OU SAND STALL [a failing venture]

[Grisly Bear]

Okay, so I've been testing this team for a bit and i still have a losing ratio of about 1:2 and don't know how to fix it. any help would be appreciated.

Hippowdon
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP, 168 Def, 88 SpD
Item: Leftovers

Stealth Rock
Earthquake
Ice Fang
Slack Off

This Hippowdon has a lot of success on the team as a lead because it also acts as a wall and can even take down a few enemy pokemon because of STAB Earthquake and so many pokemon that are weak to ice that even without stab Ice Fang deals a lot of damage.

Forretress
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP, 112 Atk, 144 Def
Item: Leftovers

Spikes
Rapid Spin
Gyro Ball
Explosion

This guy acts as a spiker and spinner while doing some damage with Gyro Ball and acting as a sweeper check with Explosion. He also can wall many Physical attacks and more then a few resisted special attacks.

Breloom
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 4 HP, 252 Atk, 252 Spe
Item: Toxic Orb

Spore
Focus Punch
Substitute
Leech Seed

This is the guy I am most likely to replace. When he comes in, most people switch so I usually open with Leech Seed followed by Spore. This increases recovery and allows him to use more subs as well as survive longer in sandstorm. once he gets a sub up he starts punching things in the face. I use jolly because people expect him to be Adamant or Impish so the speed gives me a chance at beating their counter. He also is a status absorber.

Salamence
Nature: Rash
EVs: 80 hp, 252 SpA, 176 Spe
Item: Life Orb

Draco Meteor
Fire Blast
Brick Break
Roost

The wall breaker of the team. Draco Meteor takes a huge chunk out of anything that doesn't resist it and Fire Blast takes a chunk out of anything that does. Brick Break is there because the things that can take Draco Meteor and Fire Blast probably can't take a Brick Break and stay in. Roost for survivability and removal of ice and rock weakness for a turn.

Cradily
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP, 96 Def, 160 SpD
Item: Leftovers

Rock Slide
Toxic
Recover
Protect

This is my special wall that can take a physical hit. It also acts as a bulky water counter by using the ToxiStall strategy. Rock Slide for STAB.

Gyarados
Nature: Impish
EVs: 248 HP, 248 Def, 12 Spe
Item: Leftovers

Rest
Sleep Talk
Roar
Waterfall

Staller, status absorber, and shuffler all in one, the primary problem with him is that his STAB attack isn't obscenely powerful.



I have been thinking about switching Breloom for a SubRoost Aerodactyl or a Bulky SubSeeder. I may also change Forretress to a Specially defensive version or to a Special Defense Skarmory for shuffling and immunity to ground. Anyone have any suggestions?

 

[coolking503]

this isnt stall. stall needs toxic spikes and a ghost type to absorb rapid spin. stall doesnt need a wall breaker. you also may want a second special wall, since something like jynx sweeps your team.

 

[Badal]

i had written a huge thing about your team, but then BMGf died, so I lost it.
though stall sucks with sand. If you're using a sandstorm team, ttar is a must. You would be better off running a non stall sandstorm team. Though if you're going for stall then use cool kings advice

 

[coolking503]

um, no its not, hippo works just as well.it has sand stream too. And sandstall works wonders played right

 

[Badal]

um, no its not, hippo works just as well.it has sand stream too. And sandstall works wonders played right

Not this team, in sandstorm won't work as a good stall team.

 

[Grisly Bear]

wouldent a wall breaker be good for if say, any steel type switches in? cuase they take no sandstorm damage and they cant be toxiced?

 

[Jaxon]

That it would but you alredy have mence and couldnt Breloom and ur Hippowdon with EQ take-out those steel types?(Except maybe skarmory, metagross and bronzong but mence can deal with them)

 

[Grisly Bear]

That it would but you alredy have mence and couldnt Breloom and ur Hippowdon with EQ take-out those steel types?(Except maybe skarmory, metagross and bronzong but mence can deal with them)

yeah but cool said i wouldent need mence becuase it is an attacker and this is a stall team. im going to replace breloom with tentacruel for a second spinner and a special wall plus it has toxic spikes support

 

[cyrus106]

I'm honestly suprised nobody has suggested this but, sometimes you can find a good wall (three, actually) in the BU tier....the regis. Regirock has 200 base defense, so put some SP. Def Evs on him, along with some hp EVs put him in a sandstorm and watch him take TONS of hits.

 

[Grisly Bear]

old topic is old but thank you for the advise