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Poké Radar in XY

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Hello , people!

I'm creating this topic to learn your experiences with the Poké Radar! I've been trying so hard to get long chains, but they always break at 15 Pokemon, and so far I wasn't able to get any shiny that way. Two times I got a 33 and a 22 chain ( Chatot ) and once a 27 chain ( Pachirisu ). My only shiny was a Haunter by luck-only, without chaining. It was my first luck-only shiny in years playing Pokémon!

Well! I'm intrigued with the Poké Radar in this game because apparently it is working different from the old Poké Radar from Gen IV, which I got to develop several long chains and got some shinies with little training. However, everyone on the internet are making tutorials like it was exactly the same mechanics! I'm doing all the steps I did in my Pokemon Platinum, where it worked, but in XY, the chain always breaks easily. Few are the people I see commenting in forums that chains break if they do the same way they did before. These people say they just go in the most shaking and farthest grass, bypassing most of the other rules that existed in Gen IV Poké Radar, and thus succeeded doing longer chains.

Another thing is that all the tutorials teach to make chains in " perfect " areas with 5 grass circles from your character, but it is not possible to find that for every Pokémon in the game. Chatot, for example (my goal at the moment), can't be found in very good areas... How to chain these Pokes if the old rules doesn't apply!? YouTube is full of videos of people doing teaching to chain in the game ( always citing the rules of the old Poké Radar ), but I would like to see videos of people developing the entire chain, for example, or videos where people are making chains in small areas !

The biggest problem I'm figuring is that when people manage to decrypt the game for real and get all the formulas behind the machanics of the new Poké Radar, there will be so many crazy tutorials made ​​based on the Gen IV one that this new and correct tutorial will be lost and will not be well shared. Nintendo and Game Freak are not the ones that are going to explain the right way!

Anyway, please share your experiences! How many shinies did you managed to get this way? What did you do that made it work? What did you do that broke the chain? Any information will help me and others who read the topic!

This is my first topic, so... Sorry it's that long! I like to make myself very clear (although I think maybe I wasn't! LOL)!
Anyway, thank you for your attention and have a good time radar-hunting shinies!
 
As far as I've seen, the Pokeradar works the exact same way it did in Gen IV. And this seems true for the most part. Never go to borders, always go into identical shaking patches, chance maxes out at 40, etc.

The problem with this is that because they kept the mechanics the same, you're also better off with a big grass patch, and there's almost none in XY. DPPt had a 5x5 or so grass patch on almost every route, but the only one that I can think of in XY is the one outside of Lumiose (Route 7?)

It's possible to chain in a smaller grass patch, it's just difficult. Grass patches like the flower patch on the daycare route aren't that bad, but chaining for something like a shiny Ralts is almost impossible, which is annoying to me.

The only shiny I've gotten from chaining is a Furfrou. It broke several times, but one time I just got lucky and got the shiny patch on the second patch. I also got a shiny Skiddo in the first patch I went into, though it wasn't a shiny patch, so I'm not sure if it counts. I've really gotten most my shinies from hordes and the FS this time. Too hard to chain with all the small patches, imo.
 
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Man! You ARE lucky!

I think at least the rule of the distance of 4 steps being "obligatory" has changed. I got a chain of 25 Chatot moments ago by just entering the grasses that were shaking the most (and identical to the first of the chain), even if it wasn't 4 steps away. I hate myself because I broke it when I got distracted by the TV and used the roller...
 
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I tried chaining for a Shiny Zoroark but failed. The shaking grass thing throws me off, too many look too similar to the one Zoroark is in.
 
I keep trying in many different places, but I always fail at least a few chains in. Either I hit the wrong grass patch or I break a rule or something. Honestly, It's annoying. sometimes I go to the only space that shakes and it breaks my chain for no reason. If I could find a nice big patch somewhere it wouldn't be so bad.
 
I'll try to make a list of some things are working for me later and compare it to the old tutorials as well! Maybe we can compare our results after that!
 
I've had horrible luck with it. I can't even chain 2 Pokemon :(
Well, that's not true. I once chained 3 Altaria but it's nothing special. Besides, even with the PokeRadar, there's only a +.40% chance that you'll get a shiny. And not consecutively, that's for the rest of the chain.
 
I was quite good at PokeRadaring back in Platinum, but in X I kinda suck at it. The biggest differences I noticed are :

1. There are 5 maximum shaking patches (Platinum has 4 max) with one patch being a decoy (no pokemon)
2. The Pokeradar music is not as interesting as in Platinum. I remember back then the music kinda got me going a bit.
3. The shiny patch is confusing. I once had a shiny patch side by side above a common patch, and I really thought that the bottom patch was the shiny one. So I entered the bottom one, and NO, it was not the shiny one.
 
I was chaining moments ago and something different happened! As you may have already noticed and =Dragonite= commented about, when you use the Poké Radar, the music changes. But I was at the 25th Chatot when... a different music started playing! The chain was still working, but a faster and happier music started to play after I downed a Pokemon! I don't know what happened... but no sparkling grass shoke... Maybe the game was telling me there was a Shiny Pokemon for me to catch in one of the grasses, but the grass wasn't shining! Unfortunately the chain broke because with my attempt to get the 26th Pokemon... But this is another different thing from the 4th Gen Poke Radar!

i just discovered in other forums that the different music tells you that you have high chances to find a shiny pokemon, and if you keep reseting the radar, the shiny patch will popup really fast ;~~~ can't believe I almost got my shiny Chatotttt ;~~~~~~~~
 
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Honestly, they should have just let us use the Friend Safari with the Poke Radar. It's the most suitable grass patch in the entire game.
 
Something new happened to me when I was chaining some hours ago! A different, faster and happier music started playing after I KOed the 25th Chatot! I got really confused, mainly because I knew that the chain was still working! Unfortunately, the chain broke when I downed the 26th Chatot, with no reason. I googled about the music and discovered a guy that made several tests on it and discovered that when this different music starts playing, it means that you have high chances of encountering a shiny Pokemon, even if you are in the begining of the chain! You don't have even to keep defeating Pokemons! You can keep reseting the Radar and the shiny patch will appear soon enough. It's so sad to know that I was almost catching my Shiny Chatot!!!!! But I'll keep trying!

I agree that they should let us use the Poke Radar in the Friend Safari! Buuutt... a lot of people are catching a lot of shinies there. Maybe the rate of catching a shiny there is even bigger than catching in the normal gameplay, where people says its already bigger than in the older gens. If it's true, maybe the Poke Radar would take the speaciality of a Shiny Pokemon out.
 
I have tried the Pokeradar alot in my pokemon Y game for days. I was really good with it back in Gen 4, but now, I still don't have the hang of it yet.
But I got a shiny Eevee just a hour ago on Route 10. Its not a good place to chain at all, but I wanted a challenge so I tried. I got my fourth chain and that upbeat, hapy music started playing. It has been confirmed by the japanese guide that the fast, upbeat music does increase your chance of a shiny pokemon. So I reset the radar once, then a shiny patch appeared! Went into it and BAM! Shiny Eevee :D
But it does look like this radar has mostly the same rules as before. I think that the continuing same-patch its the most important this time. But we can't be too sure, before the english guide say so, if it does.
In Gen 4, I always followed the 4-patch away and I almost always got it to 40. And I sometimes went into diffrents shaking patches then and it still did continue.
Anyway, I got my Eevee chain to 33 yesterday. And I just went into the 4-away patches with the same shaking vibe. But I was also kinda risky in the beginning. Unfornately I was to fast and run straight into a slow patch. Was my fault so I can't complain :p

Well atleast I try to do the 4 away-patches/always same shake vibe, now. Still haven't got a chain to 40, because unluck or I step into wrong patch but atleast my highest is 36, so I think it does work.
 
I've always sucked at using Poké Radar. I never manage to do long chains - my longest ever was probably, like, 15 in Pearl. I've still managed to get a shiny with Radaring: a shiny Staravia (in Pearl, again) with two chains.
I think my problem is that when I'm looking at the whole area, trying to locate all rustling grasses, I can't see details like how fast the grass rustles and so on. My eyes just don't work that well...

One day I was so close to getting a shiny Ditto in Y, but I stepped to a wrong rustling grass.
 
A good thing in this new gen Poké Radar is the possibility of suspending the game of the 3DS by pressing the HOME button. It doesn't break the chain (I tried it some times, but only during a fight... I never tried in the overworld, and I won't try LOL). This possibility allows you to start a chain now and finish it later, or let you do a tension-break drinking some water in the late numbers of the chain!

PokeAmi, congratz on your Eeve! Can you show me this japanese guide you told about?? About the music, it appeared for me some times after the first that I told here, but in every time the music stoped when I resetted the Radar ;/ I think those are moments of real extra-lucky when the music appears and you get to see a shiny patch! But I'll keep checking it!

Yamashita, keep training and you'll get better!
 
Yamashita-aka-Doragon said:
I've always sucked at using Poké Radar. I never manage to do long chains - my longest ever was probably, like, 15 in Pearl. I've still managed to get a shiny with Radaring: a shiny Staravia (in Pearl, again) with two chains.
I think my problem is that when I'm looking at the whole area, trying to locate all rustling grasses, I can't see details like how fast the grass rustles and so on. My eyes just don't work that well...

One day I was so close to getting a shiny Ditto in Y, but I stepped to a wrong rustling grass.
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How would you get a Ditto in grass? I thought they only appeared in the Pokemon Village, which is all flowers. And last I checked you can't chain in flowers (Although maybe you can and I just had the roller skates on.

Anyway, chaining hasn't ever gone well for me. I never did it in Gen IV games, and my highest chain in X is 15. But I HAVE managed to get the up-beat music before, so if I get it again, I'll just start using repels and resetting the radar. Hopefully I'll get a shiny patch.
 
AmphiGamer said:
How would you get a Ditto in grass? I thought they only appeared in the Pokemon Village, which is all flowers. And last I checked you can't chain in flowers (Although maybe you can and I just had the roller skates on.
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Huh, what? I can chain in flowers just fine. I've tried that on many routes and it works.
 
Chaining in flowers does indeed work - I gave it a go earlier in the poke village - I just went for the furthest spot away from me and that almost always gave me my chain pokemon, I did break it once or twice but I'm not entirely sure why - I was after a shiny ditto at the time.
 
Yamashita-aka-Doragon said:
AmphiGamer said:
How would you get a Ditto in grass? I thought they only appeared in the Pokemon Village, which is all flowers. And last I checked you can't chain in flowers (Although maybe you can and I just had the roller skates on.
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Huh, what? I can chain in flowers just fine. I've tried that on many routes and it works.
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Well looks like I probably forgot to take the roller skates off. Silly me ^~^
 
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