Paul's team against Ash in Sinnoh League: who would you have picked?

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I keep seeing comments posted about how the only reason Ash is gonna beat Paul in the Sinnoh League is because Paul isn't using the heavy hitters he had during his last battle with Ash (except for Electivire). "Where's Torterra?" ,"Ash is LUCKY he don't have to face Ursaring again!". And so on & so on....... While I kinda agree that Paul could use something else that we were used to (Froslass & Gastrodon threw me off completely when I saw them), it wasn't terrible that we got to see something new on his team (Drapion says hi). So, what I'm basically asking is, what 6 Pokemon would you have wanted to see Paul use in his final match against Ash?

Here's my list:
Torterra
Electivire
Magmortar
Gastrodon
Drapion
Ninjask
 
Here's what I think:
-Torterra
-Electivire
-Magmortar
-Ursaring
-Gliscor
-Aggron
 
Torterra
Electivire
Magmortar
Ursaring
Honchkrow
Aggron

So the same team as lake Valor except Aggron>>>>>Weavile
 
Considering that Paul didn’t know that Ash was using the same team as he did in the last full battle (it makes since because Ash was using Pokemon from Oak’s lab) until their actual SL match-up I would choose the following:

Torterra
Drapion
Electavire
Magmortar
Urasring
Gastrodon/Froslass (can’t decide because they both can learn a variety of moves)
Honorable Mention: Honchrow

Drapion to basically rape Ash’s team with Posion to weaken them and Urasring to come in with the finishing blow, though Drapion is shown to be able to deal a powerful blow to half of Ash’s team. I find it funny how Drapion inflicts status conditions and then takes out Ash’s Pokemon while Urasring needs a status condition to activate Guts then slams Ash’s Pokemon (aside from using Bulk Up).

Now the only one he KNEW Ash was going to use was Infernape and I think that Haze could nullify the effects of Blaze (it’s not Gastro Acid) because Blaze raises a Pokemon’s stats to increase Fire attacks so I think Blaze would be cancelled out by Haze. We didn’t see enough of Magmorar, Electavire for its rivalry with Pikachu/Infernape and Torterra because well it’s Paul’s starter and a powerhouse. Froslass and Gastrodon use their unusual abilities and body structures to dominate Ash’s Pokemon (Froslass’ Hail to activate Snow Cloak and Gastrodon’s extending appendages).
 
Paulisthebest said:
Now the only one he KNEW Ash was going to use was Infernape and I think that Haze could nullify the effects of Blaze (it’s not Gastro Acid) because Blaze raises a Pokemon’s stats to increase Fire attacks so I think Blaze would be cancelled out by Haze. We didn’t see enough of Magmorar, Electavire for its rivalry with Pikachu/Infernape and Torterra because well it’s Paul’s starter and a powerhouse. Froslass and Gastrodon use their unusual abilities and body structures to dominate Ash’s Pokemon (Froslass’ Hail to activate Snow Cloak and Gastrodon’s extending appendages).
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Haze is a move to remove all stat ups used by the pokemon being Hazed to 0. This means if a Weavile uses Swords Dance and a Weezing uses Haze those sword dances are nullified. Blaze however is an ability that doesn't get interrupted by Haze. Infernape's actual stat doesn't change rather just powers up his Fire moves , Not his actual stats therefore Haze does nothing to Blaze. If Paul wanted to remove Blaze he would have to use Gastro Acid or Mold Breaker Raparados
 
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Electivire
Magmortar
Torterra
Drapion
Froslass
Ninjask

Ninjask, Froslass, and Drapion impressed me a lot and can take over for Honchkrow, Weavile, and Ursaring respectively.

Not to mention, this team is pretty much the elemental/flyer/wildcard version of Paul's.
 
Seems like most people wanted to see him use old pokemon, not new ones. I think his stratigy of using new ones was good, but that he still should have thrown in some old ones too. I would have gone with...

Torterra
Magmortar
Electivire
Dorapion
Ninjask
Frosslass

Dorapion is awesome, and Ninjask and Frosslass were cool pokemon for him to have too, and have interesting types. But I was really surprised the writers didn;t at least have him use Torterra, since its his *starter* and Ash has one, and its super powerful, and we didn't get to see it in his battle with Barry. Same with Magmortar.
 
Torterra
Electivire
Froslass
Honchkrow
Aggron
Drapion

Ninjask really had no purpose, and Gastrodon really bugged me.
 
Paul's team in the SL doesn't have any repeats in typing so I would choose

Torterra
Magmortar
Electivire
Ursaring
Honchkrow
Froslass
 
There's nothing wrong with the team he has now. The big differences from the last battle than with this one is that the strategies Paul is using are different as are the pokemon. We've still seen excellent strategy on Paul's side. The pokemon may not be as uber as last time. But the strategy is still there and one of the reasons Ash lost to Paul was that he was able to predict all of his pokemon. Why would Paul not take his own advice and choose the same pokemon as last time just for power's sake and be predictable? He doesn't want to be predictable which was why the pokemon are different minus Infernape. We see the same things as last battle such as Paul using his pokemon's ability to aid it in battle. I wouldn't change the line-up at all.
 
I'd keep it the same, just swap Ninjask for Magmortar.

Ninjask was pointless, I would have preferred to see Magmortar Vs. Infernape.
 
Psychotic said:
Haze is a move to remove all stat ups used by the pokemon being Hazed to 0. This means if a Weavile uses Swords Dance and a Weezing uses Haze those sword dances are nullified. Blaze however is an ability that doesn't get interrupted by Haze. Infernape's actual stat doesn't change rather just powers up his Fire moves , Not his actual stats therefore Haze does nothing to Blaze. If Paul wanted to remove Blaze he would have to use Gastro Acid or Mold Breaker Raparados
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Hey, thanks for the information in the game I was a bit confused as to whether or not Haze affected my Infernape’s Blaze. Now I get it, using Calm Mind raises stats and can be erased by Haze or copied by Psych Up. Though I think that Paul would rather see the true power of the controlled Blaze rather than erase it from the competition. He must know that the only real way to test his power and style as a trainer would be to go up against the power that he failed to unlock.

Gliscor'd said:
I'd keep it the same, just swap Ninjask for Magmortar.

Ninjask was pointless, I would have preferred to see Magmortar Vs. Infernape.
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I agree that thing has so much potential especially in the speed department. It used Agility to drastically increase its speed along with Speed Boost, and its barrage of Fury Cutter (that gets stronger each time it hits) did a lot of damage to Gliscor. Ninjask could have been more of a threat than it was (one hit knock out from a Mach Punch on a Bug/Flying type *sigh* what a waste…). Paul could have used it to continuously dodge Ash’s attacks while his Pokemon lost more and more HPs from being poisoned. I think the only reason it was on the team was for the fans to see that he kept it after we were all guessing from seeing it being caught in Glory Blaze.

Magmortar vs. Infernape; well based on its known moves, Magmortar would be at a disadvantage. Infernape’s Mach Punch could easily smash Rock Tomb. I could see Flamethrower vs. Flamethrower, Smog could be countered by using Dig but Magmortar has jumping power to dodge yet Infernape wins with its speed or Counter Shield could wipe out Smog like Pikachu did. It doesn’t have to worry about Flame Body or Will-o-Wisp (despite Charizard vs. Dusclops illustrated) so I think hands down Infernape gets the win…from what we KNOW about Magmortar which isn’t really much.
 
- Torterra
- Electivire
- Drapion
- Frosslass
- Ninjask
- Gastrodon

Seriously, I was really disappointed that he didn't use Torterra. When I saw Ash's Torterra in Greatest Everyday opening and it was basically confirmed that Grotle would evolve, I hoped to see Ash's Torterra against Paul's :(. Otherwise Paul's team was okay.
 
I like the whole idea of avoiding the use of reusing the same Pokemon over and over against a rival that you have battled many times before. It’s just that there are so many things that the writers just seemed to throw away by doing so; Torterra never got its revenge on Honchrow or Gliscor’s rematch against its group leader. Not to mention Buizel getting a shot against Urasring (though it did beat Gastrodon).

Pikachu and Electavire are going to duke it out again as well as Infernape going against the Thunderbolt Pokemon.

With the team Paul has he is using Ash’s own strategy against him it seems; the Counter Shield and Ice Aqua Jet. He saw Buizel use it in the Wallace Cup and he knew an Ice attack against it would lead Buizel to use the move. I think that he knew Ash was going to use it so he ordered an Ice Beam that Buizel could grab and the force from the Ice Aqua Jet impact would send Gastrodon off the ground with enough force for it to use a full power Body Slam attack that would pin down Buizel (that’s what I think he wouldn’t deliberately let an Ice Jet hit without a backup strategy).
 
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