Putting your thoughts in words- does it ever work completely?

[Aladar]

I know this is a strange question, but bear with me. Do you think it is possible for a writer to truly, completely and utterly word everything he is thinking, feeling and seeing when writing? I've always strived to try but no matter what words and sentences I try to think of, even in my native language, I never can put on the paper what I really trully want.

Then again, maybe that's the problem- whenever I think of writing or write something, in my head I see it as a movie or anime or something, and while it would seemingly be perfect if being part of such media, I can't actually describe all the small and significant details a single frame could describe.

Your thoughts?

 

[Heart and Soul]

I completley agree. My brother resently had to post a song audition in a Roleplay (It was a classical version of "Poker face" by Lady Gaga, but I digress...)

The song was amazing and, try as he might, he couldn't convay the true beauty of the music in words. He was forced to post a link to the song.

It's very infuriating.

 

[Outcast]

No one can ever make or put down on paper their original thought, the thing they make is never equal to what they are thinking. Well that is what I think.

 

[Captain GIROG]

Hmm... Let me try that. I'll do the song (We Are) Happy Landfill by Gorillaz.

The main trick this song pulls is having a background of random horns and clicking. Foghorns, tin horns, brass horns, car horns, all of which sound old and worn. A harmonica even makes its way in there. This makes the song sound junky and clunky, which is exentuated by the gritty, loud vocals. Combine this with the the constant steady drums and ceaseless, distorted bass, and you have a very strange, yet very catchy, instrumental section. Damon Albarn sings this and lets himself yell. He keeps his voice barely under control, which gives the vocals a catchy, gritty and trashy sound. It fits perfectly with the insane vocals. Every now and then you hear the sound of a radio being tuned randomly. This sounds like a happy landfill. The whole song sounds gritty and rusty, and the dissonance is perfectly consonant. It's a crazy, well controlled soundfest.
This song is just right. It's not too insane, but the sanity is very limited.


Amidoinitrite?

 

[Legacy]

I don't know that it's actually possible to become perfect at this, but those who come the closest are probably the best writers.

It's the striving for perfection that makes writing awesome!

 

[Joshawott]

Human thoughts and feelings are completely parallel to literature.

Human thoughts and feelings are raw and powerful; we cannot control them - they control us. We cannot control when they appear, they do that by themselves.

In literature, authors will try and take that which we think and feel and force them into submission, so that the wielder of the pen can control them; which in turn destroys the naturalism. Literature is there to transcend normal life: To live what cannot be lived, and to control what cannot be controlled.

 

[Giratina!]

No, I don't think this is possible. We may think someone is really darn good at doing something like this, but for all we know our vision of what is going on can be totally skewed from their vision of what is going on. We can try and put down what we feel is happening to our best ability, but honestly we have no idea if our readers are imagining it in an entirely different way than we are... and if they see it differently, then theoretically we are doing it wrong and are not good at it. If we try to pile in sixty small details, then the entirely feeling of the scene is lost under a mountain of elaborations of what brands of perfume the characters use. So no, I think the best we can do is put down what we see and hope that it doesn't break others' brains.

...I probably missed the point of the thread entirely. XD

 

[Ino-Chan]

Not possible. Especially just random things that you may think of. It may get a lot of what you think, but not all of it.

 

[Zekurom]

Definitely not. It's like trying to actually fully describe a picture in a thousand words - never works a hundred percent.

 

[Kayi Rowling]

Not really... unless your thoughts and feelings are truly that simple.

And, this might be weird, but I write better in English than in Spanish. Sometimes, one language is better for expressing some things than another... and, unfortunately, English is that for me.

Regardless, all languages are pretty limited; they're as flawed as their creators, and what we want to describe is often far beyond. How sad, really...

 

[Aladar]

Not really... unless your thoughts and feelings are truly that simple.

And, this might be weird, but I write better in English than in Spanish. Sometimes, one language is better for expressing some things than another... and, unfortunately, English is that for me.

Regardless, all languages are pretty limited; they're as flawed as their creators, and what we want to describe is often far beyond. How sad, really...

Yeah, interesting thought there- although my native language vocabulary is waaay better than my English one, I kinda feel I'm writing it right when I'm writing it in English. And I've discovered that I can express myself way more freely in English, too.

Strange as it is, I think that kinda works like the True Language in fantasy works. Your native language is your True Language and telling lies in it or telling something whatever it is, feels real and attached to you- you have a conection to the language. But with a foreign language you don't feel this sort of attatchment, so you can express yourself more freely in it.

That didn't make any sense, right?

 

[Kayi Rowling]

Yeah, interesting thought there- although my native language vocabulary is waaay better than my English one, I kinda feel I'm writing it right when I'm writing it in English. And I've discovered that I can express myself way more freely in English, too.

Strange as it is, I think that kinda works like the True Language in fantasy works. Your native language is your True Language and telling lies in it or telling something whatever it is, feels real and attached to you- you have a conection to the language. But with a foreign language you don't feel this sort of attatchment, so you can express yourself more freely in it.

That didn't make any sense, right?

No, it did make sense. Then again, my thought process is... different :sweatlol:

Also, I believe English as a language evolved into what we know nowadays because of literary works and such. It would make sense we find it easier to express some things in a specialized language... And, to be honest, I just love how many ways to say "he/she smiled" exist :ksmile:

The no-attachments thing... I think I once had that idea in my mind too, but I don't remember; it's an oddly familiar thought. Either way, I've been told, with all certainty, that the reason some people use foreign curse words is because they don't have the same weight for them, if they have one at all. It might be related...

 

[Aladar]

Well, that can kinda-sorta explains why I feel bad cussing in my language but I can cuss like a sailor in English... xD

 

[Kayi Rowling]

Well, that can kinda-sorta explains why I feel bad cussing in my language but I can cuss like a sailor in English... xD

I'm surprised you hadn't figured it out with your previous post :XD2:

 

[Der_Neuevenmenschen]

One word. Impossible.

It is impossible to truly put your thoughts into words. As you write, what you put down may actually deviate slowly from what you were aiming to create, and no matter how masterfully you write something, that description you put down on the internet or on paper will be more or less a little off from what you had in your head. The best thing to do is to try and make what you write as good as possible, even if it isn't exactly what you wanted to make, because it is impossible to put the things you imagined into words, without getting something slightly or majorly different.