New Ultimate Pokemon Challenge

[RichieL1991]

This is... THE. ULTIMATE. POKEMON. CHALLENGE.

This is... The Generation (Family-Tree) Nuzlocke Challenge

6 Generations. 6 families of Pokemon. 6 straight Games. 6 straight Nuzlockes.

This is a challenge I have made up myself. The idea is to get through the first generation (Gen 1: FireRed/LeafGreen) while doing a nuzlocke challenge. Whatever pokemon are in your party after you beat the elite 4 in the Gen1 game have the opportunity to breed and send their eggs (offspring) to the next generation. This is where the challenge continues, in the next generation you must hatch the eggs and only use these pokemon (without letting them faint) to beat the elite 4. Once you beat the elite 4 the process continues - you breed those pokemon and send the eggs to the next generation. This continues all the way until Generation 6 (X and Y). The challenge is only successful if you defeat the Elite 4 in X and Y with the families of the original 6 pokemon you beat the Elite 4 with in Generation 1.


Here are the 5 specific rules:


1. Only the first 6-party team to beat the Elite 4 in generation 1 can breed to send their offspring to the next generation.

2. Female Pokemon offspring must breed the same pokemon. Males can breed with any pokemon in their egg group (to add variation).

3. All offspring must be named after their main parent. (i.e. [pokemon nickname] Jr., 2nd, II, 2, 3rd, III, 3, etc. etc.)

4. All offspring eggs are to be sent to the next generation and hatched in that game, where the challenge continues. (No additional pokemon can be captured after Generation 1) (Some restrictions do not allow for transfer of eggs. In this case just hatch and send the egg pokemon up).

5. Challenge is not complete until at least one of the original families beats the Elite 4 in the last generation (X & Y = 6th gen.)


Do to technical limitations, the generation will go as followed:
Gen 1 -- Gen 3 -- Gen 2 -- Gen 4 -- Gen 5 -- Gen 6
The reason is because Eggs from Gen 1 (FR/LG) can be sent up to the DS game on Gen 2 (HG/SS), however the Gen 2 eggs can't be sent back down to the gba Gen 3 games (R/S/E).



I am doing a play-through of the challenge now and recording it. I also have a video of further clarification of the rules (and optional rules). If anyone is interested you can just message.
So what do you all think? Time consuming = yes. But for a real poke-master? (;

 

[Ravioko]

This is... THE. ULTIMATE. POKEMON. CHALLENGE.

This is... The Generation (Family-Tree) Nuzlocke Challenge

6 Generations. 6 families of Pokemon. 6 straight Games. 6 straight Nuzlockes.

This is a challenge I have made up myself. The idea is to get through the first generation (Gen 1: FireRed/LeafGreen) while doing a nuzlocke challenge. Whatever pokemon are in your party after you beat the elite 4 in the Gen1 game have the opportunity to breed and send their eggs (offspring) to the next generation. This is where the challenge continues, in the next generation you must hatch the eggs and only use these pokemon (without letting them faint) to beat the elite 4. Once you beat the elite 4 the process continues - you breed those pokemon and send the eggs to the next generation. This continues all the way until Generation 6 (X and Y). The challenge is only successful if you defeat the Elite 4 in X and Y with the families of the original 6 pokemon you beat the Elite 4 with in Generation 1.


Here are the 5 specific rules:


1. Only the first 6-party team to beat the Elite 4 in generation 1 can breed to send their offspring to the next generation.

2. Female Pokemon offspring must breed the same pokemon. Males can breed with any pokemon in their egg group (to add variation).

3. All offspring must be named after their main parent. (i.e. [pokemon nickname] Jr., 2nd, II, 2, 3rd, III, 3, etc. etc.)

4. All offspring eggs are to be sent to the next generation and hatched in that game, where the challenge continues. (No additional pokemon can be captured after Generation 1) (Some restrictions do not allow for transfer of eggs. In this case just hatch and send the egg pokemon up).

5. Challenge is not complete until at least one of the original families beats the Elite 4 in the last generation (X & Y = 6th gen.)


Do to technical limitations, the generation will go as followed:
Gen 1 -- Gen 3 -- Gen 2 -- Gen 4 -- Gen 5 -- Gen 6
The reason is because Eggs from Gen 1 (FR/LG) can be sent up to the DS game on Gen 2 (HG/SS), however the Gen 2 eggs can't be sent back down to the gba Gen 3 games (R/S/E).



I am doing a play-through of the challenge now and recording it. I also have a video of further clarification of the rules (and optional rules). If anyone is interested you can just message.
So what do you all think? Time consuming = yes. But for a real poke-master? (;

As tempting as this is, isn't it also impossible? You can't access Pal Park in any DS game until after you beat the game. So you can't transfer GBA Pokemon to use throughout the story, unless you simply re-create the offspring in a hack.

 

[faucin]

As tempting as this is, isn't it also impossible? You can't access Pal Park in any DS game until after you beat the game. So you can't transfer GBA Pokemon to use throughout the story, unless you simply re-create the offspring in a hack.

technically you can, since you are required to have a DPPt game for the challenge, if you already won the game you can do the pal park thing there and then transfer them to a new save in HG/SS and then restart the DPPt to recieve the eggs from gen 2. but i agree with the point you're making

 

[Ravioko]

As tempting as this is, isn't it also impossible? You can't access Pal Park in any DS game until after you beat the game. So you can't transfer GBA Pokemon to use throughout the story, unless you simply re-create the offspring in a hack.

technically you can, since you are required to have a DPPt game for the challenge, if you already won the game you can do the pal park thing there and then transfer them to a new save in HG/SS and then restart the DPPt to recieve the eggs from gen 2. but i agree with the point you're making

Ah, right, you COULD do that...

 

[Nirreln]

Also don't use Emerald as it can't trade with FR/LG until you get the national dex or even get a non Hoenn pokemon from Ruby or Sapphire, so use Ruby or Sapphire.

 

[RichieL1991]

Also don't use Emerald as it can't trade with FR/LG until you get the national dex or even get a non Hoenn pokemon from Ruby or Sapphire, so use Ruby or Sapphire.

The same thing would apply here as Faucin mentioned earlier with HG/SS and DPPt. In Gen 3. after I beat LeafGreen I will trade the eggs to a Ruby game that I already beat and from there they will be traded to the Emerald game I will be playing, since you can trade from R/S to Emerald without even needing a gym badge I believe.

 

[Stuntology]

Pretty interesting concept, but I'd personally lift the 'no pokemon can be captured after the first game' rule. With it, there's way too big of a penalty for the death of a party member.

 

[RichieL1991]

Pretty interesting concept, but I'd personally lift the 'no pokemon can be captured after the first game' rule. With it, there's way too big of a penalty for the death of a party member.

Yeah that was one of the optional rules available. I also made a more specific version, where you could use a "sibling" so if one of the hatched pokemon dies you can use their brother or sister which you would send over in the beginning and box. Or be able to catch another pokemon on the route. Of course as long as at least ONE of the original pokemons family descendants are still alive.

 

[TerraTF]

This would be a good thing for Pokemon ROMs where you can hack in the babies. Plus its kinda tough to bring Eggs from HGSS to RSE

 

[RichieL1991]

Yep ROMs make it easier, there are some devices that can help with the whole process though. Although some are tough to get, like the AR DSi with the micro-sd slot.

 

[hakiobo]

Do to technical limitations, the generation will go as followed:
Gen 1 -- Gen 3 -- Gen 2 -- Gen 4 -- Gen 5 -- Gen 6
The reason is because Eggs from Gen 1 (FR/LG) can be sent up to the DS game on Gen 2 (HG/SS), however the Gen 2 eggs can't be sent back down to the gba Gen 3 games (R/S/E).

This would be a good thing for Pokemon ROMs where you can hack in the babies. Plus its kinda tough to bring Eggs from HGSS to RSE

exactly why he said this.

 

[RichieL1991]

Yeah It's not even possible to bring eggs from HGSS to RSE. At least not to my knowledge legitimately anyways. It'd be interesting if hacked ROMs like Liquid Crystal could trade with RSE though, but I have never tried it.

 

[MDMassey]

Sometimes the hacked games like Darkcry and Liquid Crystal can trade to the legit versions but most of the time the game save of the legit version becomes corrupt and that spells game over.

While this is an interesting concept and I know that FR and LG are technically the first generation, due to the release of the games wouldnt it be easier to play RSE cames first to make the migrating easier? Ruby to FireRed to Diamond to SoulSilver to Black to White2 to X? While not true to the release of the regions this makes the migration problems much easier to solve.

Dom

 

[Proxima Centauri B]

Mod Note: Ive seen a few mentions of Pokemon ROM Hacks in this thread. Please remember that discussion of these types of games is not allowed on this forum, just something to keep in mind.