Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection releasing May 5 in No

[BulbaBot]

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Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection, the complete DVD box set for the first English dubbed Pokémon season, Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands, will be available May 5, 2015.

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[DVDs]

Re: Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection releasing May 5 i

I think this article needs to be revised.

There is no confirmation all 36 episodes will be featured on the DVDs. This fact is also backed up by the claim on the back on the boxset claiming to have "Over 12 hours on 3 DVD!"

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91kWOOEBFFL._SL1500_.jpg

After soding some hard calculations, if we were to assume each episode ran for an average of 22 minutes, a total of 36 episodes would round up to 13 hours and 12 minutes, further supporting the fact that "The Mandarin Island Miss Match" and "Stage Fight!" may not be included in this release.

The point is, this is neither confirmed or debunked, so until one of the two occurs, the article shouldn't claim all 36 episodes will be included.

 

[HoennMaster]

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Those episodes have never been skipped in past DVD releases, and won't be here.

 

[DVDs]

Re: Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection releasing May 5 i

Those episodes have never been skipped in past DVD releases, and won't be here.

"Holiday Hi-Jynx" was never skipped in the Pioneer and the 2006-2008 Viz Media release, but it was skipped in the recent 2014 Viz Media release, a few months after that episode was removed from the pokemon.com Episode Guide. "The Mandarin Island Miss Match" and "Stage Fight!" were also removed from the Episode Guide, so I'm betting they will be skipped in the 2015 Viz Media release.

 

[Piplup]

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It's like 100% sure they won't include these eps. Officially these 3 episodes just don't exist anymore and supposedly never existed at all. They pretty much turned into what the Porygon ep is for Japan. It aired before but no official source is ever gonna air or dare mention it again, just forever pretending it never existed.

 

[SnorlaxMonster]

Re: Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection releasing May 5 i

I think this article needs to be revised.

There is no confirmation all 36 episodes will be featured on the DVDs. This fact is also backed up by the claim on the back on the boxset claiming to have "Over 12 hours on 3 DVD!"

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91kWOOEBFFL._SL1500_.jpg

After soding some hard calculations, if we were to assume each episode ran for an average of 22 minutes, a total of 36 episodes would round up to 13 hours and 12 minutes, further supporting the fact that "The Mandarin Island Miss Match" and "Stage Fight!" may not be included in this release.

The point is, this is neither confirmed or debunked, so until one of the two occurs, the article shouldn't claim all 36 episodes will be included.

Ach, I meant to remove that "36" from the article, but looks like I missed it. Thanks.

 

[Dogasu]

Re: Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection releasing May 5 i

The box set will include episodes of the second season of the Pokémon anime

Second and third seasons, actually.

 

[SammyW27]

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Define "complete", Viz... :-|

 

[Piplup]

Re: Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection releasing May 5 i

The box set will include episodes of the second season of the Pokémon anime

Second and third seasons, actually.

QFT. Bless you for being pretty much the one and only person online except of me to acknowledge the official seasons...... (so sad that bulbapedia is so well known yet is constantly feeding wrong info to its readers)

 

[SnorlaxMonster]

Re: Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection releasing May 5 i

The box set will include episodes of the second season of the Pokémon anime

Second and third seasons, actually.

Depends how you count. By US DVD seasons, this is season 2; by airing seasons, this is season 2 & 3. Since this is a US DVD, you would assume that refers to US DVD seasons.

 

[Piplup]

Re: Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection releasing May 5 i

The box set will include episodes of the second season of the Pokémon anime

Second and third seasons, actually.

Depends how you count. By US DVD seasons, this is season 2; by airing seasons, this is season 2 & 3. Since this is a US DVD, you would assume that refers to US DVD seasons.

Eh... no. There's no "US seasons VS airing seasons" thing. That's your own fan-made "seasons".
Season =/= opening song
Season =/= story arc
Season = a bunch of eps ordered for airing at a time, and for Seasons 1-8 of Pokémon's English version and pretty much all other languages that dub this version, that means 52 eps exactly each.
Yes, the US DVD tend to release the episodes based on the opening themes like the fans love to view it, but that doesn't change the fact that, officially, the "Indigo League" box set includes episodes from both Season 1 and Season 2, and this "Orange Island" box set will include episodes from both Season 2 and Season 3.
Everything would be easier if fans realized the differences between seasons, story arcs, and opening themes and that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other even if they sometimes (or even often, lately) match. but apparently people can't do that.

 

[SnorlaxMonster]

Re: Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection releasing May 5 i

The box set will include episodes of the second season of the Pokémon anime

Second and third seasons, actually.

Depends how you count. By US DVD seasons, this is season 2; by airing seasons, this is season 2 & 3. Since this is a US DVD, you would assume that refers to US DVD seasons.

Eh... no. There's no "US seasons VS airing seasons" thing. That's your own fan-made "seasons".
Season =/= opening song
Season =/= story arc
Season = a bunch of eps ordered for airing at a time, and for Seasons 1-8 of Pokémon's English version and pretty much all other languages that dub this version, that means 52 eps exactly each.
Yes, the US DVD tend to release the episodes based on the opening themes like the fans love to view it, but that doesn't change the fact that, officially, the "Indigo League" box set includes episodes from both Season 1 and Season 2, and this "Orange Island" box set will include episodes from both Season 2 and Season 3.
Everything would be easier if fans realized the differences between seasons, story arcs, and opening themes and that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other even if they sometimes (or even often, lately) match. but apparently people can't do that.

To be clear, the US DVDs do call them seasons. They are an official thing, they are not fan-made. There are two standards, and in the context of Region 1 DVDs, the US DVD seasons are the correct standard to use. This form of season grouping also correlates with opening themes, although it's not defined by them.

The (official) Region 1 DVD season "Indigo League" does include episodes from both airing season 1 and airing season 2, but it doesn't make either incorrect. Season 2 actually has slightly different names for the different standards.

 

[Piplup]

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To be clear, the US DVDs do call them seasons. They are an official thing, they are not fan-made. There are two standards, and in the context of Region 1 DVDs, the US DVD seasons are the correct standard to use. This form of season grouping also correlates with opening themes, although it's not defined by them.

Well they're calling this set, for example, an Orange Islands box set, not "Season 2", right?...
Also even if I'm somehow wrong here and they did label it Season 2 that wouldn't change the fact that "Pokémon Water War" is episode 301 officially. And that if any channel (including the US) announce they'll air "Season 2" they'll stop at "Charizard Chills".
There's just such huge confusion over the "seasons" thing even with the officials working on this show. Remember when CN said they'll air "Season 3" so they'd be showing "Johto episodes" in time for HGSS? they ended up only airing the final Orange Islands eps since obviously that's what marked as "Season 3" for them, so someone there messed up assuming Season 3 = Johto, which obviously wasn't the case... that's one of the reasons I'm always trying to explain how the seasons truly works, but it seems like I'm fighting for nothing and people will keep going by openings rather than the actual seasons... (I do think the US DVD releases help the confusion and I wish they just released by seasons like Australia)

 

[Dogasu]

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To be clear, the US DVDs do call them seasons.

The US DVDs are wrong.


They're also wrong about these sets being "Complete Collections" (the 2008 DVDs were more complete) and two of the four screenshots on the back of the first set are from episodes that don't show up until the second set. The fact checking on these things is hardly top notch.

 

[DVDs]

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Personally, I like how the DVDs organize the seasons more than how they "should" be.

If they were organized the other way, I would have to buy two seasons to find out how the Indigo League ends, and so on. The way they are released right now is more convenient for buyers who only want certain seasons.

 

[Dogasu]

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Releasing the show by sagas rather than by seasons is fine. Just don't mis-label them as "Season 1" and "Season 2."

 

[Yoshi1001]

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The term "season" is somewhat meaningless on a series with 45+ episodes per year anyway.

 

[Piplup]

Re: Pokémon: Adventures in the Orange Islands - Complete Collection releasing May 5 i

Releasing the show by sagas rather than by seasons is fine. Just don't mis-label them as "Season 1" and "Season 2."

Honestly it's not even "by saga" cause take Johto for example... they won't release the entire Johto arc on a boxset, they'll go by opening theme instead, which would break Johto into 3 randomly composed parts. That's one of the reasons I prefer sticking to the official seasons since they at least make SOME sense going by the "52 eps a year" logic.
But yeah, I wouldn't mind it as much if people just accepted that "season" and "saga"/"arc"/opening/whatever aren't the same thing.

 

[DVDs]

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But yeah, I wouldn't mind it as much if people just accepted that "season" and "saga"/"arc"/opening/whatever aren't the same thing.

I just don't see how organizing them by 52 episodes a year is more efficient than by saga/arc/opening. The latter is much more accurate to how the episodes should be grouped. For example, if we go by "52 episodes a year" logic, the majority of the Orange Islands seasons wouldn't even take place in the Orange Islands.

 

[Piplup]

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I just don't see how orgznizing them by 52 episodes a year is more efficient than by saga/arc/opening.

Channels around the world would rather buy packages of a fixed amount of episodes that is enough for a fixed period of time, in this case a full year run. Pokémon is not the only show handling seasons based on fixed numbers: that's why you'll often find other shows' seasons (or entire show's run) being 13, 26, 39 or 52 episodes. Because on a weekly schedule that's enough for a one quarter, half a year, three quarters and a full year run respectively.
It's also way more practical to send a 52 eps package instead of waiting until, say, the Johto arc is over and send it as a 150+ eps package. Oh yeah, now you'll say Johto had 3 openings but then I can ask you too: does dividing Johto into 3 randomly selected "parts" really making any sense? no, yet you have no issues accepting it...

The latter is much more accurate to how the episodes should be grouped.

Which is why I'd never argue with you if you referred to the entire Orange Islands arc as the Orange Islands arc/saga. Not Season. That's my point: you're using the wrong term. You're totally right Orange Islands is its own story arc, but it never was and never will be a "season".

For example, if we go by "52 episodes a year" logic, the majority of the Orange Islands seasons wouldn't even take place in the Orange Islands.

Because there is no such thing as an Orange Islands season, again... Orange Islands is a story arc that is part of Seasons 2 and 3. Which is why when any channel around the world announce they'd air "Season 2" they'd air from Princess VS Princess to Charizard Chills, and not from the first Orange ep to the last Orange ep.