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So I went and farmed 6 lucky eggs and attached them to the Pokemon that wasn't in battle (just got six for the heck of it). Mewtwo at the top battling and is level 100, three perfect Bulbasaur at level 1 and each holding a lucky egg. None of which ever enter combat.

So I get to level 16 at the same time for all of them right. Well I let two of three of them evolve into Ivysaur. Then I go out and battle another trainer. Bulbasaur makes it to level 23 however both Ivysaur make it to level 22! At first I thought that it was because maybe Ivysaur and Venusaur (don't have one yet) when evolved go to a different experience chart amount. So I check the experience totals of all three.

Bulbasaur = 13,074
Ivysaurs both say = 11,324

The lucky eggs stopped working for the two Ivysaur as soon as I let them evolve into Ivysaur!

Um NINTENDO WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

Anyone else get this problem?

Remember none of these three ever entered combat and all three have a lucky egg on them.
 
Found this on Bulbapedia:

"Various other factors may boost the amount of experience a Pokémon receives. These factors include:

  • If the Pokémon is at or past the level where it would be able to evolve and has not (Gen VI)"
So your Bulbasaur probably receives more Exp. because it hasn't evolved in an Ivysaur.
 
Yeah it's as Soki quoted above. I started noticing that my Treecko was gaining more EXP when I delayed its evolution (wanted dat tasty Giga Drain). It's not related to the Lucky Egg, which still works (thankfully).
 
Soki said:
Found this on Bulbapedia:

"Various other factors may boost the amount of experience a Pokémon receives. These factors include:

  • If the Pokémon is at or past the level where it would be able to evolve and has not (Gen VI)"
So your Bulbasaur probably receives more Exp. because it hasn't evolved in an Ivysaur.
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I wonder why they did that - maybe learning moves at lower levels (including some moves exclusive to the pre-evolution) wasn't enough motivation to make players really consider whether a Pokemon should evolve or not? So they also give it an EXP boost to offset its lower stats compared to its evolutions? Interesting.
 
Stratelier said:
Soki said:
Found this on Bulbapedia:

"Various other factors may boost the amount of experience a Pokémon receives. These factors include:

  • If the Pokémon is at or past the level where it would be able to evolve and has not (Gen VI)"
So your Bulbasaur probably receives more Exp. because it hasn't evolved in an Ivysaur.
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I wonder why they did that - maybe learning moves at lower levels (including some moves exclusive to the pre-evolution) wasn't enough motivation to make players really consider whether a Pokemon should evolve or not? So they also give it an EXP boost to offset its lower stats compared to its evolutions? Interesting.
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Also I just realized something. Before Generation VI Pokemon received all of their stats and EV points after leveling up. Now it's instant after battle/ during battle (in case you level up during battle and continue battling). So I wonder if you delay evolution do you miss out on stat points? Or do they make up for it if you were say to level a Bulbasaur evolve at level 99 to Ivysaur then at 100 to Venusaur?
 
Vegito said:
Also I just realized something. Before Generation VI Pokemon received all of their stats and EV points after leveling up. Now it's instant after battle/ during battle (in case you level up during battle and continue battling). So I wonder if you delay evolution do you miss out on stat points? Or do they make up for it if you were say to level a Bulbasaur evolve at level 99 to Ivysaur then at 100 to Venusaur?
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In old generations, EV gains were not incorporated into a Pokemon's stats unless/until you did something that affected the stat (vitamin, level up, box trick). But in current generations they are, meaning it makes no difference what level they are. And in Gen VI specifically, there is always Super Training if you want to adjust EVs more or less manually.
 
So if you don't evolve it they level up faster, interesting to know. Learn something new every day.
 
Muur said:
So if you don't evolve it they level up faster, interesting to know. Learn something new every day.
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yeah but i suspect they lose stats if we don't let them evolve at the right time when they are supposed to.
 
Yup, I noticed it quite a long time ago....

that unevolved pokemon gets more exp points than evolved pokemon.

it's why some people level up pokemon without them evolving (or holding everstone)

only time someone evolves them while leveling up is when there are moves that can only be learned once they evolve and you want to get it as soon as possible

however, even at level 99, and evolve at 100, you can just go to move relearner to learn the moves the evolved ones would have learned while leveling.

even more important for unevolve is some pokemon line have moves they can only learn IF you don't evolve...
 
Does this apply to unevolved Pokemon in the Day Care? Cause if so, training Larvesta may not be so bad anymore.
 
Vegito said:
Muur said:
So if you don't evolve it they level up faster, interesting to know. Learn something new every day.
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yeah but i suspect they lose stats if we don't let them evolve at the right time when they are supposed to.
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Not really. IVs stay the same and EVs grow identically, and two Venusaur at the same level, with identical IVs and EVs, will have identical stats no matter if one evolved at level 32 and the other at level 99.


But now I understand why when I was using the Blissey secret bases to level up Pokémon, some of them got extra experience sometimes. (BTW these bases are amazing, I've got a single Pokémon to obtain almost 240.000 exp. points at once)
 
Vegito said:
what do you mean it doesn't matter anymore?
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In Gen 5 a Pokemon who hit Lv.100 stopped receiving EVs meaning you couldn't grind them against wild Pokemon (even with the box trick), but that was Gen 5.
 
Stratelier said:
Vegito said:
what do you mean it doesn't matter anymore?
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In Gen 5 a Pokemon who hit Lv.100 stopped receiving EVs meaning you couldn't grind them against wild Pokemon (even with the box trick), but that was Gen 5.
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Well that was dumb.

But I think I can understand though I have never read up on it. Probably to prevent hackers to get super Pokemon through legit means (meaning hack the Pokemon to level 100 and then do the EV training). Most hacked Pokemon are level 100.
 
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