as Beldum and Larvitar are added early in the games. Or,if not,Deino and Axew line,so that we can actually have their final evos by the end of the main storyline.

Rocky505 · Apr 13, 2012

Re: New/Old Pokemons in Unova! (First post has currently known list!)

Igzz said:
It would be neat if some more powerful things such as Beldum and Larvitar are added early in the games. Or,if not,Deino and Axew line,so that we can actually have their final evos by the end of the main storyline.

Beldum shouldn't be early or wild IMO. That thing has a 3 catch rate and has a very good chance of KOing it's self. It would be better for it to be a gift or a trade pokemon.

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