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PMD- should the old protagonists return as NPCs?

For Mystery Dungeon? I dunno. They don't have a concrete species to pin down, nor do they have a solid canon personality. There's not much to identify them, and they're not iconic. At least with the main series protagonists, we have canon names and designs. For this to work, they'd have to have a personality make-over and a canon species - and at that point, you're basically just making new characters who went through the events of previous games.

If the old PMD protags show up, what do they do? I don't see them adding much, unless they're just glorified cameos you can battle. But I guess rewriting their personalities would allow you to give them a direction and purpose in a story.
 
well we do know that the PSMD protagonist was a little snarky...but i see your point
they would have to add some more stuff about the humans...but i think that would be kinda cool
 
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This is like asking whether the Links of previous Zelda games should have cameo appearances in later ones.

Or whether previous Elder Scrolls protagonists (which can be any of 10 species) should also have cameos in later games.

In either case, each individual game is separated by enough time that whatever the player's deeds achievements in a previous game were are moot for the later game's canon.
 
Stratelier said:
This is like asking whether the Links of previous Zelda games should have cameo appearances in later ones.

Or whether previous Elder Scrolls protagonists (which can be any of 10 species) should also have cameos in later games.

In either case, each individual game is separated by enough time that whatever the player's deeds achievements in a previous game were are moot for the later game's canon.
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um...wolf link amiibo and uncle sheo are past game protagonists
 
It's been a while since I've played PMD so my memory might be hazy, but I think it'd be easier and a bit more fun to see old protagonist partners return, to fight alongside you or just as a cameo. You could choose the species/name yourself for full immersion, and the personality of the partner would depend on, well, what game the partner is from.
 
Ohaxer said:
um...wolf link amiibo and uncle sheo are past game protagonists
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Eh, wolf link is an amiibo so its not exactly canon, and I don’t actually know who “uncle sheo” is?

However, there is the Hero’s Shade from Twilight Princess, who is explicitly stated to be the Link from OoT. And to be honest, I don’t think that worked out too well. It didn’t matter if it was a past Link or not, it could’ve been anyone.

Anyway, I’m just saying I agree that including past protags would be weird. It’s bad enough that the main series canonized Red, but if MD did it they’d have to canonize a species and potentially more personal information for a protagonist return.

Having said that, MD does like to deal with Pokémon rebirth and such, like in PSMD
Partner being Mew
, or even just the idea of humans being reborn as/ transformed into Pokémon. I think they could potentially get away with something like that where you meet a Pokémon (maybe legendary or mythical) that happens to have been an old protagonist or partner and remembers events from whatever game they were in.
 
BigBadButterfree said:
Eh, wolf link is an amiibo so its not exactly canon, and I don’t actually know who “uncle sheo” is?
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Sheogorath, Daedric Prince ("god") of Madness from The Elder Scrolls series.
In The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, one of the DLC packs is called the "Shivering Isles" which involves a a rare cataclysm occurring in Sheogorath's realm (the titular Isles). The DLC questline ends with the player character having quelled it, and being crowned the new Sheogorath in the process.

Then in The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim, there is a sidequest where you meet Sheogorath (who seems to remember various events from Oblivion). This Sheogorath is presented as a white-haired Nord (human) regardless of the player's actual character (human, elf, orc, lizard, cat) in Oblivion.

Nonetheless, it's generally true that if the player is allowed to design their own protagonist, it's difficult-to-impossible for that character to cameo in a later game (especially without checking for the prior game's save data, which itself might be impossible depending on the system).
 
Stratelier said:
Sheogorath, Daedric Prince ("god") of Madness from The Elder Scrolls series.
In The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion, one of the DLC packs is called the "Shivering Isles" which involves a a rare cataclysm occurring in Sheogorath's realm (the titular Isles). The DLC questline ends with the player character having quelled it, and being crowned the new Sheogorath in the process.

Then in The Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim, there is a sidequest where you meet Sheogorath (who seems to remember various events from Oblivion). This Sheogorath is presented as a white-haired Nord (human) regardless of the player's actual character (human, elf, orc, lizard, cat) in Oblivion.

Nonetheless, it's generally true that if the player is allowed to design their own protagonist, it's difficult-to-impossible for that character to cameo in a later game (especially without checking for the prior game's save data, which itself might be impossible depending on the system).
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Ah, I guess I didn’t realize the elder scrolls was mentioned, I was trying to think of someone in Zelda named sheo XD but yeah, I’ve never played oblivion so I didn’t know that connection to skyrim. Interesting.

As for your other point, yeah I think the system is mostly what makes the difference. I’ve never played them much but I know of the Mass Effect series for Xbox. For 2 and 3 you can choose to play as the same character from your save data of the previous installment. And I believe that affects more than just what he/she looks like, such as decisions made and whatnot. But of course, those are all for the same system, which makes it much easier to access the save data of the previous game. As opposed to the PMD series, where it releases so spread out there’s no telling if it’ll be on the same system or not.
 
If memory serves, most of the protagonists are completely unique to personality tests and have no finite gender or species. I can see side-characters making a return, but not protagonists. That would just be weird.

Also, Wolf Link is an Amiibo? Omg, I so need to get one for BOTW! <3
 
Not really, I don't like the idea of canonising the species and gender, I'd rather they just mention they did stuff. So like Wigglytuff: "You remind me of our best ever recruits, they saved the world" and blah blah blah
 
I agree with Muur. Making NPCs out of previous PMD protagonists would be a very sticky business since they're infinitely more customisable on the visual side than Red and have talked a lot more than him. Unless one of our hypothetical NPCs is a species of the Treecko, Cyndaquil, or Chikorita lines, I'd have a hard time viewing them to be the characters I named and played as.
 
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