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North Korea threatens to "wipe the US off the map"

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North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map as Washington and its allies watched for signs the regime will launch a series of missiles in the coming days.

Off China's coast, a U.S. destroyer was tailing a North Korean ship suspected of transporting illicit weapons to Myanmar in what could be the first test of U.N. sanctions passed to punish the nation for an underground nuclear test last month.

The Kang Nam left the North Korean port of Nampo a week ago with the USS John S. McCain close behind. The ship, accused of transporting banned goods in the past, is believed bound for Myanmar, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.

The new U.N. Security Council resolution requires member states to seek permission to inspect suspicious cargo. North Korea has said it would consider interception a declaration of war and on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking to provoke another Korean War.

"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.

The warning came on the eve of the 59th anniversary of the start of the three-year Korean War, which ended in a truce in 1953, not a peace treaty, leaving the peninsula in state of war.

The U.S. has 28,500 troops in South Korea to protect against an outbreak of hostilities.

Tensions have been high since North Korea launched a long-range rocket in April and then conducted its second underground atomic test on May 25.

Reacting to U.N. condemnation of that test, North Korea walked away from nuclear disarmament talks and warned it would fire a long-range missile.

North Korea has banned ships from the waters off its east coast starting Thursday through July 10 for military exercises, Japan's Coast Guard said.

South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported Wednesday that the North may fire a Scud missile with a range of up to 310 miles (500 kilometres) or a short-range ground-to-ship missile with a range of 100 miles (160 kilometres) during the no-sail period.

A senior South Korean government official said the no-sail ban is believed connected to North Korean plans to fire short-or mid-range missiles. He spoke on condition of anonymity, citing department policy.

U.S. defence and counterproliferation officials in Washington said they also expected the North to launch short-to medium-range missiles. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.

South Korea will expedite the introduction of high-tech unmanned aerial surveillance systems and "bunker-buster" bombs in response to North Korea's provocations, the Chosun Ilbo newspaper said, citing unidentified ruling party members.

Meanwhile, a flurry of diplomatic efforts were under way to try getting North Korea to return to disarmament talks.

Russia's top nuclear envoy, Alexei Borodavkin, said after meeting with his South Korean counterpart that Moscow is open to other formats for discussion since Pyongyang has pulled out of formal six-nation negotiations.

In Beijing, top U.S. and Chinese defence officials also discussed North Korea. U.S. Defence Undersecretary Michele Flournoy was heading next to Tokyo and Seoul for talks.

South Korea has proposed high-level "consultations" to discuss North Korea with the U.S., Russia, China and Japan.
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Oh boy. And while wiping the U.S. off the map would be very difficult (because we'd wipe them off before they even got a tenth of us gone) I'm a little nervous, since I live 60 miles south of Seattle.

Crap. North Korea, what ever you do, don't press that button. You know not what you are dealing with.
 
OH NOES!

In other news, I have a giant laser on the moon, forming what you may call a "Death Star." Unless you pay me a ransom of 1 trillion dollars, I will blow up every city on the earth.

But seriously, their longest-range missile can maybe reach Hawaii. We have nuclear subs and ICBMs that can wipe them off the map. They aren't in a position to threaten.
 
It's like watching Bambi try to pick a fight with Godzilla.
 
I'd say having nuclear weapons is a good position to threaten from. They may not be able to do much damage to us, but they'll do damage somewhere. And I'd prefer that no damage be done. Even if they end up blowing themselves up.
 
The UN better get it's act together andf pressure China harder into making life miserable for Kim Jong Il.

No more talking. The only thing this psycho will answer to is a gun to the head.
 
Oh just nuke him already.

Who cares how horrible it was what happened in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Who cares how much worse it'd be now considering we have FUSION bombs rather than just fission, with MULTIPLE warheads and THOUSANDS of times the power. They are asking for it.

People will die. That's a given. But I doubt the people of North Korea can be saved. It's said that Kim Jong-il's got a cult of personality, and shit, even if the people are scared out of their minds, they're as dangerous as any cult is when ordered by their ruler. And hell, even if Kim died, they could still say he was making the orders-- Scientology's still making money by saying they discovered "new" Hubbard books and shit, and the fucker's been dead for twenty-three years.

So, in closing, I disagree with Arcane. They won't answer to a gun to the head. They'll keep mouthing off until we shoot. And in some cases, it's what you have to do to keep everyone else safe.

Japan didn't deserve what happened in 1945. Not compared to this. At least there was the ability to take on Japan through conventional force (which we decided not to use because HOW DARE WE get the commies' help there), but here, we've let this regime go far, far, FAR too long for there to be any chance at all of reasoning with them otherwise. They want to be nuked. I don't see any other possibility. Maybe they think they'll be martyrs for the anti-American cause. Maybe they will be seen as that by some. But really, I'd rather not see two nuclear bombs dropped instead of one.
 
Okay, so say we do nuke them. This would probably cause problems for our allies in North Korea, destabilize the entire region, make us look bad for using "excessive force" on an enemy, and potentially make us look like a threat to everyone. I don't think nuking others is going to solve any issues. It'll just create bigger ones.
 
Say they nuke our allies, like South Korea. We can't just not respond, and no President in his right mind would do that. If NoKo launches off a nuke like they are completely capable of doing, we would be forced to retaliate, and the ONLY way to do so is to fire back with the same. You don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

We're forced either way to launch off the most horrid weapon ever created by mankind, and to scorch the Earth with the might of the Sun. But that's what happens when you don't contain a problem.
 
The US better have a spare Little Boy and Fat Man in their White house...
 
TTEchidna said:
Say they nuke our allies, like South Korea. We can't just not respond, and no President in his right mind would do that. If NoKo launches off a nuke like they are completely capable of doing, we would be forced to retaliate, and the ONLY way to do so is to fire back with the same. You don't bring a knife to a gunfight.
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It'd be nice if people thought like that, but anymore I'm rather unsure. Too many people nowadays don't seem to get the message. If talking doesn't work after the tenth or so time--it will never work. Get over it.

In the end I suspect the states will do something and then you'll have to put up with the extremists who call us all "evil" for stopping a crazy man.
 
Why does it have to be America's problem? They haven't got a missile that can reach us and they sure as hell haven't figured out how to make a nuke small enough to fit on a missile.

Let South Korea and China deal with it. They've got a lot more at stake than we do.
 
China won't do a damn thing. South Korea's trying. And it IS our problem because he is directly threatening US.
 
Arcane Mind said:
China won't do a damn thing. South Korea's trying. And it IS our problem because he is directly threatening US.
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Not to mention, which is better? Being insulted because we helped people? Or being insulted because we did nothing? Although helping people with no insults would be nice, it just won't ever happen. Every time the US helps a country out, as soon as everything gets better, they immediately turn on us (and so do our own people) and complain. "Get out of there, leave them alone, mind you own business!"

Although part of me wants to say screw'em, I can't. These people don't need to die because of some crazy man, I'd rather be a country hated for helping others than looking like a heartless jerk.
 
Again, I will say "Let them attack us if they dare. We'll blow your missile up before it barely leaves the launch site."
 
Nuking is always the best solution. Especially when we just want to show how big and bad we are. And of course, that radiation is going to help EVERYONE out, won't it. Let's not forget our ramifications other countries will no doubt give us. Yep, let's nuke[/sarcasm]

Why don't we let someone else deal with this?
 
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