Notability of Fandom Members

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Recently, there has been some debate on Bulbapedia in regards to which Fandom members are deserving of their own articles. Some users believe that members such as Archaic, Ledian X, Blackjack Gabbiani and others don't need their own articles. However, some of these Fandom members are indeed notable, having been around for years and made significant contributions to the Pokémon online community. There are some articles that I can see their point on (as some articles are just a sentence long, while others are about moderators on forums that, to my knowledge, haven't done anything else).

We need to draw the line somewhere.
 
^Personally I think the only people in need of articles are notadble mods, admins and webmasters. Not everyone has the need for their own page, that's what we have user talk and BulbaJournels for.
 
Are people really debating those handful of articles?

I see now. Darth Cookie Monster is throwing a hissy fit. (as a user that has only been around since August of 2007, and isn't a frequent user of the forums, it's no wonder he doesn't know anyone)

Having articles on webmasters, admins, and mods that have have made important contributions to the fandom is a no-brainer.

That being said, there are a few articles that are questionable. (not the ones DCM has been harping over, though.)
 
Why not just have one page dedicated to members worth mentioning? That way people that deserve recognition get it but there's not tons of pages going around for people to complain about.

Why are mods mentioned? I don't think we're that important to the overall Pokemon community.
 
Individuals who have created a significant impact on the Pokémon community deserve an article. Nobody else.
 
I generally find it unnecessary unless they have made a massive and groundbreaking impact or even a fundamental change to the way the community works.
In other cases it usually ends up becoming "epeen" stroking (I have witnessed this in other gaming wikis) and that should be avoided at all costs in my opinion. You could have an article on Bulbapedia itself and about the individuals that have set it up, but nothing more than that. Being a moderator does not mean you receive a page on the wiki, even if you are notable. Humility is a virtue and should be practiced more often nowadays. Again I do not contribute to the wiki, however I do use it regularly so these my views as a user.
 
The userpages and talk pages are way more of an exercise in "epeen" stoking than those articles could ever hope to be. A look at the history of each article shows that they are never touched except for minor edits. (and the subjects of said articles hardly ever touch them)
 
If we touched the articles about ourselves, that'd be real epeen stroking (and totally lose any sense of impartiality).

Certainly, the articles need a bit of streamlining, with some deletions, and maybe a merge or two. Some people are probably best listed as sub-headings under the articles for the sites they were a part of, though it'd be difficult to do that for people who've been staff of multiple sites, like myself.
 
Gets your hands off my epeen Neku, and stop trying to stroke it. (Only Kasumi's allowed to do that ;) )

Seriously though, any articles about fandom members probably need to be approved on the forums here first, so their notability can be discussed and established.
 
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I personally think that we shouldn't even have articles about fandom members in the first place, as they could easily become a source of abuse.

Certain articles about certain members could be easily vandalized by people who bare grudges against those members.

Imagine an article on Weedle Mchairybug and the enusing shitstorm.
 
We have had to deal with that issue in the past, with Serebii's page. Easily solved by locking it. And let's be honest here...once the fandom members of note pages are created, they don't need to be edited again in most cases (being that most "notable" fans are essentially historical figures to the fandom now).
 
So, which of us are notable enough? What are the critera to get an article? :\
 
I read some of the articles yesterday after reading this thread and I must say almost every single had me going "who the fuck cares?". There are articles on people who aren't even here anymore and most people who have entries did nothing interesting. The only good one was the page on Damian Silverblade and the fact that there was edrama between him and Archaic. That one did offer some lulz for a bit. The others were short, boring and pretty much irrelevant. I doubt this will deter people to continue the articles and posting more but I don't truly see the point.
 
I definitely agree that not everybody in the fandom needs their own page. I also went through most of the pages in there, and many of them are just one sentence long. It also doesn't help that a couple of them (Mozz, Ledian X) were created by the subjects themselves.

I also agree with Archaic that some should just get a sub-heading on the main article's page. Some of the articles are simply about somebody who was a moderator, and it doesn't mention what else they have done, if anything.
 
PAK Man said:
It also doesn't help that a couple of them (Mozz, Ledian X) were created by the subjects themselves.
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Well that stands in stark contrast to what has been argued earlier. I still argue that noone needs their own page and if its absolutely necessary then include them on the page of their site, like Blackjack suggests.
 
Small question:
How notable is notable? Especially how they are, in the end, just fans.

Plus I've never heard of those members you mention :X
 
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