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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7886779.stm?lss

"The final results of Israel's general election have confirmed that neither of the two main parties can form a government on its own.
With military and overseas ballots counted, the governing Kadima still has 28 seats and the opposition Likud has 27 - well short of the 61 they need."

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Well this has been quite the development. For it shows that the Ultra-Nationalist/Conservative Beiteinu Party becomes the "King-Maker" in here since whomever the party supports in the new coalition would certainly push Israel to a Conservative path, therefore making President Obama's attempts at Arab-Israeli peace much harder. =/
 
Unless Kadima and Likud decides to ally. Which may not happen at all.

Great, just great. What Israel needed: their far-right in power.
 
I voted for Meretz. Which helped SO MUCH. They only lost two seats! *facepalm*

Kadima and Likud would sooner go for elections again than agree to ally with each other. Frankly, I don't envy President Peres at all. He's the one who has to pick whether Netanyahu or Livni will put a government together, and his decision will be unpopular no matter which one he chooses.

I'm really pissed about Yisrael Beiteinu and their jerkward of a fascist party leader, Lieberman, getting so many seats. At this rate he'll be prime minister, and then what? I'm seeing a dictatorship. And at the same time, I think he likes seeing Netanyahu and Livni squirming and begging him to sit in their government. He's like a real-life troll.

I wanted to get the hell out of here before and I want to get out of here even more now. Leftists have no place in here.
 
(both eyebrows shooting upward) Hello. So Benjamin Netanyahu may very well become the next Prime Minister of Israel? I may be much more confident in Netanyahu's foresight against Iran, and in fact, Netanyahu's warnings about Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's apocalypticism remind me of... Winston Churchill's warnings regarding the Bolsheviks in Russia and the Nazis in Germany.:

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=318124812294149
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=302397178250595
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=317865483225073
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30628
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed101708e.cfm

We may think that this Arab-Israeli conflict is a strictly local problem, but Ahmadinejad's vision of "A World Without America" might dispel such a way of thinking. I can admire and applaud Netanyahu's determination that peace comes from strength, so that in addition to Israel, Europe and America will hold the line against the darkness brewing in Tehran.
 
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Everyone's a bad guy. The last good guy was assassinated in 1995.

C7CACorncas12, you seriously make me sad. Netanyahu was one of the two worst Prime Ministers Israel has ever had and continued on to become an even worse Minister of Finance. Ehud Barak wasn't a big hit as Prime Minister either (he's the other worst Prime Minister, no one can ever decide which one sucked more), but at least he was somewhat competent as the Minister of Defense.
 
Mystic Syaoran said:
So who are the good guys and who are the bad guys?
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Israel is facing people -- or, I might say, monsters -- who celebrate death over life, going so far as to deliberately hide weapons in civilian areas. Hezbollah is to the north in Lebanon, and Hamas is to the south in Gaza, but since both terror groups get their money and weapons from Iran, I would figure that the real villain in this conflict is Iran. Ironically enough, even Egypt and Saudi Arabia appear to fear Iran's increasing power, even if both countries have authoritarian regimes. Events in the Middle East may be about to get a little more interesting with Benjamin Netanyahu in command in Israel.
 
Hey now, I wouldn't go as far to call Hamas monsters. I don't agree with ANYTHING they do and I think their disregard for human life is revolting, but I don't call humans monsters.

Especially since we're not the good guys either. There are no good guys in this story.

My god, Obama and co. are going to hate us so much until this flimsy government will collapse.
 
Snake Bandage said:
My god, Obama and co. are going to hate us so much until this flimsy government will collapse.
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Maybe, or maybe not. The Wall Street Journal's Bret Stephens conducted an interview with Netanyahu in which Netanyahu mentioned meeting with Barack Obama about Iran. I was struck that Netanyahu told Obama that the goal is more important than the method. In other words, if President Obama does conduct direct talks with Iran's Supreme Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and those talks fail -- and I have a basic reason to opine that they will -- then Prime Minister Netanyahu will have to make the decision for Israel to launch its own strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities, if to buy more time for America and its allies to pressure Iran into surrendering its nuclear agenda.
 
C7CACorncas12 said:
Maybe, or maybe not. The Wall Street Journal's Bret Stephens conducted an interview with Netanyahu in which Netanyahu mentioned meeting with Barack Obama about Iran. I was struck that Netanyahu told Obama that the goal is more important than the method. In other words, if President Obama does conduct direct talks with Iran's Supreme Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and those talks fail -- and I have a basic reason to opine that they will -- then Prime Minister Netanyahu will have to make the decision for Israel to launch its own strikes against Iran's nuclear facilities, if to buy more time for America and its allies to pressure Iran into surrendering its nuclear agenda.
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Why is that I can't stop hearing about Iran's "nuclear agenda" when, so far, they've just built nuclear reactors, and yet when North Korea's blatantly threatening to nuke the US and Japan (and actually HAVE operational nukes)...no one gives a crap?
 
Just please tell me what the hell does Iran have to do with anything. We have our own freaking problems to deal with first.
 
But Iran is the source of all evil!

Clear evidence shows global warming, the financial crisis and the extinction of the dinosaurs ALL are Iranian plots!

(...granted, Hamas is, IIRC, kind of getting Iran support here and there)
 
I know Iran gives Hamas support, it gives support to any organization dedicated to decimating our asses. But we're a tiny country and have enough on our heads without trying to challenge Iran. They're a bigger threat than we can handle. Much bigger nations are as concerned about Iran as we are, and they can try to reason with them.
 
Am I wrong in thinking that they'd have more of a reason to having that mindset if an ultraconservative government gains power?


You know, I wonder, why do ultraconservative governments hate each other, when they're the same damn thing for a different group of people?


I just hope it doesn't screw up everything even after the fact that we got rid of the far-right stupidity here. Seriously, though, what bonuses do people see in voting for people that far over on the political spectrum? It's a proven disaster in every instance.
 
Ultraconservative governments gain and maintain power on hate and fear (just look at the Bush administration and McCain campaign). So, they hate and fear everyone not them.
 
This conflict will never end, between the Palestinians and Israelis. I don't see any long term peace in our time. All I see is bloodshed and constant hate of each other.
 
Which is exactly why I don't want to live here anymore. I don't want my hypothetical kids to know what war is to the extent that I do.
 
You may not need to take my word for the battle between freedom and submission in the Middle East. The Hamas Charter itself states the reasons for Hamas' hatred of Israel, not to mention its basic connection to the Muslim Brotherhood -- a connection that Iran may be trying to utilize to advance its ultimate plan. We look at the news cameras and see Palestinians shouting, "Death to America! Death to Israel!", and launching rockets into Israel, but there might be something more behind those shouts and rocket attacks. In the case of North Korea, there may very well have been something much bigger to its nefarious plans, given the nuclear proliferation network established by one Abdul-Qadeer Khan. Think of this battle as one giant puzzle, in the sense that while Hamas and Hezbollah's attacks on Israel fit in one section, the Iran-Pakistan-North Korea nuclear nexus fits in another. It's ugly, terrible, and dramatic, but thankfully, people like Benjamin Netanyahu should possess the clarity to ensure that freedom and truth triumph.
 
Why, of course.

Why, the CIA has documented evidence of the powerful Axis of Evil.

The Ayatollah of Iran:
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We suspect the result of North Korean experimentation, pursuing an agent of western forces:
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This is the Hamas's new security system to maintain 24/7 control on Gaza:
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I'm thinking of not reading C7CACorncas12's posts anymore. He keeps finding ways to push Iran in where it's not even the issue at hand and it's starting to feel like I walked into some topic about conspiracy theories.
 
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