Releases = Writer's Happiness?

[Mr. Bicurious]

Hello, I'm new here, but this has been on my mind for a while now.

I'm not complaining about all the releases we've had, and I'm sure that we've all asked the question why the writers did them, because clearly, most if not all the fans wouldn't.

With Brock, he never did release anyone but Vulpix,& the majority of his Pokemon are with his family, or at the Gym.

I wonder if Misty or May ever came back, yes I am well aware of the Japanese interview involving Misty's place on the show, but you never know what the future holds.

Would the writers give away some of their pokemon like candy to their siblings?

Releases prove that trainers may stay stagnate for a while, until a new move or member of their party came along.

I'm just saying if the writer's wanted to ever give Munchlax to Max, and some of Misty's Pokemon to her sisters permanently to make it easier on them, as far as money it wouldn't sit well with me.

I'm not saying the writers do releases to make us suffer, I just think they do it because it's almost like a cop out. They're not dumb, they just want to make it easy.

Gliscor and Ambipom were very idiotic, however. But who knows, they may return.

 

[Sapphire Insanity]

That's an interesting idea, I've never thought of it like that before. It is fairly common, though; back in Kanto they did the same thing with Primeape and, sort of, Butterfree. If you asked any of the writers, though, they'd probably say that the release of the Pokemon are good for the character's development or something similar

 

[Nevando]

Here's my big problem with releases:

Scene: Primeape just WINS the P-1 Grand Prix, or whatever it's called

"I'll make your Primeape a REAL P-1 champ!"

Real response: "Uh, he WON the P-1. He IS the P-1 champion."

What actually happened: "DUR OK."

Some of the "Releases," kind of make sense, like James leaving Chingling because it was sick [which wasn't a real release], but I'm pretty sure Ash should have been more pissed when Dawn let HIS former Aipom go. And what a pickyass that Ambipom was, anyway. First it wanted to be with Dawn to do contests over battles, THEN it wants to ping pong. Jeeze.

 

[Usagi-Zakura]

I have a problem with Aipom too...
She was the only one of Ash's Pokèmon (aside Pikachu) who refused to stay behind when he went to Sinnoh.... next thing we know he trades her away so she can do contest and then leaves Ash and Dawn altogether for Ping Pong... It makes no sense...
Its almost as if Pikachu one day decided "hey! I wanna go rollerskating!" and leaves the party for that.

I also hated that James gave away Cacnea because it couldn't do that one move, and then spent the next episode moping about it.

Logic doesn't always apply to this anime.

 

[Mr. Bicurious]

True, it sucks however, the Pokemon that are released, have great potential and/or have already used a lot of it to great lengths already.

Ambipom and Gliscor both were established pretty nicely and had a very lovable and appreciative fanbase.

I don't want this to turn into a thread complaining about releases or give aways. However, I just wanted to see what and how others would feel if, situations like:

Misty giving 4 of her 10 pokemon to her sisters permanently or May giving her Munchlax to Max as his starter.

I am well aware Misty and May aren't with us currently, but they don't deserved to be ignored, especially by the fanbase.

 

[hhhhdmt]

what Japense interview regarding Misty are you talking about?

 

[Kojiro]

The writes loved this. i won't be surprised if Buizel is gonna leave

 

[Iteru]

what Japense interview regarding Misty are you talking about?

I believe that they mean this one:

http://pokebeach.com/2008/07/interview-with-masamitsu-hidaka-at-anime-expo


I really wouldn't care if Kasumi gave her pokes away because none of them really gained my interest.

Nor do I care for Masato(that is his name right?) as I have always found him to be boring. I doubt he will ever have a significant role again anyway, so I couldn't care less about his team.

I do mind releases if the poke belongs to a current member of the twerps however. The writer's should just stick with the pokes that they decided to give to the current main characters, if they believe that they are mistakes then they should just learn from them for the next saga.

 

[hhhhdmt]

well thanks for the link. AS a fan of Misty, i am very disappointed to know that she will never return as a main character, if its true. I hope its not though i know its oikely she wont permenantly retire.

 

[pokemon fan 132]

Well i wouldnt say writers look at these things from that point of view.Sure some pokemon releases from major characters can sometimes be bugging,seeming unlogical and out of blue(like Gliscor) but they probably had reasons for this.Perhaps by releasing them they want to open way for new pokemon to enter into main characters teams,or they wanted to spice things up a bit doing something unpredictable.

In any case,we cant know for sure if they have some plans with them later on in future.

well thanks for the link. AS a fan of Misty, i am very disappointed to know that she will never return as a main character, if its true. I hope its not though i know its oikely she wont permenantly retire.

I know what you mean.Misty is great character and my favorite one,and its a shame that someone who was part of original trio is ignored so much from writers side in these days.
However you can be sure,that she is guaranteed at very least to continue appearing,never being forgotten.

About that interview with mr.Hidaka(ex main director,now storyboard artist) and Mistys future in this show,well you could say im one of those who didnt take everything he said as "set in stone",having hope for this.
What im trying to say is that i wouldnt completely rule out posibillity of her being part of cast again.
From anime standpoint reasons for return exist,considering how her story was left unfinished(like her goal,not knowing enough about her etc) with lot of material left to work with.

And even though chances fo this are extremely unlikely,writers could change their mind(though this happened only once in Brocks case),deciding to use this option.

In other words things change,with new people coming working for this show(reffering to director and head writer for this show stepping out of their positions being replaced by new people),and future can be unpredictable with thse things.

 

[Trainer Yusuf]

The writes loved this. i won't be surprised if Buizel is gonna leave

He is Ash's main water Pokémon. He had proven himself a lot. Writers don't give a shit to Kingler and Totodile. Corpish and Squirtle don't advertise Diamond, Pearl and Platinum. The end.

 

[podin]

About that interview with mr.Hidaka(ex main director,now storyboard artist) and Mistys future in this show,well you could say im one of those who didnt take everything he said as "set in stone",having hope for this.
What im trying to say is that i wouldnt completely rule out posibillity of her being part of cast again.
From anime standpoint reasons for return exist,considering how her story was left unfinished(like her goal,not knowing enough about her etc) with lot of material left to work with.

You forgot to mention that she left for a stupid reason out of obligation due to her sisters' incompetence, she would bring to
the show that chemistry between the protagonists known from first 3 sagas thank to her temper, and she could participate in
competitions like pokethlon or whirl cup as she is sport-oriented person

Spoiler

Peace

 

[Aladar]

Releases open new spots for new Pokemon and thus more advertising. It's pretty simple IMO. Crappy, but simple.

 

[Grave-E]

I love how, even in a thread about pokemon releases, it somehow resulted in yet another upbringing of Misty. In the immortal words of Tom Binns: 'Bor-Ing'.


Anyway, stuff like releases and captures probably always have the general basis of marketing and such to justify them happening, but you've got to wonder if the writers and animators ever regret having to go through with it. Many of the pokemon written off seem like the types that would be pretty fun to write for or illustrate. Or conversly, maybe that's why we see unusual amounts of certain pokemon. Perhaps at some point they were having a lot of fun with Buoysel, but eventually got bored with him.
I kind of wish we could learn more about these guys opinions of the pokemon themselves rather than the humans, just to shed some light on how much influence they have on who shows up when or how often.

 

[hhhhdmt]

yeah its definately because of adverstising the games. I used to play the games and was very good at them but i do wish the games and the anime were not interlinked so we wouldnt have to do through all these releases.

As for Tododile, it may come back if Ash goes back to Johto. Though personally id like Kingler on Ashs team to travel with him. I know Kingler travelling with Ash is very unlikely but hey ya never know.

 

[Trainer'sInsomnia]

I would guess that it happens for three main reasons...

1. To advertise more Pokemon. Swapping out the old means more room for the new, thus people are given better looks at some interesting Pokemon.

2. To keep things interesting. We want to be surprised every now and then. Releases feel like their way of a plot twist to start a buzz, because directly following it, everyone's always like, "Which one will they get next?" You notice no one ever really makes the assumption that Ash will pull a Pokemon out of storage.

3. To make it easier, which especially justifies reasons 1 and 2 as to why they are released rather than kept in storage. It no longer makes the Pokemon a worry for the writers, and it's sort of like cleaning their plate a bit.

 

[Mijzelffan]

no, they just need another party slot.

 

[Cybersai]

Back in the first season it was done because the writers had no clue what to do with most of them. Releasing Primeape after 2 episodes? Lol, what?

The releases back then never made sense, aside from Lapras I suppose. I believe Gliscor will return for the league, but as for Ambipom I agree it was just bad writing as Dawn didn't even have a full team of 6. I'm not too concerned about Ambi though, it never seemed like the writers knew what to do with it.

 

[V Faction]

Yeah, let's be honest here, Ambipom was one of the wildest Pokemon ever to break into the scene.

A Johto Pokemon caught for the AG series in Kanto during the Battle Frontier. A Normal-type monkey that accompanied Ash along with Pikachu to Sinnoh, a new region, over anyone else. Had an interest in Contests, participated in a few, eventually got traded to Dawn (an official trade, the second ever on the team), learned one new move which prompted its evolution. Then at the end they decide to release it so it can do ping-pong.

To this day, I really don't know how to classify Ambipom. You look at a Pokemon like Charizard who is A) a Kanto Pokemon B) belonging to Ash that C) was caught in Kanto and D) evolved in Kanto who E) got used in the Kanto League and is still F) considered to be Ash's. Ambipom is all over the place. It's actually quite commendable when you take a look back at how it broke a lot of traditional patterns.

 

[CynthiaLover]

I personally do not like all these releases. Sure, it probably opens up new possibilites and such, but some can be down-right wrenching. I remember back when Butterfree was released. I was so upset. Sure, there was a good reason for it, the whole mating thing, but it still hurt. Another release I hated was Pidgeot. Ash says he'll come back for it, but that is highly unlikely. Again, he sorta had a good reason, but not good enough to just totally forget about it.

I really don't think these releases are any good. Sure, some have good reasons, like Lapras, but others are kinda ridiculous, like Primape. I'm glad that after the Johto saga, Ash stopped releasing his Pokemon (for the most part). I really hated poor James giving up Cacnea, that was really painful. Although some I feel were necessary, like Ambipom, since she was all over the place, but ones like Gliscor were a little painful. Yes, I liked Gliscor. I know the reason for it was so it could learn how to fly better, and that's good considering that Gliscor crashed into about everything on a routine basis (including Ash). I hope that Gliscor does come back, it was fun one.

But all these releases are getting a little annoying. Its true that Ash can call upon some of them, like Squirtle and Charizard, but I would like to see the writers stop tossing out perfectly good Pokemon to make way for others. Sure, I'm not totally complaining about Gliscor being replaced with Gible, as it's a first in Pokemon anime history, but they could stop it. Ambipom is probably one of my exceptions, because I really couldn't figure out what she wanted in the first place. First to be with Ash, then Contests, then to Dawn, then finally to Ping Pong. MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!

So, I dunno how to calculate the writer's happiness into releases, but I do wish they'd cut it out. At this rate, the main cast won't have any Pokemon left! Sure, it's for plot development and such, but give me a break, will ya? Just pick a team and stick with it! I just hope that there are no more releases, especially if they get as emotional as James/Cacnea or Ash/Butterfree.