Pokéball Mechanics

[Garrett Givre]

This Topic Was Taken From Dewgong_Rain, I found it pretty interesting, so I thought I would start a thread about it. Sorry if it's already been started.

"The Mechanics of a Poké Ball. We've never actually seen the inside of a Poké Ball except for once when Psyduck was seen at the closing of "Pokémon Fashion Flash". All that was shown was Psyduck's normally 3 dimensional body inside a sphere with the surroundings black. But then again, this was only the first season, and the writers still weren't for sure where they were going with some of this stuff either.

Since Pokémon are called to their Poké Balls to rest, a theory of mine is that after they've gone through the Poké Ball transition (Red/white beam of light) and into the ball, it simulates a natural enviroment where the Pokémon would be present in the wild."

 

[Shigshwa]

IMO, I think it simply puts it into suspended animation with the Pokemon still conscious. Also, why is it that Pokemon are allowed to escape? Could it be a law stating that Poke balls can't have a 100 catch rate? Then why would a master ball be in the games an still "legal"? Could it be that there's a legal limit for master balls set by the government?

 

[Garrett Givre]

I agree, I think it puts the Pokémon in a kind of frozen position. Although, escaping would be wierd. Maybe it's because they only get put in a suspended state when they like the trainer or are too hurt.

As for the catch rate, I bet it's regulated by the government, like in another thread how people are saying the health care is universal, maybe markets have to be universal and can only sell the certain pokéballs to certain trainers (badges etc) and at certain prices.

Not sure if I made much sense but it's just my thoughts on it.

 

[Shinx3000]

"The Mechanics of a Poké Ball. We've never actually seen the inside of a Poké Ball except for once when Psyduck was seen at the closing of "Pokémon Fashion Flash". All that was shown was Psyduck's normally 3 dimensional body inside a sphere with the surroundings black. But then again, this was only the first season, and the writers still weren't for sure where they were going with some of this stuff either.

We have seen inside a pokeball, see here from anime:

Then why would a master ball be in the games an still "legal"? Could it be that there's a legal limit for master balls set by the government?

Well originally the masterball was created to contain Mewtwo, then a very powerful pokemon, but since there are a lot more legendaries in games and some harder to catch than others, the option of having a masterball to catch one helps, so one was added to every game for this reason, and only one, to prevent pokemon being caught to easily.

I agree, I think it puts the Pokémon in a kind of frozen position. Although, escaping would be wierd. Maybe it's because they only get put in a suspended state when they like the trainer or are too hurt.

But its been shown with the likes of Psyduck and Wobuffett that pokemon can escape their balls, so they can't be frozen in a state. What I think is that they are particles of energy, like what happens to someone when they go through a transporter in Star Trek, but when released, the red beam, recompiles them into their form. When a pokemon is caught, the ball imprints a mark on the caught pokemon, if it does not escape, so that other balls can't be used to recaputre it, unless the pokemon chooses to let this happen. This stops other trainers catching someone elses pokemon. When a pokemon is released, a blue light appears, showing that the mark that keeps the ball with the pokemon, is broken. The mark can also be broken with the pokemon and its pokeball, if the ball gets broken, then another pokeball can be used to house the pokemon.

 

[Shigshwa]

I agree, I think it puts the Pokémon in a kind of frozen position. Although, escaping would be wierd. Maybe it's because they only get put in a suspended state when they like the trainer or are too hurt.

As for the catch rate, I bet it's regulated by the government, like in another thread how people are saying the health care is universal, maybe markets have to be universal and can only sell the certain pokéballs to certain trainers (badges etc) and at certain prices.

Not sure if I made much sense but it's just my thoughts on it.

Simply, the Poke ball is a device that converts the Pokemon into electrons or splits it into particles and stores it into itself as data. Would the Pokemon still retain their conscience though?

 

[Garrett Givre]

and how would they break out of it if they are just elections or particles or whatever?

and what are the mirrors inside of it for, to collect the data I presume?

 

[Shigshwa]

and how would they break out of it if they are just elections or particles or whatever?

and what are the mirrors inside of it for, to collect the data I presume?

Well, do they reflect or refract? If they reflect, then it could be used to direct the beam into one spot. If they refract, then, well, where does it refract to???

 

[Garrett Givre]

I'm pretty sure they reflect...

They put all the red energy into one ball in the center so it stores...

That's what I always thought anyways

 

[Shinx3000]

Simply, the Poke ball is a device that converts the Pokemon into electrons or splits it into particles and stores it into itself as data. Would the Pokemon still retain their conscience though?

If it worked like the transporter in Star Trek, it could work. I remember one episode of TNG (The next Generation) where Lt. Barkley went into the Enterprise transporter and found these "things" inside the transporter beam. Eventually he grabbed one and when they materialized, he had the body of someone who was thought to been lost, and I think in another TNG episode, Scotty was found in a transporter and he was alive after about 70 years of being lost or something, so I guess the same can be applied for pokemon in pokeballs and the mirrors in the ball keep the pokemons energy confined in middle.

 

[Garrett Givre]

Could you explain a little bit more in depth?

I'm not really understanding, I'm not a bit Star Trek kid, so I don't know how the transporter works.

 

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

And of course the in-game answer to the question of why legendaries are never as badass when you capture them, that the pokeballs hamper their power (that is, if you believe Cyrus's research, although it seems to be accurate as a means of explaination).

 

[Shigshwa]

And of course the in-game answer to the question of why legendaries are never as badass when you capture them, that the pokeballs hamper their power (that is, if you believe Cyrus's research, although it seems to be accurate as a means of explaination).

This doesn't apply in the anime though, because no one has ever caught a badass legendary before to prove that Poke balls limit their power.

 

[BulbaRaith]

and how would they break out of it if they are just elections or particles or whatever?

and what are the mirrors inside of it for, to collect the data I presume?

[procrastinating scientist]
Well electrons and particles behave in a way that isn't easily understood by just thinking about the macroscopic (classical) world we live and think in.

In the real classical world there is no possibility for one solid object to pass through another solid object. Electrons and quantum particles are not restricted by this. The pokeball could be acting as a potential well which the pokemons quantum structure (wavefunction) gets trapped in, in the solution of the Schrödinger equation there is a probability of the the pokemons wavefunction tunnelling out of the pokeball and "escaping". The different classes of pokeball may therefore be ways of establishing different depths of potential wells with the Master balls potential well being near infinite so that nothing can escape. Things like balls specifically for catching water and bug pokemon may suggest there is something different about the wavefunction of these pokemon when stored and these balls are designed in such a way as to hold those wavefunctions best.
[/procrastinating scientist]

 

[Mijzelffan]

pokeball open, pokémon become red, pokémon go inside, pokeball closes. It's as easy as that. It's a video game, it doesn't have to make sense. Plus a pokéball is a hammerspace from the inside.

 

[Aladar]

IMO the mirrors work as magnets and keep the condensed enery in the middle of the poke ball...

 

[Garrett Givre]

Another question is how does the pokéball know which pokémon to capture or bring back?

Maybe when you throw it at a wild pokémon you have to hit the circle front on it. That could be why missing would be easier. (Only happened in the first games though correct?)

Also this might contribute to how pokémon break out of it?

 

[Vsyoravno]

Oh god I wrote a really long essay about this once.

Basically I think pokemon have unique genetic properties that cause their molecules to react with something in the device (it must not be anything too complex if pokeballs can be made from apricorns), allowing them to be stored as energy. Their individual DNA is bound to the pokeball, which also explains why you can't give something a new pokeball...unless you break the old one and catch it again, I guess.

And they should be in suspended animation; anything else sounds illogical to me. If they are fully conscious and live in a simulated environment, does time pass in there? If you find a pokeball that was lost for centuries, would you send out something dead? If time doesn't pass, would you find something that's gone mad from loneliness and boredom? The suspended animation theory is even more humane...who would want to be all alone in there? It's not a PMD friend area, or they would have called it one.

About pokemon escaping, notice that most of them were psychic types. Theoretically they can separate the mind from the body even in that state, and weaken the pokeball's force. Or maybe the pokeball is just defective from the beginning.

 

[Garrett Givre]

good explanation...I had forgotten that pokéball's could be made from apricorns.

I wonder how that is...lol wouldn't they be more primitive then other pokéball's? Although they aren't so are all of them made from apricorns?

 

[Dewgong Reign]

These balls are used to catch and contain wild Pokémon. Most Pokémon must be weakened in some way before they can be caught, but once they're inside a Poké Ball, they enjoy their new home, since Poké Balls contain an environment specially designed for Pokémon comfort. Master Balls are the strongest type

 

[Aladar]

^ That's true...at least some of it... some Pokemon like Pikachu seem to be claustrophobic.