"Rival Destinies" Opening Discussion Thread

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Discuss your thoughts on the "Pokemon Black & White: Rival Destinies" opening here.
 
I was surprised to see Unfezant and Skyla. Not even the raw has gotten there yet. I'm impressed that they were allowed to use footage that not even the Japanese have seen. The song itself is really bleh to me.
 
Great opening.

The lyrics and vocals were great, I think I might like them over the ones for the previous openings.

I enjoyed the clips from past and future episodes.

I wonder if that Stephan shot is for his next appearance, I don't remember that shot being from a previous episode, but I may be wrong.
 
So now we know that The Pokémon Company International receives episodes before they have even aired in Japan; as both Skyla and a female Unfezant appeared, despite Skyla's episode not airing in Japan until next week.

Also, the clips of the rivals at the end were from earlier episodes weren't they? I guess that means that either A) TPCi have yet to receive any episodes featuring the majority of them or B) They simply aren't appearing for a while. Considering how TPCi have an unknown Unfezant episode at least, it's hard to tell now T_T
 
It's pretty good. It makes me wonder, though, if any Pokemon theme song in English can have lyrics that DON'T contain the word "Pokemon" in them at all.
 
Is the singer male or female? or both as a "duet" like last OP was?
Nice that they got some new footage there, even if it's just scenes from upcoming eps and not really new footage created for the OP... at least there's something special to see there rather than just scenes from eps we already saw
And it's not surprising at all that they get eps before they air in Japan... that's like... extremely obvious... I won't be surprised if they initially got the Rocket/Plasma eps too, but that's for another thread...
 
It'd be nice if they, y'know, got some new material for their lyrics; they've been saying almost the exact same things since We Will be Heroes. I'd also like it if TPCi would stop shoehorning "Pokémon!" at the end of their songs. The background music's pretty good though.
 
Most of the clips from the opening were from the Kami trio episodes (BW059 and BW060), but we got a fair amount of clips from BW056, BW058, as well as the three or four episodes devoted to gym battles.

I'm just surprised that the TPCi actually featured clips from episodes that had not aired in Japan yet. I knew that TPCi received these episodes before they aired in Japan, but to think that they would blatantly feature clips from episodes that did not air anywhere yet. Wouldn't TPCi get in trouble by its parent company for doing this?

I hope that the clips in the opening change eventually like they did for the opening of the "Galactic Battles" season.
 
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Despite being a clip compilation it seems to all go together really well. I much prefer it to the 3D animation of the Best Wishes intro - even though I'm sure it would be better if they got some new animation done especially for the opening.

The intro feels shorter than Black and White did, despite them both being 30 seconds - not sure why that is. The song seems fairly catchy - I like it better than the TV length version of Black and White, but Black and White sounds quite good in its movie length version, hopefully we will get to hear more of the song before the next movie gets dubbed. Though the lyrics don't really fit with the name Rival Destinies though, as it just talks about friendship as all the other ones do.

The song certainly doesn't have the right mood to be a drop in replacement for the instrumental version of Best Wishes - it's bad enough they did that with Black and White, but it certainly isn't right here.

I've uploaded a clip here if you want to have a listen: Download Rd.mp3 - Kiwi6.com Mp3 Upload
 
The actual song's alright, but the fact that they just used episode clips is a bit annoying after what they've done with the last two openings. But the clips do work well together. I just hope that they'll change the opening once we get a new Japanese opening in Japan.
 
Color me surprised! I didn't expect to see Skyla at all! Still, I think the song's pretty decent.
 
Joshawott said:
Also, the clips of the rivals at the end were from earlier episodes weren't they? I guess that means that either A) TPCi have yet to receive any episodes featuring the majority of them or B) They simply aren't appearing for a while. Considering how TPCi have an unknown Unfezant episode at least, it's hard to tell now T_T
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I'd go with A and also, I'm pretty sure the Unfezant scene will be from Ash's gym battle against Skyla, since it seems like Tranquill will evolve in that episode.

Though, I hope that Stephan shot will be from the episode after the gym battle.
 
I like the animation in it better than last season. The 3D effects from last season's were a bit out of place in my opinion since it was the only opening like that. As for the song, I think it was pretty good. I'll have to hear it again to fully register it since it was pretty early when it came on this morning.
 
Amphraos King said:
I hope that the clips in the opening change eventually like they did for the opening of the "Galactic Battles" season.
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Don't count on TPCI changing the opening until Season 16. The only reason the DP Galactic Battles opening was changed was because the show switched over to HD and they didn't want to use the 4:3 footage anymore. Since the show doesn't have any more "upgrades" left to go through, TPCI has no reason to change the opening mid-season.

NintendoGamer said:
I just hope that they'll change the opening once we get a new Japanese opening in Japan.
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Other than DP Galactic Battles, which was a special case, the dub never changes openings mid-season unless Ash and his friends head to a new region. They're not going to start now.
 
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The transition between clips is awful but I really like the music.
 
I like that they did it a male/female duet again! It's nice... the animation is also kind of ok... I prefer that over the boring original BW OP, that's for sure... hopefully Japan will get a new OP soon too and make it more like the usual ones... (the earliest they'll change OP might be April, but October is probably more likely...)
 
if 4KIDS was still dubbing pokemon we would get a 1+ min better song :S.

I don't understand why they make a 30 sec opening themes they are toooooooo short and kind of useless
 
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