Shipping - Real or a myth?

[John Understands]

Except for OBVIOUS hints, Shipping may be your imaginations and may all be not true and a myth. I support Pokeshipping, just some Shippings are myths. I can't give an example. And when I say obvious hints, well, it means like Pokeshipping or something like that.

EDIT: This may get closed.

EDIT 2: Here are the parings -

PLAUSIBLE - If has hints or barely any or no hints, but met, then it's considered Plausible.

MYTHICAL - If has no hints and haven't met, then it's considered Mythical.

 

[Luna Tiger]

Not sure where you're going with this. Are you asking if shipping itself (as in, the entire concept) is real or mythical, are you asking about nevermets and couples with no hints whatsoever (but then what's the question?), or...something else?

There are pairs with hints, pairs with no hints, and pairs between people who have never met (but people support them anyway)....so....

Clarify.

 

[John Understands]

@Luna Tardor What I mean is, Shippings with no hints like Iris x Ash are considered to me, mythical, while Shippings with obvious hints, like Ash x Misty, are real to me. If they have no hints, then they are just a part of people's minds that think that will happen, but it is mythical if there are no hints.

 

[Itsuki]

By your definition, there are very few 'real' shippings. And I'm pretty sure most people know their pairings aren't canon.

 

[Likeitornot.]

Well, ships are theories of a Romance, in my opinion. Theories are perspectives. So, they're neither right nor wrong...

 

[John Understands]

By your definition, there are very few 'real' shippings. And I'm pretty sure most people know their pairings aren't canon.

Actually, yeah, now, to me, it's changed to:

REAL - If the shipping has hints or has barely any or no hints, then it's considered real.

MYTHICAL - If the shipping is for someone that has not met the other person, then it's considered mythical, to me.

 

[PokemonLotty]

I agree, I can only ship "real" shippings. I don't see the appeal in things that don't exist. I get the appeal of the idea of that shipping existing, but I don't get how you could obsess over something nonexistent. In example, ikarishipping; I think that's a really cool idea, it would've been really cool to watch romantic interactions between those two characters, but it's not real. Therefore, I don't ship it.

 

[Itsuki]

But that's the fun in it. :/ It allows you to get creative and come up with scenarios. Things like that are what fanfiction is for.

Most people know their ships aren't going to be canon, but they ship it anyway because it's fun and they like the idea. Pokemon is not a shoujo series. There will be no kissing, and no romance. Even Pokeshipping isn't going to happen, guys. Do a lot of people wish it would? Yes. Realistically, will it? Probably not.

So with the logic here, everyone might as well pack up and go home unless your big shipping is Norman and Caroline or something.

 

[Hurricane Kishore]

Well, in case of popular character, Some ship will be real while other will be myth
For example ,If Ash end up with Misty then Pokeshipping will be real While Advanceshipping & Pearlshipping will be myth
If Ash end up with May then Advanceshipping will be real While Pokeshipping & Pearlshipping will be myth
If Ash end up with Dawn then Pearlshipping will be real While Advanceshipping & Pokeshipping will be myth
It just as easy as this

 

[Itsuki]

....Guys. guys. It's Pokemon. A series made for kids. No one is going to end up with anyone except for characters of the day and parents. :/ There can be hints, sure, but I don't think anyone is going to end up with anyone. I don't think it's that kind of series. Not that that's a bad thing, but you're talking like Ash is definitely going to end up with someone. LOOK AT THE KID.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around what is so bad about your ship not being real. Like I said, it's Pokemon. You can't expect a pairing to happen, but it's fun to ship it.

 

[Heartilly]

I like shipping even if there are barely or no hints. I think that's part of the fun of it.

 

[John Understands]

@HilbertCressLover Yeah, that's actually the fun of shipping. By thinking of characters that should ship.

 

[TanktheAvengineer]

To put it in simplest form - shipping is in the eye of the beholder.
No opinion is right or wrong, as crafty shippers will find ways around even the toughest obstacles.

 

[Caseydia]

My definition of a ship in this place is a myth made up by mad genius show viewers who have nothing better to do.

But shipping is fun and since it's not canon, it makes it more tolerable. Do you imagine how boring it would be if there were actual couples on the show? Ash would have never traveled with a lot of people, Brock would have found someone by now, and Team Rocket wouldn't have been funny.

 

[Luna Tiger]

@Luna Tardor What I mean is, Shippings with no hints like Iris x Ash are considered to me, mythical, while Shippings with obvious hints, like Ash x Misty, are real to me. If they have no hints, then they are just a part of people's minds that think that will happen, but it is mythical if there are no hints.

Ooooookay, UM, "mythical" is probably something you do not want to be calling 'ships. Calling it mythical means it does not exist at all. That's not true in the least, because if you were to call my OTP mythical, well, it's awesome to mythic proportions, but you're sending out an incredibly negative vibe and pretty much saying it shouldn't exist, because it's fabricated by imagination. Which is true, but you're adding on extra and definitely unwanted reasoning.

So just because I 'ship nevermets, sir, I don't think they should be considered "mythical". Just say, "I don't support nevermet 'ships." Because that what everyone else has done in times before you.

And this "plausible" thing is ridiculous, because that's someone picking and choosing how to interpret canon interacts, which is what ALL 'shippers (Poke, Advance, Pearl, Negai, Coma, Pallet, Boulder, CafeMaocha, Pika, ETC) do. Every single one of us picks and chooses how to interpret different characters and how they fit together. You might think Pokeshipping is "real" and every other Ash/girl/boy/pogey 'ship is instead plausible. I simply think Bouldershipping is the best Ash 'ship. I don't think it's "real" (far from it), and I don't think it's plausible (kid's show), but it's certainly not "mythical", because it's got its own evidence. Simple thinking is best.

'Shipping is itself a belief system. Categorizing it is silly. Fighting over it is silly. Saying yours is "real" is silly. You either simply support it or you don't, and maybe you admit that another couple is more likely to happen or not. But regardless, thinking in terms, of real, plausible or (essentially) fake, that's not cool.

 

[Cybersai]

I think all the countless Skyla/Elesa fanart on Japanese sites is proof they can pair up whomever. I've never seen a girl on girl Gym leader pairing get so popular so fast.

 

[John Understands]

Ooooookay, UM, "mythical" is probably something you do not want to be calling 'ships. Calling it mythical means it does not exist at all. That's not true in the least, because if you were to call my OTP mythical, well, it's awesome to mythic proportions, but you're sending out an incredibly negative vibe and pretty much saying it shouldn't exist, because it's fabricated by imagination. Which is true, but you're adding on extra and definitely unwanted reasoning.
So just because I 'ship nevermets, sir, I don't think they should be considered "mythical". Just say, "I don't support nevermet 'ships." Because that what everyone else has done in times before you.

And this "plausible" thing is ridiculous, because that's someone picking and choosing how to interpret canon interacts, which is what ALL 'shippers (Poke, Advance, Pearl, Negai, Coma, Pallet, Boulder, CafeMaocha, Pika, ETC) do. Every single one of us picks and chooses how to interpret different characters and how they fit together. You might think Pokeshipping is "real" and every other Ash/girl/boy/pogey 'ship is instead plausible. I simply think Bouldershipping is the best Ash 'ship. I don't think it's "real" (far from it), and I don't think it's plausible (kid's show), but it's certainly not "mythical", because it's got its own evidence. Simple thinking is best.

'Shipping is itself a belief system. Categorizing it is silly. Fighting over it is silly. Saying yours is "real" is silly. You either simply support it or you don't, and maybe you admit that another couple is more likely to happen or not. But regardless, thinking in terms, of real, plausible or (essentially) fake, that's not cool.

I think you should read later. And, shipping is fine. Argh, I hate starting wars. Can I have a cookie?

Anyways, I was just saying that certain ships are never to happen because they never met.

 

[Itsuki]

I'm preeeeeetty sure the people who ship that stuff know that. No need to have to tell them again.

And sometimes, nevermets are debatable. Will/Morty (my previous OTP) for example. People tell me it's a nevermet, yeah. But they're in the same league, and one could easily assume that the gym leaders and elites have met. Sure they haven't met in canon, but it's not too far a stretch to say they HAVE met. That's the thing about Pokemon compared to other series; if characters haven't talked to each other, a lot of times there are ways they can, and its not out of the question.

Ain't shipping great?

 

[Prez]

I think you should read later. And, shipping is fine. Argh, I hate starting wars. Can I have a cookie?

Anyways, I was just saying that certain ships are never to happen because they never met.

Hey Hey Hey, there's still a chance they can meet~ I know there are really no nevermet ships on my list, but I wish I did, It seems really fun writing fanfictions about how they can meet Hmmmm, I gonna go look into some now :banana:

 

[Luna Tiger]

I think you should read later. And, shipping is fine. Argh, I hate starting wars. Can I have a cookie?

Anyways, I was just saying that certain ships are never to happen because they never met.

I read the entire thread; it's my job. I'm just pointing out 1) your terminology is flawed and provoking (which can lead to a fight), and 2) you still haven't given a clear example of what this thread is about. You threw out a bunch of terms no one has ever used before, and your poll sounds more like: "Is the ACT of shipping a myth" which is certainly a no, because shippers exist and they are on this thread.

So again, what is this thread about? You gave information. You never gave a question. (And no, "Is shipping real or is it a myth?" is not a proper question when you go on about 'ships themselves.) What are you asking?

Clarify again.

*hands you a cookie, too* Congrats. You've been baptized in the fires of this section.