Pokemon you wish Ash never captured?

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Some of Ash's Pokemon are more memorable than others, are there any Pokemon you wish he never captured?

I'd probably say Primeape, not because I didn't like it, but because he has it for a grand total of 1 episode before he releases it. There was NO point for Primeape at all and it makes you wonder why the writers had him even capture it. At least Butterfree/Pidgeot/Lapras served a purpose on the show before they left, but Primeape is the most useless capture Ash ever made.

I also wish he never captured Cyndaquil, Totodile or Noctowl. I would have rathered Misty get Totodile (in the ep she battles him for it), and Cyndaquil could have went to Brock to replace Vulpix. Noctowl I just didn't care for either way.

Giving Ash all the starters in Johto again turned out to be a big mistake, and I think Misty would have been better off with Totodile and there would have been a lot less complaining about how Ash handled this team badly. I also think Misty and Totodile would have gotten along great.

Any thoughts?
 
Turtwig and Krabby. Totodile as well because he was predictable.
He always did the same things.

Ash: Totodile, I choose you!
Me: He's gonna dance, use water gun and then get KO'D. Oh look, I was right. What else is new?
 
I say Primeape. I liked Totodile, actually. I mean, if we're going with lack of creativity, Charizard's seismic toss to win a battle he hasn't been real keen on got tired too. And Swellow's Aerial Ace. And the king of all "just in case you forgot" moves, Pikachu's thunderbolt.
 
For me I'd have to say the 30 Taurses why not one I mean come on 30 is a bit much and we don't know if he uses the same Taurus or no
Primeape I would have to agree with you there :/
Beedrill in the Bugcatching contest wow he gives it away like not even 20 mins after getting it why not catch something useful like a Scyther
Heracross I found kind of pointless he never used it in a Gym Battle and only thing it did was help in the Silver Conference
 
Glalie, but not Snorunt. That thing shouldn't have evolved.
 
Scott85 said:
I'd probably say Primeape, not because I didn't like it, but because he has it for a grand total of 1 episode before he releases it. There was NO point for Primeape at all and it makes you wonder why the writers had him even capture it. At least Butterfree/Pidgeot/Lapras served a purpose on the show before they left, but Primeape is the most useless capture Ash ever made.
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To be honest, Primape's tenure on the cast made sense considering that at the time, the people working on the show thought that the anime would end by episode 52, like most anime instead of going on forever.

I also wish he never captured Cyndaquil, Totodile or Noctowl. I would have rathered Misty get Totodile (in the ep she battles him for it), and Cyndaquil could have went to Brock to replace Vulpix. Noctowl I just didn't care for either way.

Giving Ash all the starters in Johto again turned out to be a big mistake, and I think Misty would have been better off with Totodile and there would have been a lot less complaining about how Ash handled this team badly. I also think Misty and Totodile would have gotten along great.

Any thoughts?
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I have to admit, I have wondered if Misty and Totodile would have worked as a team. Although I am not to sure about your idea of Brock and Cyndaquil :\

Everyone else Ash has captured seem fine though.
 
I kinda liked the idea of Misty and Totodile because not only will Ash probably never use it again, but Misty is the only main character (aside from Tracey) who has never had a starter Pokemon.

Honestly, all Totodile ever did was get about two matches in the Whirl Cup and KO Harrison's Sneasel, other than that it was pretty pointless.
 
Gligar: Though I don't know if we're going to see any use for it in the future, I just dislike the pokemon in general

Gotta agree with Primape and Totodile (even though Totdile was freakin' cute).

Torkoal: Just...no. Did it ever actually DO anything? Other than get it's shell handed to it, of course...
 
I'll have to say Krabby/Kingler. Ash probably could have defeated Mandi without it, although he would have had a challenge in the Whirl Cup. Since then, all it's done is been electrocuted by a bunch of Voltorb and had a few cameos at Oak's lab. Muk at least has the gimmick that it hugs everyone, even if it has gotten old.
 
I know I made many people mad, but the only Ash's Pokémon I have problem with were Aipom. In first, I was glad writers give this Johto Pokémon chance to shine, but as the plot progressed, I wish they never give Ash such unfitted Pokémon. Fortunately for me, writers fixed this when they traded Aipom to Dawn and I honestly hope Ash never gets her back.
I naver have problem with any other Ash's Pokémon. I only wish writers let Corphish evolve and finaly get Ash Dark-type Pokémon, but since writers obviously have some fear of Dark-type in main cast, that unfortunately never happens. But this is slightly off topic here.
 
Currently, Chimchar seems like a bad mistake. At least with Paul, it had some drive. Now just dicking around with Ash, what has it done?

And yes, Totodile and Cyndaquil. If all he was going to do was use Squirtle, Bulbasaur, and Charizard in the Johto League, then he shouldn't have captured new Pokemon at all.
 
Duckgon Z said:
Currently, Chimchar seems like a bad mistake. At least with Paul, it had some drive. Now just dicking around with Ash, what has it done?
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Drive? You mean getting defeated in every battle it's been in and not getting any characterization aside from that?

The main reason why they decided to give Chimchar to Ash was that with Paul, it wasn't getting much screen time due to Paul not appearing every episode. With Piplup and Turtwig hogging the spotlight all the time, Chimchar received the least showcasing before it became Ash's.

Also the fact that it was pretty much verbally abused it every time it was used.

There's much more to a Pokémon's character aside from it's battles. The writers attempt to show the Pokémon as individuals with personalities and how they can be developed.

That was one of the reasons why Primeape's carrer with Ash was so short. It was captured in the first place to show that Ash was now strong enough to capture tough Pokémon. After that capture, the writers had no idea what to do with it. Thus it was given away.
 
Duckgon Z said:
And yes, Totodile and Cyndaquil. If all he was going to do was use Squirtle, Bulbasaur, and Charizard in the Johto League, then he shouldn't have captured new Pokemon at all.
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I must pretty much disagree with you and others like you here. Yes, I know I will contradict myself, since I am against Ash starts new regions with Pikachu only, but still, for some reason, I think if Ash kept Charizard and Squirtle for whole, or at least most of, Johto saga, it would be even more boring then it actually was. I even wish Ash give Bulbasaur away before or right after he capture Chikorita, because, if nothing else, it give him chance to kept Haracross longer in his team.
And give Cyndaquil to Brock and Totodile to Misty as someone suggested? Aww, come on, they would be even more ignored than they actually were.
On the other hand, I really wish writers evolved Totodile and Cyndaquil at least once. But whatever...
 
I'm not really sure what the writers COULD have done with the Johto starters.

Let's face it, the first part of Johto came out when the Pokemon fad was just about ending. Charizard leaving caused a huge uproar, only because at the time we didn't know if it would be gone forever like Pidgeot or if Ash would ever use it again. Squirtle leaving was the same effect. I think Bulbasaur lasting as long is it did was the proof the writers hated having his original team leave.

Ash's original Kanto starters were really popular back then. Going from Charizard to Cyndaquil was really rough, just as it was going from Ash's cool Squirtle to a dancing Totodile. Noctowl could have been cool but it literally did mostly nothing for its entire run.

Does anyone else notice that the end of Johto was a return to Ash's Kanto Pokemon? Everything from Claire's Gym through the Johto league all focused on Ash's Kanto Pokemon. Its almost like the writers regret their decision of having the Kanto Pokemon leave that saga and the Johto team was casted aside.

When Hoenn was starting the writers just decided to dump the Johto team in one swell swoop because the writers didn't want to make the same mistake again.
 
Glalie. Had Snorunt not evolved as quickly as it did, it probably would have been around longer for DP. Ash (or Dawn, rather) wouldn't have Aipom/Ambipom and Ash would have eventually had his Snorunt evolve into a Froslass, which would have made me like the little guy more.

But poor Snorunt. Little screentime, happy attitude and it goes and evolves into....THAT....

I wonder what would have happened if his whole Kanto Team, bar Pikachu, was dumped for Johto like Hoenn and Sinnoh? No Charizard, no Bulbasaur, no Squirtle. Just the Johto starters, Noctowl, Heracross and Phanpy.

Stuff that goes on today with DP really makes you wonder, huh?
 
Scott85 said:
Does anyone else notice that the end of Johto was a return to Ash's Kanto Pokemon? Everything from Claire's Gym through the Johto league all focused on Ash's Kanto Pokemon. Its almost like the writers regret their decision of having the Kanto Pokemon leave that saga and the Johto team was cast aside.
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Heck, I'd say that it started as early as Price's Gym. Lets face it; if he hadn't thrown in the towel, Ash would never have won that badge. That was the first real sign that his Johto Team was really struggling when it came to strength and battle skills. Claire's Gym just cemented that, wth Ash doing spectacularily badly the first time around and having to rely on Snorlax and Charizard, his two strongest Pokemon at the time, to just scrape out the win.
 
^I like "jason" personally.

I would have to say Torkoal first off because it's painfully obvious Ash could've cleared hoenn without it, it was knocked out in almost every battle it was put in and no "nearly" beating Registeel does not redeem it, because any trained pokemon can hit a legendary, taking it down is another story.


Right now though Chimchar's not looking to good either, and i'm starting to think maybe it should've stayed on paul, I also wonder why they gave Ash turtwig while giving Paul torterra, because it makes turtwig's presense rather pointless.
 
Matkin22 said:
Heck, I'd say that it started as early as Price's Gym. Lets face it; if he hadn't thrown in the towel, Ash would never have won that badge. That was the first real sign that his Johto Team was really struggling when it came to strength and battle skills. Claire's Gym just cemented that, wth Ash doing spectacularily badly the first time around and having to rely on Snorlax and Charizard, his two strongest Pokemon at the time, to just scrape out the win.
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True, to be honest look at how much better Ash's team was at the beginning of Johto:

Pikachu
Bulbasaur
Squirtle
Charizard
Heracross

Then at the end of Johto he has:

Pikachu
Bayleef
Totodile
Cyndaquil
Noctowl
Phanpy

Honestly, it felt like such a downgrade as Johto went on. If Battle Frontier didn't bring back Phanpy and evolve it into Donphan, it probably would have been forgotten about too.
 
PDL said:
Drive? You mean getting defeated in every battle it's been in and not getting any characterization aside from that?

The main reason why they decided to give Chimchar to Ash was that with Paul, it wasn't getting much screen time due to Paul not appearing every episode. With Piplup and Turtwig hogging the spotlight all the time, Chimchar received the least showcasing before it became Ash's.

Also the fact that it was pretty much verbally abused it every time it was used.

There's much more to a Pokémon's character aside from it's battles. The writers attempt to show the Pokémon as individuals with personalities and how they can be developed.
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I know that, but I'm sick of waiting for it to be developed. They could still develop it and still make it an interesting battler. They could have gave it something in Veilstone, but Buizel took that away from it. And Paul's appeared a lot more frequently since the tag battle arc, I still think he would have been fine with Paul, since it wasn't like what Paul was doing was illegal or anything.
 
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