pokemon generation 6 in the anime

[pokemonmaster101]

Okay i want to make this thread. So the Genesect thread won't get so out of control with this topic. Most of us are confident that the 16th movie will star a gen 6 poke.

What do you think that poke should be or should there be more then one.

What role should it play.

I'd also like to hear suggestions on the name of the games and what type of legend you'd like to see

I'm thinking onyx/jade if there going back to gems. Cyan/amber if there staying with colors

 

[Jukain]

The main point brought up by many is the fact that at least since movie 12, they have had two promos for every movie. Presumably, Genesect is one of them, so there has to be another. Some others point out that the teaser at the end of movies has, for the most part, been a red herring, and the actual movie has little to do with what is shown in it. Not to mention that the evidence clearly suggests Genesect is not what is important here, since it's going to be officially revealed soon. From the whole thing with Victini, we know they wouldn't pull two distributions unless the one for the movie is different, which means there is something special about it that doesn't match up to what we know about it. What that happens to be is anyone's guess, but some have taken it to mean that Genesect is only here for the sake of it, and it doesn't really hold any importance whatsoever, not even for a distribution. That would leave this movie open for more than one new poke if that is what they're going to do. I would be more inclined to believe that Genesect holds greater importance, but I realized that the fateful encounter flag is already needed for the in game event in B/W1 and 2. How would they differentiate the one needed for the next game? That would seem to support the latter; that there is more than one new poke, and Genesect is here just because they had nothing else to do with it. There is possibly another way that they could differentiate it, though, such as giving it moves that it wouldn't otherwise have. They've done this with various other movie promos.

You may also want to address the matter that last time, we were given two promos that unlocked the new pokes seen in a movie in the next game. While this was a neat idea, I don't really see it being used again. Maybe they'll go back to the early cameo just being that; an early cameo. Of course, the mentality is there to suggest that this will be the third of the line of Lucario-esque critters that get massively inflated even though they're just ordinary pokemon. If you can remember farther back than that, though, it could also just be a random legend. (Yes I do realize that the end of the third gen also promoted a random legend along with having already given us Lucario, but the final movie of the fourth gen broke that pattern) Really, we have so many possibilities, including them foisting the new starters early, which they also did for the 5th gen. I don't think they'll do that since they like to impress us with powerful pokemon first. Worst case scenario, they could also go back to leading off with a small and cutesy pokemon, which isn't a practice they really abandoned per se, since Zorua still counts as a small and cute pokemon. (and by extension, they could also do both a powerful poke and a cute poke, like with Zorua/Zoroark)

 

[Dr. Buni]

I don't think they will reveal a Generation VI in Movie 16, mainly because it is too early for a new generation, but... allow me to play along. First, I am not sure that Genesect will not be the main Pokémon of Movie 16. Yeah, the pattern points out that Genesect will not have a big importance in the next movie, but have in mind that a lot of patterns were broken in Generation V. Also, a lot of patterns points out that Generation V is far from being over, but even so people insists in this idea. Plus, it isn't a "random" legendary, it is heavily linked to the evil team of Generation V and it is clearly the Mewtwo/Deoxys of the actual generation. I really don't think it will be poorly treated in the movie.

Anyway, lets pretend that they will reveal a new Pokémon in the next movie: What if this Pokémon is the ancient/original form of Genesect and this is the reason for it not being exactly the main star of the movie? I don't remember they revealing a new legendary in a movie, before the release of the games, but maybe the ancient form isn't a legendary? Maybe it can be seen as the Lucario/Zoroark of Generation VI? Or maybe it is a legendary. After all, there isn't a rule prohibiting the reveal of it before the release of the games. Regarding the type of the new Pokémon, if my unlikely theory is wrong, I believe it will be a Ghost or Psychic Pokémon, since Lucario and Zoroark were Fighting and Dark, respectively and the Ghost and Psychic types are related to the aforementioned.

 

[pokemonmaster101]

I don't think they will reveal a Generation VI in Movie 16, mainly because it is too early for a new generation, but... allow me to play along. First, I am not sure that Genesect will not be the main Pokémon of Movie 16. Yeah, the pattern points out that Genesect will not have a big importance in the next movie, but have in mind that a lot of patterns were broken in Generation V. Also, a lot of patterns points out that Generation V is far from being over, but even so people insists in this idea. Plus, it isn't a "random" legendary, it is heavily linked to the evil team of Generation V and it is clearly the Mewtwo/Deoxys of the actual generation. I really don't think it will be poorly treated in the movie.

Anyway, lets pretend that they will reveal a new Pokémon in the next movie: What if this Pokémon is the ancient/original form of Genesect and this is the reason for it not being exactly the main star of the movie? I don't remember they revealing a new legendary in a movie, before the release of the games, but maybe the ancient form isn't a legendary? Maybe it can be seen as the Lucario/Zoroark of Generation VI? Or maybe it is a legendary. After all, there isn't a rule prohibiting the reveal of it before the release of the games. Regarding the type of the new Pokémon, if my unlikely theory is wrong, I believe it will be a Ghost or Psychic Pokémon, since Lucario and Zoroark were Fighting and Dark, respectively and the Ghost and Psychic types are related to the aforementioned.

I'm not trying to be rude here, but why do people like you insist on ignoring the facts. a generation is over after the league. The only exceptions was battle frontier and the Orange islands. Genesect is the last legend to be revealed. Genesect was revived from a Fossil, so unless the make a second sequel. There is no room in this gen for ancient genesect. It would have to be a gen 6 pokemon.

 

[Dr. Buni]

There is no such thing as facts here, it is all speculation. The generations weren't always over after the league, so it is not a pattern or rule. There were "exceptions" once and it is possible to happen again. Also, since you like to mention patterns, what about the two last generations lasting four instead of three years? What about both having remakes? Will they break these two patterns with Generation VI?

And what about a improved third version instead of sequels? What about at least one pre-evolution or evolution of old Pokémon in the new generations? What happened with these last two patterns? Do you have the answer to all these questions? I guess not. I will repeat: There is not facts here, it is all speculation. Anything can happen in 2013: Remakes of RSE, Generation VI, NOTHING or even something else we failed to predict (like we failed with the Pokémon Grey prediction).

Also, can you please read my post again? I don't think you read all of it. I said that the ancient form, if released, will be a Generation VI Pokémon.

And yes, you were rude.

 

[Aestivate]

Speaking of rudeness, tone it down. Better yet, get rid of the rudeness altogether. And this goes to everyone.

 

[pokemonmaster101]

There is no such thing as facts here, it is all speculation. The generations weren't always over after the league, so it is not a pattern or rule. There were "exceptions" once and it is possible to happen again. Also, since you like to mention patterns, what about the two last generations lasting four instead of three years? What about both having remakes? Will they break these two patterns with Generation VI?

And what about a improved third version instead of sequels? What about at least one pre-evolution or evolution of old Pokémon in the new generations? What happened with these last two patterns? Do you have the answer to all these questions? I guess not. I will repeat: There is not facts here, it is all speculation. Anything can happen in 2013: Remakes of RSE, Generation VI, NOTHING or even something else we failed to predict (like we failed with the Pokémon Grey prediction).

Also, can you please read my post again? I don't think you read all of it. I said that the ancient form, if released, will be a Generation VI Pokémon.

And yes, you were rude.

even if there was an exception and there will be again we will still get gen 6 in 2013 by then this gen will have lasted 4 years

 

[Musashi]

even if there was an exception and there will be again we will still get gen 6 in 2013 by then this gen will have lasted 4 years

BW came out in 2010. It would be 3 years.

 

[Dr. Buni]

even if there was an exception and there will be again we will still get gen 6 in 2013 by then this gen will have lasted 4 years

No, if will get Generation VI in 2013, Generation V will have lasted only 3 years.

I see no problem with it, since it happened in the first two generations and Generation V clearly mirrored a lot of aspects of these gens.
I believe the next gen will be to Unova, what Johto was to Kanto.

But... I just can't see it happening, since there were some hints about the remakes and I believe they will not scrap the "pattern" of 4 movies in each generation.

 

[pokemonmaster101]

even if there was an exception and there will be again we will still get gen 6 in 2013 by then this gen will have lasted 4 years

No, if will get Generation VI in 2013, Generation V will have lasted only 3 years.

I see no problem with it, since it happened in the first two generations and Generation V clearly mirrored a lot of aspects of these gens.
I believe the next gen will be to Unova, what Johto was to Kanto.

But... I just can't see it happening, since there were some hints about the remakes and I believe they will not scrap the "pattern" of 4 movies in each generation.

Okay so i was wrong i mistakenly counted 2010 as a full year. There is no reason for a r/s remake as r/s/e is still connectable through d/p. I'm not saying i don't want them because i do. Have you also taken into consideration that this gen has be a h*** of alot faster then both ag and dp. And like you said before with gen 5 we have had a lot of broken traditions. So whose to say we wont get both the remakes (if at all) and gen 6 next year.

Speaking of rudeness, tone it down. Better yet, get rid of the rudeness altogether. And this goes to everyone.

in all reality i was being rude. i was asking a simple question. when i said people like you it meant the people who insist on thinking that this gen isnt basically over which it is

 

[L-05308]

Remember Munchlax appearing in the second movie of gen 3 when their were 4 movies?

That said, I am expecting Jirachi and some gen 3 pokemon. I am hopeful for RS remakes. The 13th movie showcassed Johto legends and gen V pokemon, but this one has Genesect to do for now.

 

[Spindae2]

I could imagine a gen 6 poke appear!
looking from now the Meloetta plot will last for st least 3-5 episodes (till end of august)
than the WTJC around 6 eps (mid october)
a 5-10 ep gep before the League (till year end)
League around 10 eps ( march)
post league plot till semptember
NEW GEN IN SEMPTEMBER ! so introduce it like Zorua in the celebi movie!
They can introduce it or they won't! So I wouldn't be surprised either way!

 

[Dr. Buni]

Okay so i was wrong i mistakenly counted 2010 as a full year. There is no reason for a r/s remake as r/s/e is still connectable through d/p. I'm not saying i don't want them because i do. Have you also taken into consideration that this gen has be a h*** of alot faster then both ag and dp. And like you said before with gen 5 we have had a lot of broken traditions. So whose to say we wont get both the remakes (if at all) and gen 6 next year.

Come on, do you really think they make remakes for this reason? They make to earn more money. Remakes = easy money, be them necessary or not. Yes, Generation V was a lot faster than the previous two... in the anime. I think you are taking the anime much in consideration here, not saying that you totally wrong, but... They can easily make a "filler" season a la Battle Frontier/Orange League again. Also, I can't see Dent and Iris being scrapped so fast, unless they plan to take both to Generation VI anime series, a la Takeshi and Kasumi (I wouldn't doubt it).

tl;dr: What I am saying is that there is "evidences" to support both remakes or generation VI release in 2013, so we can't consider anything as fact yet.
Patterns were broken a lot of times in this franchise, not only in Generation V.

Sorry if I was rude before, by the way.

 

[Jukain]

You're neglecting the matter of how soon the League is going to be. Compensating for a normal 7 ep window in which the League occurs, the Unova saga proper would be over within December approximately. For them to go to remake land, as it were, they would have to release said remakes around that time. I will grant you, we only got a few months' notice of BW2, but I will only say that such a proposal is insane. To say Gamefreak isn't already working on a new gen regardless would be silly, and granted, they have worked on two games at once a number of times, but I don't think they would run themselves ragged in such a way. Two games within 6 months more or less? Unless Pokemon suddenly turned into one of those franchises that release themselves in packets, I don't find this to be possible. You were probably thinking of one game in like March and another in September. No. For the next saga to be remake land, they would have to release it very soon. Frankly, I am not going to believe this since I don't believe in treating a game company as if they're a machine.

 

[Dr. Buni]

You're neglecting the matter of how soon the League is going to be. Compensating for a normal 7 ep window in which the League occurs, the Unova saga proper would be over within December approximately. For them to go to remake land, as it were, they would have to release said remakes around that time.

Unless they plan to make a real filler arc a la Orange Islands, what I think is very unlikely.
But I admit, you have a point here.

You were probably thinking of one game in like March and another in September.

No, not really. I was thinking that they would release the remakes in March 2013 and the first Generation VI game only in March 2014. I can't see they releasing two/four new games in a matter of months, like I can't see they releasing Generation VI in 2013, even though I agree it is a not-so-unlikely possibility. After all, like I said in my previous posts, Generation V mimicked Generation I/II a lot, I can see Generation VI mimicking them too, even in "3 years of life" aspect.

 

[pokemonmaster101]

You're neglecting the matter of how soon the League is going to be. Compensating for a normal 7 ep window in which the League occurs, the Unova saga proper would be over within December approximately. For them to go to remake land, as it were, they would have to release said remakes around that time.

Unless they plan to make a real filler arc a la Orange Islands, what I think is very unlikely.
But I admit, you have a point here.

You were probably thinking of one game in like March and another in September.

No, not really. I was thinking that they would release the remakes in March 2013 and the first Generation VI game only in March 2014. I can't see they releasing two/four new games in a matter of months, like I can't see they releasing Generation VI in 2013, even though I agree it is a not-so-unlikely possibility. After all, like I said in my previous posts, Generation V mimicked Generation I/II a lot, I can see Generation VI mimicking them too, even in "3 years of life" aspect.

First let me say that "You were probably thinking of one game in like March and another in September" was directed to me. Okay now. There will be a fill arc. Here's why the main series will most likely end this year. there not going to leave us hanging for over haft a year. i see that your starting to catch on. btw that what i mean Samurott.