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At Mozz's polite request, I decided to not interfere with the "So Now What?" topic and start a new one. So the question for this particular debate is who do you think should run for President of United States in 2008? Is it someone obvious and well-known (Clinton, Obama, or Edwards on the Democratic side or McCain, Jeb Bush, or George Allen on the Republican side) or perhaps someone who is not so well known and might be able to really be a great leader.

Edit: Pardon me on deleting my post in the "So Now What?" topic, it's kind of a bad habit I have.
 
You know, I wouldn't mind a female president for once (Hillary Clinton being likely) we need a female touch here.......................................

IN AMERICA!
 
A bit of a shame, but Mark Warner is not running. He would have been a WONDERFUL president, I say, but I can't fault his reasoning for not running. He's enjoying his life as it is. Can't fault a man for not wanting to screw up his currently pleasant life to be a politician.

- Trip
 
Please no Sillary "Bimbo" Clinton, there are far better choices amough Democrat females.
 
Why do we actually have to have a woman? Being a woman makes her no more qualified than being a man and voting for someone soley because they are a woman is a huge mistake. I'll only vote for a woman if she is actually good.


My predictions, are That Joe Biden will face Mitt Romney. Yep, thats my predictions. I think that the majority of the Republican party wont vote for McCain, and Julianni(Sp?) is too left wing for a Republican nomination. Now, if he comprimises, maybe he stands a better chance. But I see it being Mitt Romney vs. Joe Biden. I aint gonna say who will win, because I think its way to early. SO much can happen in two years. I do not think that Hillary has a chance, Gore is possible but I dont think so. Kerry is out man. The reason I dont think Hillary has a chance is because I dont think she really has the support of her own party. Mitt Romney would be the best person the Republicans can nominate.
 
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Giuliani.

ShowCreator said:
Why do we actually have to have a woman?
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I don't think we "have" to, it's just that it would be seen as a little more progressive because for a while, women were pressed, if not outright forced, to stay home and not take jobs, particularly political jobs (though we have now had women in the Supreme Court, Congress [since 1917, apparently], and the presidential cabinet), and especially not as the elected head of this country.

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Being a woman makes her no more qualified than being a man and voting for someone soley because they are a woman is a huge mistake. I'll only vote for a woman if she is actually good.
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Same here, but no doubt there are people who wouldn't vote for her on the sole basis of her being a woman....
 
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Trust me, I wouldnt vote for Hillary Clinton, even if she was a man. Trust me, Hillary Clinton being a woman has no bearing on my vote for her.
 
I'd vote for Clinton. She's better than the idiot who's in charge now!
 
Unless something major happens in the next two years, Hillary will probably be the Democratic nominee, which itself is perfect because it removes the undecided factor out of the election (who's undecided on Hillary?). On the Republican side, McCain and Romney really shine out, with McCain having the problem of being seen as a moderate and Romney perhaps experiencing prejudice for being a Mormon.

But we've got two whole years to worry about this, and a lot can change then.
 
If it comes down to Hilary v. McCain, I'll vote for McCain.
Nominating Hilary would be the equivalent of the Democratic Party shooting itself in the foot.
Edwards is the most viable Democratic candidate, as Obama isn't ready, and only the media is serious about him.
My predictions, are That Joe Biden will face Mitt Romney. Yep, thats my predictions. I think that the majority of the Republican party wont vote for McCain, and Julianni(Sp?) is too left wing for a Republican nomination. Now, if he comprimises, maybe he stands a better chance. But I see it being Mitt Romney vs. Joe Biden. I aint gonna say who will win, because I think its way to early. SO much can happen in two years. I do not think that Hillary has a chance, Gore is possible but I dont think so. Kerry is out man. The reason I dont think Hillary has a chance is because I dont think she really has the support of her own party. Mitt Romney would be the best person the Republicans can nominate.
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McCain vs. Edwards are mine.
Gore has said he won't run, and he isn't changing his mind. His political career is over, and he's quite happy in his new gig as Public Global Warming Educator.
Unless you have some sort of information I don't, your predictions look pretty absurd.
If, and only if, the Republicans feel like going farther right, Frist may be their candidate, which would mean anybody the Democrats put up would be a shoe-in. Romney would only emerge as a serious candidate if the in-fighting among the Republican factions got really bad.
 
You know what would be really pitiful? If it was between a black man and a white woman, and Nader got a sizable part of the votes.

Anyways, I think Hilary might run in 2008, it seems she has a strong case to do so. I'd love to see George Allen run and get beaten again. "Macaca" damaged his presidential campaign if he has one. Plus, it's on Youtube, so every teen is going to influence their parent's decision.
 
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You know what would be really pitiful? If it was between a black man and a white woman, and Nader got a sizable part of the votes.

Anyways, I think Hilary might run in 2008, it seems she has a strong case to do so. I'd love to see George Allen run and get beaten again. "Macaca" damaged his presidential campaign if he has one. Plus, it's on Youtube, so every teen is going to influence their parent's decision.
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Lol, first off I doubt most teens on YouTube are looking for the macaca video, and second I doubt that teens have a whole lot of influence on their parents' decisions in general.
 
Teens weren't watching the Macaca video, adults were because they heard from a friend of a friend. And Macaca was just the beginning of Allen's problems. The man's a thug and Macaca is the least of his sins.

Hillary is too much of a lightning rod for bad press. And she gives too many reasons for Democrats NOT to vote for her. She'll never be president.

McCain stands a chance of taking the Republican ticket. However, he gives Republicans and Democrats reasons to not vote for him. He'd be hard pressed to be elected President once all his stances come into the light unless the Democrats choice a piss poor candidate.
 
Democrats would be stupid to nominate another senator, because the Republican and Rove spin machine would scour his/her voting record for everything that can be misconstrued (such as, "He voted against the troops!" when it isn't that simple). A governor would be a better choice. I like [wp]Bill Richardson[/wp].

Word is John Kerry is considering running again. If the Democrats nominate him after what happened in 2004, I will lose all faith in the party and officially declare myself an independent.
 
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Democrats would be stupid to nominate another senator, because the Republican and Rove spin machine would scour his/her voting record for everything that can be misconstrued (such as, "He voted against the troops!" when it isn't that simple). A governor would be a better choice. I like [wp]Bill Richardson[/wp].
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Rove is done. Rove was a flash in a ban. He used a tactic that worked wonders in the short term but would ultimately destroy the Republican party's ability to keep a majority. Now that that's happened expect him to fade away.
Word is John Kerry is considering running again. If the Democrats nominate him after what happened in 2004, I will lose all faith in the party and officially declare myself an independent.
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I agree. The Northeast doesn't make Presidents. I'm personaly hoping for a nominee out of the midwest.
 
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Rove is done. Rove was a flash in a ban. He used a tactic that worked wonders in the short term but would ultimately destroy the Republican party's ability to keep a majority. Now that that's happened expect him to fade away.

Well, Rovian politics (hey, if he gets a brand of politics named after him he has some legacy) is more effective at keeping a majority, not digging out of a hole. I doubt he'll just disappear, since he's still got a great deal of experience. He's definitely lost a lot of credibility; before the election one pundit said that if Rove could win the election he'd be a genius studied for decades, but if not then he'd be seen as a major failure.

I agree. The Northeast doesn't make Presidents. I'm personaly hoping for a nominee out of the midwest.
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A Midwestern candidate probably wouldn't be as polarizing, though I think that they should pair him with a Southern Democrat so as to attract moderate independents (the leftist base will vote for them anyway). As long as they don't repeat Rove's mistake and nominate a very liberal candidate, they'll do pretty well in 2008.
 
I have to agree there. That's why I see Edwards as at least someone's running mate.
 
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